Minneapolis / St. Paul News Blog

Darwin ftw.

Even a blank fired at point-blank range will often kill. Darwin wins again. Too bad teens are the biggest deniers of their own mortality :(

Those kids need mentoring! = http://bit.ly/BzXpt

"Teenager shot dead after Russian roulette game goes bad"

Can someone explain to me when a Russian Roulette game ever goes good?

"The gun was loaded with blanks during the game, but police say Cornell later loaded it with three live rounds."

I thought you only put in 1 live round? Were they playing at a Casino, the odds aren't even in their favor.

Granted, they are all dumbasses, but if the 19 year old put live ammo in the gun like the article says, then he should be prosecuted for murder.

I agree, the game was probably just to gain their trust, using blanks to lower their guard.

Guns do more harm than good. Look at the statistics: where there are guns, there are gun deaths. Where guns are banned, there are very few gun deaths.

There are very, very few instances of guns saving lives, except in the hands of the police.

Dumb kids, raised by dumb parents, do dumb things-- like owning a gun. Get rid of the guns-- at least get rid of hand guns & assault weapons. Stupid idiots make me cry.....

Maybe they used an automatic???

".22-caliber pistol used in the shooting"

Wording failure.
pistol=mag fed
If it was a pistol it would fire every time.
I believe they MEANT to say "revolver", the only firearm that can be used to play Russian Roulette. Otherwise, everyone loses.

@gunskillpeople
it's my Second Amendment right to own firearms. owning a firearm is not dumb.

i did look at the satistics (thanks google)
and i articles with statistics stating in 2005 there were more fatal car accidents than gun-related deaths.

by your analogy: here there are cars, there are car deaths. Where cars are banned, there are very few car deaths.

besides if we dont have firearms how are we to survive the zombie outbreak?

gunskillpeople:

You said: "There are very, very few instances of guns saving lives, except in the hands of the police."

Here are a few thousand sourced examples of citizens protecting themselves and their families (just since 2003) by way of the evil gun: http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/

The FBI and other studies estimates there are between 847,00-2.5 million case of defensive gun uses each year. Where did you get your facts?

Gun are not toys to be played with.

www.likemyscreenshot.com

LOL@SAGE!!

I Agree.

I really don't think the car argument is viable. Driving is a necessary part of life, there are no effective alternatives.

Guns on the other hand, are not necessary, and there are good alternatives. If you need to feel more secure at home, buy a few more locks, or have an alarm system setup. Many criminals say that they fear encountering a dog worse then a gun when entering a home.

Seriously, in a place where guns are illegal, this sort of accident sounds completely absurd. I live in Canada, and if that happened here, the first question would be, "where did they get the gun?", not "why weren't they more responsible".

There is no need for guns in America, it would take a while to fish them all out, but I think it would be a much more comfortable country without them.

RE: gunskillpeople

I do agree that there are people who do not treat guns as my family does and do not give them the necessary respect required in order to safely handle them. This is confirmed by the number of accidents that do occur. Still, the small percentage of accidents that do occur compared to the number of gun owners hardly constitutes justification of taking them away from everybody.

I do understand your argument about the automobile license, insurance, etc. However, does lack of a drivers license, registration, and insurance stop someone from stealing a car, leading police on a high-speed chase, and killing a victim as they blow a red light? Of course not. In some states you are required to register them and have training, especially for a concealed permit. Now I do admit I've never heard of anyone having gun liability insurance.

Let's take this one step farther. What is another thing that many people keep at their homes that kill more kids, have no training, insurance, or license? Swimming pools. More people, especially kids, are killed or injured in swimming pool accidents than gun accidents every year. If we really want to protect our kids, let's work toward banning the bigger cause first. Let's make sure every back-yard swimming pool is filled in before we start working on taking guns away.

My point is rather than putting our heads in the sand and trying to take guns away, let's focus our attention on the real issue, lack of gun education. Encourage some basic gun education in our schools, similar to the DARE drug education programs. It should be the parents' responsibility to do this, but as you will certainly agree it is not taking place as it should. Gun crimes and accidents are extremely low in countries where all young men are required to be a part of a militia and keep their weapons at their homes. This is because kids in those countries are taught from the start to leave them alone. Many kids here now only learn of guns from movies and TV shows. This is the real problem, not the guns themselves.

