2C-E: What is it?

Categories: Drugs
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Jon Hanna, Erowid
Alexander Shulgin developed and wrote about the 2C family.
Authorities say the drug responsible for a mass drug overdose in Blaine that killed a 19-year-old father is 2C-E, a synthetic party drug known more commonly as Europa.

Before yesterday, the average Minnesotan had probably never heard of it.

But the 2C chemical family was developed in the 1970s and '80s by Alexander Shulgin, a psychopharmacologist known for popularizing Ecstasy.

It has never been blamed as a cause of death--before yesterday.

In his book, PiHKAL: A Chemical Love Story, Shulgin summarizes his own experience with Europa at different doses. Here's what 16 mg felt like:

There was a strange devil-angel pairing. As I was being told of the ecstatic white-light ascent of my partner into the God-space of an out-of-body experience, I was fighting my way out of a brown ooze...For me it was the 4th of July, rather than Easter!
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PiHKAL
The molecular structure of 2C-E.
Europa became popular in the United States around the early to mid-2000s, mostly as a club or party drug. It comes in pill and powder forms, and is usually swallowed, though some choose to snort it. The total duration of the trip can last up to 12 hours, but is usually more like 6 to 9.

Though many of its cousin drugs have been criminalized--such as 2C-B and 2C-T-7--Europa is legal in the U.S., and can be bought online as a "research chemical."

It is illegal in a number of other countries, including New Zealand, Japan, and Denmark. In 2002, the United Kingdom classified Europa as a Class-A illegal substance.

Here's another personal account, via Erowid:

And yes, it was impressively visual. I was more impressed with the non-aesthetic effects of 2C-E, but even still the visuals are nothing that can be dismissed. I had very thick lasting trails, it didn't seem all "multiples frames", if I moved my arm trough the air it would seem as though my hand were leaving solid impressions of itself behind.
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Europa is legal in the United States, and is often marketed as a "research chemical."
Not all experiences are so positive, however. Other accounts detail extreme paranoia, fear, and unwanted epiphanies. Europa can also cause physical sickness.

In Minnesota, law enforcement agents say they don't have much (if any) experience with 2C-E specifically, but there seems to be a rise in similar synthetic, legal drugs.

"These analog type drugs are kind of becoming more and more of a problem," says Anoka County Sheriff commander Paul Sommer, whose department is handling the case in Blaine. "We haven't specifically dealt with anything of this magnitude."

Continuing Coverage of 2C-E

* One dead, 10 hospitalized in mass drug overdose in Blaine

* Trevor Robinson, 19, dead from 2C-E overdose

* 2C-E: What is it?



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31 comments
Derek Harrison
Derek Harrison

wasn't the death attributed to mislabeled bromo-dragonfly?

aaron
aaron

These kids that died or overdosed are, and im not meaning to sound insulting, idiots.  You must know and respect these substances before you ingest them. They took massive doses of a substance unknown to them.  These "drugs" can be taken safely if you take the time to research and educate yourself before you just start snorting and ingesting things. And remember,  Erowid.com is your friend.

PISSEDOFF
PISSEDOFF

I normally dont get involved with blogs but this one here has really hit HOME. I myself have taken 2C-E and yes i did get to explore parts of my brain that I didnt know were there. You listen to me you crazy people who think you know every thing. And for you with the MEMBER NAME SATISFIED VETERAN you make me so fucking sick to my stomach. I read a very touching story by the young man's father who died and you do nothing but put the poor young boy down. Yes this boy did probably think he was being cool. He and none of the others planned on dieing or overdosing that horrible night. It was all a big accident. And you calling this kid a "IDIOT AND A DUMMY" REALL REALLY UPSETS ME especially right after his own FLESH AND BLOOD his own DAD posted a comment on here sharing his tragic story of his son dieing due to taking this drug. Just think if that would of been your son or very close friend or relative. You make me so sick to my stomach. If this did happen to someone that was close to you then you wouldnt be saying the things you have said. I hope and pray god will forgive you for your crazy thinking.  

anonymous j
anonymous j

Jesus died 2000 years ago to pay for the sin of the world. He was forgiven then. Not if he were to ask for it.

Scott2011a
Scott2011a

There is nothing wrong with 2ce if taken at the right dosage, these kids abviously didn't even have a clue what they were even injesting, so it was mostly thier own fault why they overdosed. 

Swilhelm
Swilhelm

So...your saying that 2CE can/should be taken for the sole purpose of getting high.  Your an idiot. 

Studentforlife
Studentforlife

and Jilleve1 is a dumb turd. if synthetic chemicals put plastic on your brain you wouldn't have any medications out there to treat diseases or anything else. i am a chemistry major with a minor in bio. everything in the world has the potential to cause harm and death.. just because someone can drink so much water and they overdose on water and it kills them should we make water illegal. no we don't you know why?? because that person was stupid enough not to realize what they were doing and to stop and think for a min.

