Dayton vetoes abortion bills, reminds politicians they aren't doctors

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Just to prove they weren't totally heartless, Republicans pushed through a bill this session that, while outlawing all abortions after 20 weeks, made exceptions for saving the life of a mother or sparing her from irreparable physical harm.

But if that woman were a victim of rape or incest, the bill would have required her to carry the baby to term. Such kindness.

Gov. Mark Dayton vetoed that bill yesterday. He also vetoed another measure that would have outlawed abortion funding for poor women, as if "those" women's health needs were any different than those who have money in the bank.

The 20-week limit was a solution in search of a problem: Abortions after 20 weeks in Minnesota are incredibly rare. Of them, most are the result of a mother discovering she's carrying a baby that is critically deformed and almost certain to die upon birth--a discovery that can't be detected until after 20 weeks of gestation.

One such mother testified earlier this session against the 20-week bill, only to be brushed aside by Republican Rep. Bob Barrett, who wasn't interested in the scientific facts the woman brought to the hearing. He said that as far as he was concerned, the opinions of former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, a staunch reproductive rights foe, trumped all scientific evidence about the life expectancy of severely deformed fetuses.

Here's Alicia Hempl, whose doctor discovered last summer that her fetus carried a devastating chromosome abnormality called Trisomy 18.

And here's Barrett, who begins by admitting he doesn't know a whole lot about the medical condition being discussed.

Dayton's veto message takes an indirect swipe at Barrett's kind of thinking.

Medical research, findings, and conclusions are best left to experts who are trained to make medical, not political, decisions, and who are in the best position to protect a woman's health. Our place is not between a woman and her doctor.

As for targeting poor women, state funding is already limited to abortions in cases of rape, incest, and when a woman's life is in danger. Pull state funding from even those cases, and it "infringes upon a woman's basic right to health and safety, a right every woman has, regardless of how she receives her health coverage," Dayton said.

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Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Breaking news!!!!!!

Gallup released its annual abortion poll today showing Americans want all or most abortions made illegal and saying they believe abortion to be morally wrong, but the poll found Americans split on what they call their abortion position.The Gallup polling firm conducted a national survey from May 5-8 with a random sample of 1,018 adults, aged 18 and older from across the nation. The poll has a 4 percentage point margin of error.By a 24 percent margin, 61-37 percent, Americans take the pro-life view that abortions should either be legal under no circumstances or legal only under a few circumstances.

Mark Dayton continues to show how "out of touch" he REALLY is.

green23
green23

On the plus side, this is all about creating jobs. It must be, because that's what these legislators were elected to do.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

What a noble job.  Electively slaughtering the unborn.  There has to be a special place after death for those involved in that.

Despite personal religious beliefs, or whether you believe abortion is an eternal sin; Dayton wants us all to commit this sin collectivity.  Screw your religion and your religious beliefs say Dayton.  If we burn, we all burn together.  Minnesota spent 1.4 million publicly funded dollars in 2010 to preform nearly 4000 abortions.

Example:If I was to knowingly give someone money, being fully aware they were to buy a gun and rob a bank or kill someone; doesn't that essentially make me a co-conspirator to that crime?I wonder how God views this the selfish collective slaughter of the unborn? 

Personally I LOVE the liberal plan to weed the parasites from society.  Just as one of Obama's Czars believes (or a least wrote a book on) that we should eliminate the least productive of the population.  Then socialism would truly work right?   We cant have people who only take.  (Holdren is currently Obama's Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy "Science Czar") 

Some highlights from the book Holdren authored in 1977:• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.

What's more wonderful than population control through sterilization and abortion? 

Yes folks, you have to love the liberal mind.

and from above - "But if that woman were a victim of rape or incest, the bill would have required her to carry the baby to term."Well that's just very misleading if not a lie?  Typical CP

First off, if you were raped, why would you wait 20 weeks?Were you trying to build an affection for the demon seed planted within you?And suddenly, after 20 weeks you decide you don't have any affection for the demon seed within?What would prevent you from going to a state like Illinois to have such abortion?  Or any other state that would allow.  I'm guessing any major hospital in Illinois will do a late term abortions right next door to the in- vitro fertilization program. 

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Great point Kirk.  I'm so sick of liberals standing up for "victims" of rape and incest.    If some little 14 year old slut is raped by her father she should be forced to carry that baby to term at gunpoint if necessary by a Tea Party government official.    If she didn't want a rape baby then maybe she should have fought a little bit harder.    Much like Kirk I've never been raped but I know for a fact that being raped does not cause any adverse mental effects.  I'm sure after being raped by your father you'd be in such a calm mental state that making a decision like abortion would be easy.    When will more people join with Kirk and the rest of the Tea Party Republicans and stand up for rapists and those that force incest on their family?     I don't need no fancy book learning to know that a politician is much more qualified than some stupid doctor to make medical decisions.    Listen victims of rape and incest, no more free rides in Minnesota.    The Tea Party is in charge and you will have that baby or you will die.    

Dave
Dave

I think you might have serious comprehension problems.  Or you have some uncanny ability to read into or between the lines of what kirk was saying.Do it with your own money!

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

I agreed with Kirk idiot.    Maybe you should read before commenting.    It's a great point you make too.   Why would the government want to subsidize the abortion of a 14 year old girl who was just raped by her father?     Get a job lazy!  

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