Rep. Keith Ellison: Muslim Brotherhood irrelevant [TRANSCRIPT]

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Ellison: Ignore the Muslim Brotherhood.
Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has made a run for the border after three weeks of protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square. Egyptians have thrown off decades of autocratic, humiliating rule. The country seems poised for the advent of democracy.

Good, right? Wrong. Time to be scared again, according to conservatives like Newt Gingrich and Glenn Beck. The Muslim Brotherhood now stands ready to deprive us of mom, apple pie and baseball.

Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, is having none of it. Interviewed last night by MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell (before Mubarak stepped down today) he called the Muslim Brotherhood irrelevant, and urged Americans to be inspired by Egypt's home-grown democratic movement.

We transcribed the exchange:

O'DONNELL: In terms of events in Egypt tonight, I'd like to get your sense of the Muslim Brotherhood, and what to expect if they do become part of a power-sharing government. Apparently at this time their leaders poll very badly among the Egyptian population and they seem to represent approximately 20 percent of the people. What would be your anticipation of the Muslim Brotherhood's roll in a future Egyptian government?

ELLISON: What is so exciting about this [Egyptian] movement is that it is a stunning rebuke to al-Qaedaism, a stunning rebuke to anyone who would impose their will on the people through the use of bombs, or force, or anything like that. Not only that, but the people who are in Tahrir Square, some of them are religious, some of them are not, but this is a demand for dignity, for democracy and jobs, and it's exciting. It's both sexes. It's different kinds of people, Christian, Muslim, people of all different kinds of backgrounds. This is about the people. It has nothing to do with what some sectarian group's agenda is. This is a scarecrow, this talk about the Muslim Brotherhood. But the most important thing is this a group of people who are rejecting al-Qaedaism, rejecting religious extremism and saying they want what we already have, which is democracy, and we have to stand on the side of that, Lawrence. I urge the leaders in the United States, with every fiber in my being, to stand unequivocally with the people of Egypt.

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Dennis
Dennis

Of course Ellison would say the MB is irrelevant. He's received financial support from them and has close ties to many of its U.S. leaders. This guy is a danger to the republic and should be investigated.

Old Rogue
Old Rogue

A SWING AND A STRIKE!

Although you can't see it yet – as it has been "flagged for review" – Kirk the Conservative Jerk wrote:“So, I see some of you are naysayers to my sources. Well BAM the origanal reporthttp://pewglobal.org/2010/12/0...But, but, but I've searched and searched, (ya sure you did Old Rogue) and I couldn't find the source of the source... LOL”

“Primary search topic goes first. Then the site to search. I used this- "muslim views" site: pewglobal.orgThe article's title was actually- "Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah" Who said you cant teach an "old dog" or Old Rogue new tricks!”

----------------------------------------------------LOL this, Kirk. Your scholarship is laughable. You really should have read it before using it as a citation of the source. Let's compare some of the content in "Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah," to the bold statements in your original post, which you lifted from Investor’s Business Daily.----------------------------------------------------

Kirk's Quote: *95% of Egyptians want their religion to play a “large role in politics.”

PEW: “Opinions are about evenly divided in Egypt, where 48% of Muslims say Islam plays a large role in their country’s political life and 49% say it plays only a small role.” Kirk's Quote: *84% favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim faith.

PEW: No data/commentary found. Kirk's Quote: *77% think thieves should have their hands cut off. PEW: No data/commentary found.

Kirk's Quote: *54% believe suicide bombings that kill civilians can be justified.

PEW: “One-in-five Muslims in Egypt and Jordan offer support for suicide bombing in defense of Islam, as do 15% of Indonesian Muslims. Yet, far more in these three countries say these violent acts are never justified; 46% of Muslims in Egypt and a majority in Jordan (54%) and Indonesia (69%) reject suicide bombings.” Kirk's Quote: *Almost half support the terrorist group Hamas.

PEW: “In contrast, Muslims in the other Middle Eastern countries polled are nearly evenly divided in their views of Hamas: 49% of Muslims in Egypt and Lebanon have a favorable opinion and 48% in each country have an unfavorable view of the group.”

(Note: A “favorable opinion” is not the same thing as “support.”)

PEW: “In Egypt, views of Hezbollah are overwhelmingly negative; just three-in-ten Muslims in that country have a favorable opinion of the group, while 66% have an unfavorable opinion.”

PEW: “In Egypt, about one-in-five Muslims offer positive opinions of bin Laden (19%) and his organization (20%), while more than seven-in-ten express negative views of each (73% and 72%, respectively).”

Kirk's Quote: *82% of Egyptians dislike the U.S. - the highest unfavorable rating among the 18 Muslim nations surveyed by Pew.