Jtrn
Jtrn

Studentforlife....the name says it all....u are calling the mother of a deceased child a "turd"? How about the people he got it from? To me, they are the ones who are ruining things think about that!! Maybe u should take a course in ethics....

Studentforlife
Studentforlife

You know the saying it only takes one person to mess up a good thing... Well this is a perfect example of that one person messing up a good thing and shows how people who are irresponsible end up ruining it. Like others have said you can not blame the drug for killing anyone not this drug, not heroin, not crack, not any drug. What kills people are them not being responsible and being accountable for their on actions. This is a case of a kid who thought he was scar face an thought he was cool and tried to get everyone high, but really didn't know anything about what he was giving people or taking himself.

anon
anon

here is a question.. how much did those bozo's take? he had close to 9 grams in his pocket LOOSE. 2ce is something you cant really eyeball a dose.. you need a milligram scale.. he could have fed those kids upwards of hundreds of mg.. which is crazy. sensitivity for this substance is on a person by person basis and people who take it understand 1) the risks 2) the fact that 5mg could push you over the limit 3)it is extremely strong substance known for it duration and intense visuals and loop like thought patterns 4)if you intend on ingesting it: you do it orally and start with a small dose of 10mg. NEXT TIME (as in at least 24hrs later) you might try 15mg.. 5)it is NOT a party drug. it is a research chemical which is intended for people who like to research altered states of consciousness and personal insight.THANKS MORON FOR WRECKING A BUNCH OF YOUNG PEOPLE*S LIVES WITH YOUR IRRESPONSIBILITY: YOU DESERVE TO GO TO JAIL. IN ADDITION: YOU ARE INSURING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DO TAKE THIS SUBSTANCE AND ARE RESPONSIBLE WITH IT WONT BE ABLE TO GET IT ANY LONGER OR WILL GET ARRESTED. THANKS AGAIN #### BAG!!

Jilleve1
Jilleve1

well to all you people that have nothing better to do then go in here and gossip about things you dont know about my son Trevor Robinson and his 11 other friends sat down to enjoy a st. patricks house party and ordered this legal substance over the internet and had no idea of what was to come. No one even knows for sure where this is made ( most likely someones basement or old bathtub) and in less than 15 minutes my son was dead and his friends were high and most hospitalized. Trust me when I say I was no angel when I was a teen but never in my life had to fear death. Worst I repeat this is a legal government drug. And of course way too late to save my sons life they decide to cover ass and snap a illegal title on this 2ce and arrest and convict my sons friend because of distribution. flUckmmm something wrong with this pic. My son was a beautiful life of the party happy go lucky, with his entire life ahead of him with his new born son. He was soon to join the United States Air Force to fight for our country and he was ready to die for our country not this way. He was not a crazy party teenager he made a bad choice with a trusted drug that he knew would not affect his military random drug tests.... get it now... he is very missed and saved many lifes. To those of you that see no harm good luck on your path of death. Just dont take others with you.

Chelseavayne
Chelseavayne

It was his choice to take it and know nothing about it.. Don't trust anything you get over the Internet, that's just stupidity.

Coldchill54
Coldchill54

you should try it yourself sir youll think differently....youll feel what trippin is really like u dont even fucking kno old man!!!!!

Satisfied Veteran
Satisfied Veteran

I'm glad that I don't have your drug-using kid "defending" my beloved country. WTF was he thinking when he ordered / purchased / distributed / ingested this foreign substance. I'll tell you - HE WASN'T THINKING AT ALL - brainless idiot. I, for one, do not want someone like THAT defending my country. Next time, have a beer instead...dummy.

d.christian10
d.christian10

@Satisfied Veteran I realize this event transpired 2 years ago however you have an interesting point of view. From your statement I take it you drink alcohol? I hope you never have to be treated for alcohol induced dementia. The number of fatalities, liver and kidney disorders, permanent brain damage from long term use and individuals I have treated for delerium tremens is astounding and I have only been a registered practitioner for less then a decade. I consider the abuse of alcohol on par or possibly worse then the damage caused by a methamphetamine addiction. The army used to feed amphetamines to the bulk of allied forces involved in WWII to maintain focus etc. I have seen first hand what someone psychotic on amphetamine or crystal methamphetamine can do (have had many incidences in which I have had to defend myself).  I sympathize deeply with the family members who lost their son and have lost many friends myself to suicide, drug overdoses, combat roles, disease, cancer etc.

