Birthornot.com owners won't talk on video [VIDEO]

• swmnguy - you said what I wanted to. I had two miscarriages as well, at 12 and 17 weeks and there's no way anyone who's been through that would pull a stunt like this. These people are revolting ideologues and this stunt is going to backfire on them big time. Right wingers are always caught off guard by the reaction of normal people (disgust, skepticism) to their manipulative schemes. I refused an amniocentesis during my third pregnancy because there was a small chance it would cause another miscarriage. Yes, I'm pro-choice and I was OK with taking a chance that my child might be disabled, believe it or not! There was no way in hell I was going to end that pregnancy. And in the end, it resulted in a wonderful son who is about to turn 4 and is the best thing that ever happened to me. If these people ever do produce a kid, he/she has my profound sympathy.

• jUST ANOTHER COUPLE OF STUPID FASCIST COCKSUCKERS TRYING TO CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES AND THEIR BROWNSHIRT IDEOLOGY.

• Look her up on Facebook "Alisha J. Arnold" she has her "skinny" picture up. These people will probably need to move to Siberia after this. Most Minnesotans, regardless of whether they are pro-life or pro-choice, loathe desperate attention-seeking fame whores who seek to further their cause by repeatedly lying even after they've been caught. Wonder what Monday at work will be like for them.... "so I heard you're not sure if you want to have an abortion" is frequent conversation I have with my co-workers.

• If it looks like a hoax, smells like a hoax, and it sends a redneck to the door to avoid talking about it, it's a hoax. <p>My wife and I lost our first 2 pregnancies. One miscarried at 12 weeks or so, and while that was tough, it was somehow understandable. The second one miscarried at 20 weeks. That was 15 years ago and I'm not over that yet. That was a baby boy, born alive who died because at 20 weeks they don't have lungs yet. Nobody knows why he was born then. A perinatologist refused to treat my wife when she began to hemorrhage because he was pro-life and thought we wanted him to abort our child. She almost died before the hospital got the other perinatologist in to deal with the situation and save the life that could be saved. <p>When my wife told me she wanted to try again I thought she was nuts. She finally talked me into it and sure enough, around 24 weeks she went into early labor. Steroids and bed rest got us far enough along that it was safe for the baby to be born. He's 13 now, and miraculous. <p>Our fourth pregnancy was a walk in the park. No drama; beautiful daughter, now 10. <p>That was enough for me. We're done having kids. <p>My points in going to such length are: A fetus isn't a baby until it's viable outside the womb. That's not me talking; that's God, who doesn't put lungs in the damn things until 20 - 24 weeks. Lungs are necessary on Earth, don't you know. Also, nobody who has lost two pregnancies would really put the choice of an abortion up to an online vote. <p>Look, the damned anti-choice doctor who was willing for me to risk losing my wife, when it was an absolute certainty we were already going to lose my son; that s.o.b. can burn in hell. He's not pro-life at all; he's a flat out misogynist, willing to let my wife die for his warped idea of a vengeful sky deity. <p>My experience as a father has convinced me utterly of the non-negotiable importance of honest medical treatment of women in relation to childbirth. Anyone who says anything different is pushing a bizarre death-worshipping agenda; no matter how much they claim to be "pro-life." <p>This current stunt is a particularly despicable hoax, designed to smear anyone who supports a woman's right to medical advice. To hell with them, too. They're not cute, they're not funny, and they're not going to be the next James O'Keefe fraudulent scam artist right-wing rock star if I can help it.

• Clearly this is a hoax, because nobody wants to have sex with someone who is morbidly obese. I would try to abort myself if my dad drove that ugly ass neon with a vanity plate.

• Yeah, I grew up in Cannon with this dweeb, he was a serious dork, with an ax to grind because he wasn't very cool.... doesn't surprise me that him and his fat-ass wife wanted to come up with a way to get attention. Did they really think that people wouldn't figure out this is fake? The best part is, they continue to deny it is, continually digging themselves a deeper, deeper hole. Guess what Pete, some of us won't forget your publicity stunt, including your kid. This will be a fun one to explain that they were a pawn in your games before they were even born!

• Don't think you need the license plate to get that this is a hoax intended to make pro-choicers look like horrible, amoral people. Consider the following red flags - sounds to me like they're very aware that they come straight from Sarah Palin's "Real America" (i.e. white, small town, lower to middle class): * bragging about growing up in small town "surrounded by corn-fields" (rolls eyes); * Married in "traditional ceremony" (rolls eyes); * Bragging about parents still being married to each other (eyes beginning to hurt); * Two failed planned pregnancies this year; now a successful pregnancy and we're supposed to believe they're seriously struggling with aborting? * And the biggest: "you can vote and choose whether we abort or keep our UNBORN CHILD." Hey hoaxers: only pro-lifers consider a fetus an "unborn child." Pro-choicers don't believe that they're children and that it's ok to kill children; they believe they're not viable humans yet and therefore it is not immoral. My thoughts? I don't know at what point it becomes a "child" so the moral answer is to err on the side of considering that it IS a child from conception (yes, even in case of rape or incest-if it's a child, that child did not choose who mom and dad are). At the same time, we have to recognize that forcing many people to give birth to an unwanted, unexpected child has HUGE implications for their psyche, social, and financial lives. Of course we, as a society, could choose to offer far more support to mothers in these terrible situation - creating media campaigns to support them, offering them far more financial support and social programs to help them make better choices before, during and after pregnancy (yes, that means government spending on welfare mothers, social programs, and education, and yes, that means your taxes will go up...are you willing to pay more taxes to avoid abortions?); and encouraging and facilitating adoption, including welcoming adoption into supportive gay and lesbian homes. (gasp!) Or, we could continue to stoop to new lows with increasingly deceptive smear campaigns.

• Chin-less wonder answers door....

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