PEW: No data/commentary found. I did however find that President Obama’s popularity had slipped, but absolutely nothing quantifying how much “Egyptians dislike the U.S.”----------------------------------------------------So we are left with assuming the Investor’s Business Daily (I did email the editor for clarification) fudged the facts, but more to the point, it clearly points out that Kirk the Conservative Jerk and his ilk, will grasp at anything to dismiss events appearing vaguely liberal. Like freedom, or democracy.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

So, I see some of you are naysayers to my sources. Well BAM the origanal reporthttp://pewglobal.org/2010/12/0...But, but, but I've searched and searched, (ya sure you did Old Rogue) and I couldn’t find the source of the source... LOL

Primary search topic goes first. Then the site to search. I used this- "muslim views" site: pewglobal.orgThe article's title was actually- "Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah" Who said you cant teach an "old dog" or Old Rogue new tricks!

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

they're holding my follow up comment for review so here it is again without the link being activeSo, I see some of you are naysayers to my sources. Well BAM the origanal reportpewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musli...But, but, but I've searched and searched, (ya sure you did Old Rogue) and I couldn’t find the source of the source... LOL

Primary search topic goes first. Then the site to search. I used this- "muslim views" site: pewglobal.orgThe article's title was actually- "Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah" Who said you cant teach an "old dog" or Old Rogue new tricks!

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

So, I see some of you are naysayers to my sources. Well BAM the origanal reporthttp://pewglobal.org/2010/12/0...But, but, but I've searched and searched, (ya sure you did Old Rogue) and I couldn’t find the source of the source... LOL

Primary search topic goes first. Then the site to search. I used this- "muslim views" site: pewglobal.orgThe article's title was actually- "Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah" Who said you cant teach an "old dog" or Old Rogue new tricks!

Sbh
Sbh

...so says the guy who has take all-expenses paid VIP trips to Mecca for his personal Hajj.....

Come back and tell us again when you've done the crawl on your hand and knees like a proper penitent.

Hypocrite

periodista
periodista

Yes, since Kirk has a wife who used to be Muslim, he obviously knows everything there is to know about the faith of 1.5 billion people....

Jeez. Get a life, bro. Short of that, get some facts. And maybe take a course in logic.

IMO
IMO

Well Kirk, looks like you're 100% invested in Egypt as a failed state. You could have at least said "I am hoping for the best, but". Anyhoo, how far back on the citypages archives do I have to find you extolling the virtues of regime change and Democracy in Iraq? Let me guess: you have amnesia?

If your personal story is true, I'm sorry for any difficulties you've had, but I'm going to go ahead and assume your anectode is a ploy to gain the trust of those who read your comments so they appear to be from a level headed open minded person.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

According to the Islamic faith, one can lie to further the Islamic faith. Just ask my former Muslim wife from Morocco. See she also tried to convince me "Bin laden is a good guy" after 911 and refused to believe he had anything to do with it. That's when I ripped the marriage apart. But enough about my past hell.

According to a major survey conducted last year by the Pew Research Center, adults in Egypt don't crave Western-style democracy.The vast majority of them want a larger role for Islam in government. This includes making barbaric punishments, such as stoning adulterers and executing apostates, the law of their country. With the ouster of their secular, pro-American leader, they may get their wish.

Among highlights from the Pew poll:

• 49% of Egyptians say Islam plays only a "small role" in public affairs under President Hosni Mubarak, while 95% prefer the religion play a "large role in politics."

• 84% favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim faith.

• 82% support stoning adulterers.

• 77% think thieves should have their hands cut off.

• 54% support a law segregating women from men in the workplace.

• 54% believe suicide bombings that kill civilians can be justified.

• Nearly half support the terrorist group Hamas.

• 30% have a favorable opinion of Hezbollah.

• 20% maintain positive views of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.

• 82% of Egyptians dislike the U.S. — the highest unfavorable rating among the 18 Muslim nations Pew surveyed.

Better before, or better after. We will have to wait and see. Just remember people, this is supposed to be a "democracy movement" with a outcome of "western style freedom" for all.Cuz that is what all the liberal elitist talking heads have been saying right?Remember this moment! Remember what they said this was!

Old Rogue
Old Rogue

These "statistics" are running like wildfire across the net, and all leading back to Investors Business Daily, but no further. I have searched The Pew Research Center from top to bottom, and can't find them. A little suspicious, seeing as everybody is quoting the same ultra-conservative rag. (Hint: When The Times of London calls the IBD "conservative," you know you're in trouble.)

simong02
simong02

Quite frequently you are replacing "Egyptian Muslims" with "Egyptians", which is a little weird. They're not all Muslim. The poll is still interesting, though, this is truth that doesn't need bending. Stick to the facts.

hag
hag

Can you cite this?

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