Interview with David Wynn Miller, Jared Loughner's alleged grammar guru

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Miller and Loughner also shared an interest in 2012 prophecies.
Jared Loughner, the 22-year-old psycho accused of the Arizona rampage, may have been influenced by Milwaukee grammar conspiracy theorist David Wynn Miller.

On his YouTube channel, Loughner expounds his barely coherent philosophies on grammar, word logic, and government brainwash. These could be just the senseless rants of a schizophrenic, but some of Loughner's rhetoric bears a striking a resemblance to the lessons Miller has taught for decades.

Miller, an anti-taxer and quasi-celebrity of the fringe right, has never met Loughner, he says. "I don't know who he is outside of what I just saw on the news."

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Jared Loughner's high school yearbook photo
His theories are published in detail on his website, however, which could be how the 22-year-old accused gunman learned about them.

"The young man in Arizona, I have nothing to do with any of that," says Miller. "I've had over 1 billion students in the 11 years my website's been up."

In a 2002 seminar in Las Vegas, Miller explained that the road to solving grammar conspiracies began in 1980 (audio here).

He and his wife had just divorced, and a judge sent the kids home with the wife. Miller felt the court's decision constituted gender discrimination, and became determined to get to the bottom of how such a thing could happen.

"I set out on a course to find out what caused this event to take place in our history," said Miller at the Vegas seminar. "That in a land that we believed that was America, that an individual could be a victim of apartheid and discrimination, and that the court system could get away with it."

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Miller, a.k.a. the "King of Hawaii" strikes a pose.
Miller ultimately concluded that the government was using language to brainwash people. If he could apply mathematical theory to language, he could crack the code.

In 1988, Miller says he did just that. He calls it the "Mathematical Interface for Language." Basically, Miller suggests one can alter their language to up the accuracy of a statement. This usually involves beginning a sentence with a preposition, and adding hyphens and colons in strategic places.

"It gives you a level of accuracy in construction of a sentence that is so profound, when you write an entire document of 10, 20, 30 thousand words, and every single sentence has a 1 to 100 million accuracy, you wind up with a document that is so accurate, that it commands an event that is not disputed," Miller explained at the seminar.

Here's an example, via Miller's website:


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Jared Loughner, the alleged Arizona gunman, may have been influenced by David Wynn Miller's fringe grammar theories.
FOR THESE CREATIONS OF OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE CLAIM OF THE FORMATION WITH A NOW-TIME-TENSE OF THE LEAST-COMMON-DENOMINATOR. FOR THE CREATION OF THESE SENTENCES, PARAGRAPHS AND DEFINITIONS ARE WITH THESE CALIMS OF THE TITLES, CODES, CONSTITUTIONS, C.C., FOR ALL FACTS, FOR THE CREATIONS OF THESE NOW-TIME-TENSE-BRIEF.

Now, consider an excerpt from one of Loughner's YouTube diatribes:

"In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brain wash on the people by controlling grammar."

Full video:

Loughner and Miller might share more radical philosophies than just grammar conspiracy. On Twitter this weekend, Catie Parker, a former classmate of Loughner, said that Loughner was "oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

Miller has also taken an interest in 2012. In a video posted to YouTube called, "David-Wynn: Miller - Towards 2012!", Miller talks about the Mayan and Egyptian prophecies that the world will end, and how they relate to mathematical theory.

In an interview Monday, Miller said he had not looked at Loughner's YouTube videos -- "I don't even know where to look for that," he says -- so he couldn't speculate on any similarities between theories.

"I guess we'll found out what his agenda is when they put him up on trial," says Miller. "I mean, to go out and kill that many people is just crazy."

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Pxixmxax
Pxixmxax

What kind of language did they use against him in court? And the whole is amazed why he was smiling/grinning.

Ard
Ard

Time to start rounding these wackos up and sending them to holding facilities in North Dakota!

fiver
fiver

Time to round you up and put you in a holding facility, fascist.

Mark
Mark

Rush Limbaugh just said Loughner was a leftist. So clearly, any evidence to the contrary can't be true.

Phoenix Woman
Phoenix Woman

The Montana Freemen, the Posse Comitatus, and other far-right groups have subscribed to Miller's beliefs for decades. It's what made the Freemen think they could avoid paying debts and taxes, among other things: If we rename it, we can make it go away!

factchecker
factchecker

1 billion students in the 11 years his website has been up? Yeah right. According to a web analytics site, his webpage gets about 1500 unique visitors per month. That equates to a total of 298,000 visitors in the past 11 years.

What a lying sack of pooh.

Zipinparadise
Zipinparadise

Okay, so how exactly did he become "the King of Hawaii"? And who is the crazy one here?

speedro
speedro

Watch the David Wynn Miller speech, he is insane. He seems totally schizophrenic!

Bort
Bort

Nice to see "alleged guru" appear once you click on the article ...

Jonathon Sharkey
Jonathon Sharkey

Within the first week of my Presidency in 2013, this bitch is going to curse the day he was conceived. I will make what Hitler did to the Jews, look like a slap in the face.

When I done with Jared, Usama bin Laden will beg the UN to protect him from me! *,...,*

Jonathon The Impaler Sharkey

discombobulated
discombobulated

It would seem to me that it is crazy to kill anyone, not "that many people".

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