 What I fail to understand is how you come to the conclusion that the individual who has passed on is a "brainless idiot". I will say that the individual supplying the substance was not the smartest person as he failed to research the substance he was handing out in unmeasured doses. 500 mg of pure 2c-e would be enough of the substance to provide for 30 or more people. To have a vial with  as much as 10 grams and to distribute this substance without weighing each individual doses is what caused this young mans death is unimaginable to myself. This young man died because his friend did not know what he was doing not because he was a "brainless idiot". 2c-e is not a substance that should be used by anyone as it is a research chemical. 

 The real issue here is caused by the prohibition of other substances that are more well known with a history of human use. As a result a market has developed for these drugs and it will continue to flourish as new research into legitimate pharmaceuticals will no doubt provide a slew of new drugs that dodge both state and federal drug analogue laws. Add the development by underground chemists that work for organisations that develop and sell these off substances and you have an almost non-stop supply of drugs that will replace others as they become scheduled. Methoxetamine is just one example, created by an amateur British chemist who lost an arm as the result of an IRA bombing in the 80's to ease his phantom limb pain that is still with him today. Information and education are key tools not prohibition. Know what your saying no to or if you say yes then know what it is you are ingesting, dosages, MSDS, research publications etc. It reductionist, reactive thinking such as your own that influences politicians and their policies. Zero tolerance is a joke wake up to yourself or are you already suffering from a lack of vitamin B to the brain and experiencing the early stages of Korsakoff's syndrome. With a post like that it is a possibility!

Jtrn
Jtrn

Yeah we need cold people like you So that when they are killed nobody cares....

PISSEDOFF
PISSEDOFF

you sorry son of a bitch. This guys son DIED and your putting his son down. I HOPE and PRAY FOR YOU. You really need to think twice before you post stuff like this. Really think about what you said.

Samuraidrifter
Samuraidrifter

Yeah, have a beer... because nobody's ever died of an alcohol overdose. Moron.

@Jilleve1, sorry for your loss. people should have some compassion.

666OBSCURITY
666OBSCURITY

2c-E... What is it?... FUCKING AMAZING!!

anonymous
anonymous

2C-E is NOT A PARTY DRUG. It is a very potent psychedelic that causes profound thinking and should only be used as a tool to explore the mind. If used responsibly, it is very safe. If used irresponsibly, however, it can have dire consequences, the least of which can be an extremely unpleasant trip. This story is very sad indeed, not only in part to the loss of life, but because now 2C-E will be misconstrued as a dangerous party drug when in reality it is an obscure research chemical that can be used as a valuable tool for those who respect it, but can be a terrifying or in this case, devastating experience for those who abuse it.

People need to be educated about the truth rather than scared away by negative propaganda when something tragic like this happens. Let this be a learning experience and a lesson for people to not mess with things they do not understand.

I'll say it again, taking 2C-E at a party is just a recipe for disaster.

Anynoums
Anynoums

Agree completey... Not a party drug indeed. Plus the fact that they actually consumed bromo-dragonfly instead, which has a dosing in the micrograms instead of milligrams, is the fault of the supplier and the disregard for the needed allergy test when consuming any research chemical. It is sad these things get into the hands of young uninformed people but some of the greatests minds have been self-discovered through the use of psychedelics. I think it was steve jobs that said one of the most influential points in his life was an LSD trip. Also goes to show you how benign this drug actually is... Took 30-40 years before anyone even knew what it did and that only came around because someone ingested mislabeled drugs. Sad sad day for shulgin

Raberta2003
Raberta2003

A death is not propoganda.

anyms
anyms

not propoganda i agree. but i also agree with irresponability

Alejo Alberdi
Alejo Alberdi

I just can't fathom how a drug (an inanimate object) could be deemed "responsible" for anything, since only people behave responsibly or irresponsibly.

flooded
flooded like.author.displayName 1 Like

The drug injested was not 2c-e it was a mislabled package of bromo-dragonfly which doses are measured in micrograms not milligrams the two substances are almost identical

also there has been reports of people taking 1000+ mg doses of 2c-e and not over dosing the media doesnt know anything

Jilleve1
Jilleve1

you are an idiot. wow if you only knew how many made up synthetic chemicals are in these drugs. Puts plastic on your brain

Nromanela
Nromanela

Hi Jill, Id love to talk to you about this. My name is Nicole and I am an associate producer for The Dr. Oz Show. Dr. Oz is Oprah's medical doctor. Please call me 212-259-1523.Thank you

stupiddoper
stupiddoper

you sir, are the idiot. this drug is a single chemical, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylphenethylamine.and insulin given to diabetes patients is a synthetic chemical. that doesnt make it bad.

Swilhelm
Swilhelm

Yet that doesnt mean it should be used to get high! 

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