RE: fireman

If you're more comfortable living in a pseudo-gun-free country, by all means you're more than welcome to live there. I'm glad you feel comfortable in that fact. Personally I feel more comfortable knowing that I have the opportunity to defend myself and that several of my neighbors will be able to back me up should the proverbial brown stuff hit the rotating blades. To each their own, which is what I've said from the start. I'm only asking that I be able to make my own decision, as you have, and not to have that decision-making right taken away.

Looks like fireman must be either a troll who pastes the same response in multiple times, or an automated script bot, but what the heck...

Driving isn't really a necessary part of life... You can always ride a bike, walk, or go back to a horse and carriage. TVs make a lot of people lazy and fat, and aren't a necessary part of life. Landline telephones are all a person needs, cell phones aren't a necessary part of life either, and many argue that they cause cancer and are a becoming a major factor in automobile accidents. By the logic you present, we should ban those too.

Dirtbikes and snowmobiles. Those serve no "necessary" purpose to most people (with a few exceptions of course, just like with guns) other than for recreational purposes. There are numerous accidents every year, many of them fatal. Are you saying they should be banned too since they aren't a "necessary part of life" and sometimes people get killed using them?

Necessary (in your opinion) or not, some of us do in fact want the above items, including guns, and it is not *your* right to say whether we can have them or not.

Adding more locks is a joke, if an intruder is going to kick in a door with a lock and a deadbolt already, what difference will another lock make. Bars could be added to windows, but then we'd all be living in our own prisons. Sounds much more comfortable to me! Dogs are great, until the criminal with a gun (which he will get regardless of the law) shoots the dog. Alarms are fine and good, but you're looking at several hundred dollars to purchase one and have it installed, then another $30-$40 per month for monitoring service. Just for comparison, you can pick up a very decent handgun for $300, and with about $5/month in ammunition you can target practice more than enough to become and remain competent in handling of said firearm.

To look at the alarm from another angle, the alarm serves 2 purposes. First of all, as a deterrent both pre-crime, and to scare the criminal away once activated. Secondary it is to call the police, which in a lot of areas are at least 4-5 minutes away for response time on a call, or even worse in smaller towns. Why do we want the police to come? Well there are several reasons, but once you strip away the secondary reasons, they have guns. Yep, this evil tool of no-good is exactly what you request when it is your property and/or life that is in jeopardy.

Like I said in my previous response, if you're happy living in Canada, where you feel it is more comfortable, then by all means enjoy your comfort. It is your right to choose to live in a country that doesn't allow guns. I just hope someday the first question that goes through your mind isn't "Why don't I have a gun to protect myself against this guy" rather than "Where did he get the gun?"

There is no "need" for a lot of things in America, and Canada for that matter. If you have no need for something, fine, don't own it. Just don't take away my right to own something because it isn't what you feel is necessary. And make sure you ask yourself if it is "necessary" next time you walk into a restaurant to buy food that could be made just as easily at home. I trust you'll change your mind and go home, since "necessary" seems to be the test as to whether or not someone should be allowed to do something.

And next time try to come up with an original and intelligent response, rather than ignoring counter points and re-pasting your previous comment.

More kids die from guns each year than from cancer, AIDS, and heart disease combined.

uhmm, "game goes bad" Russian Roulette is a game of chance with your LIFE. please tell me how tht can go GOOD. your takin a LOADED gun, and shooting it. and just praying that you didnt catch the bullet that round. how can tht go good, if this paticular round was "bad"? can someone please explain how this frkin game is EVER at ANY point, a good idea? whts the point? some ppl say for the "adriellen rush" uhm, i beg to differ. whts so cool and popular about takin a chance to blow your brains out? or shoot a bullet in your mouth? these are kids who need help, because for them to play this messed-up game, their has to be some reason that their not too worried about loosing their lifes. and i DON'T blame the parents, truth be told, they might be better than half the people writing these comments critizing ppl they have no idea aboout. i mean, honestly, their parents probably had no idea their kids were playing this crazy game,its so easy for kids to lie, and say their going one place, and show up to another, and do crazy stuff like this. dont be so quick to blame the parents.
-marissa/ 14 yrs oldd(:

they was probably listening to Russian roulette by Rhianna

I want a game with the American.