Is Michele Bachmann smarter than a high school sophomore?

Let Amy debate! Let Amy debate!
Michele Bachmann is famously reluctant to put herself in positions where she might have to talk to someone who disagrees with her.

But Jesus God do we hope she makes an exception in this instance.

Amy Myers, a high school sophomore from Cherry Hill, New Jersey, has thrown down the gauntlet, challenging the Minnesota Representative to a debate and public test on the constitution, U.S. history, and civics.

Myers says Bachmann's frequent errors, misstatements and distortions aren't just bad for civic discourse -- they're bad for women.

"Though politically expedient, incorrect comments cast a shadow on your person and by unfortunate proxy, both your supporters and detractors alike often generalize this shadow to women as a whole," Myers writes.

Meet Amy Myers, the teen who challenged Michele Bachmann to a debate

So to show that Bachmann isn't a great representative of her gender's intellectual capacity, Myers proposes a battle of wits.

This seems like a terrific idea. The public interest is there. Box office and pay-per-view revenue would be enormous. Some enterprising promoter needs to start putting this together STAT.

Read the full text of the challenge to Michele Bachmann on the next page ...



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Paul Herrmann
Paul Herrmann

Ms. You never stated the inaccuracies from Ms. Bachmann. Reading your letter, your SU profile,leads me to believe you have an agenda.If you're going to make such statements, back them up.

Daniel
Daniel

Ms. Myers does not know what a split infinitive is.  "To accurately and factually present..."  Somebody call the grammar police.  

Bachmann4prez
Bachmann4prez

There is no test that would show Amy "is indisputably much more intelligent than Michele Bachmann" simply because she's not. Both academically and in life experience, Michele is, by any standard, more intelligent than this girl. Also, I believe you are a misogynist because you have no respect for Bachmann's intelligence and accomplishments. There's absolutely no way Michele can truly "win" this debate so she shouldn't try. If Amy gets flustered, experiences stage fright and starts crying during the debate, the headlines would scream "Bachmann brings teenager to tears (Why don't you pick on someone your own age, Michele!)!" If Michele brings up a point during the debate that makes Amy's intelligence look questionable the headlines would say "Bachmann attacks and humiliates teen (Amy may not pursue dream of serving in public office due to embarrassment...are you happy, Michele?). It is also possible that Amy may have heard a little known factoid about the Constitution in class the other day that Bachmann hasn't heard in 30 years. If Amy brings this point up and Michele doesn't know it, the headlines would declare "Teenager is indeed smarter than Michele (No future for Bachmann)!" No serious representative gets involved in these publicity stunts simply because there's no upside. 

AJ
AJ

What a little brat.  If my child (14) challenged another PARENT like this, she would be in huge trouble.  This is exactly what's wrong with kids today: they think they are smarter than adults.  NEWSFLASH: you aren't smarter than Michele.  Not by a long shot.  Your parents should be ashamed that they indulge your little whims.  Get a clue, child.

Bachmann4prez
Bachmann4prez

In her letter, Amy states that Michele is one of "a handful" of women in Congress. There are 17 women Senators and 72 Congresswomen. Sounds like much more than a handful to me. Get your facts straight, Amy! 

Lkleyrer
Lkleyrer

You GO, Amy! Anyone taking bets on who the winner would be? I'd LOVE to put everything I have on this kid. 

Rick Calvert
Rick Calvert

I would be far more interested in seeing Sarah Palin lose a debate to a high school gym locker. 

Oladayo S. Olagunju
Oladayo S. Olagunju

 Amy. Go for it. This is why we started a website to allow people in different locations to hold live debates while everyone watches live. I hope someone passes this on to Amy: 

http://www.nyoombl.com/access...., you or your teachers can give me a call or email me: dayo [a] nyoombl [dot] com-Dayo.

BW Gonzalez
BW Gonzalez

I would pay to watch this smack down!

Ramadeyrao
Ramadeyrao

This is a teaching moment...one way or another.. how will Michele handle this absolutely fair request is goign to be a treat to watch. Rememebering always that she,  a woman of advanced years is taking on a high schooler who has done no harm , has stepped out of her box with this suggestion to gain a measure of respect from her peer, and who needs the adult to be an adult. Amy needs you, Michele to be who yu are, a public figure of some responsibility. We are all agog.....!!  

Shanewegner
Shanewegner

"The Demon Code prevents me from declining your Rock Challenge!!" -Tenacius D

Jeff
Jeff

Not only is Ms Myers a great example of a thoughtful, patriotic American but her parents and her school (a public school by the way) should be so proud of her!

Lamiastrix
Lamiastrix

Sadly, there is no way that nitwit Bachmann will submit to this as she's JUST smart enough to know she'd be destroyed.

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

 I too, when of that tender age, used to conflate 'gender' and 'sex', as though they were grammatically the same! the same!

Jinx McHue
Jinx McHue

I'm glad Rep. Bachmann has better things to do.

Elaine Clisham
Elaine Clisham

Jersey Girl here. No such place as Cherry Valley. (As it says right in Myers' letter, she's from Cherry HILL.) Just sayin.'

MaryAnn
MaryAnn

Bachman'll never do it...the kid will clean her clock.

Mike Porter
Mike Porter

 This is an obvious political swipe masquerading as genuine interest in representing women better.  Pelosi is clearly the dumbest human being in Congress, and she is the House Minority Leader, for crying out loud.  Spare me the genderer representation nonsense and call an idealogue (even a 16-year-old one) what she is.

Guest
Guest

 Half the words Myers used aren't even commonly uttered by most undergrad writing majors with magna GPAs. I don't even think most sophomores even know the word "proxy" exists, and the few who do think it's that thing that allows Twitter on school computers. I think it's safe to say Myers is either getting help, or she possesses an exceptionally high IQ. That kinda negates the wonderment her young age is supposed to generate. I take it back. That completely negates it. Bachmann might as well argue with a PhD student with an average IQ. It wouldn't be much different.

Ishida93
Ishida93

 thats awesome. go people! and fuck wack ass politiciansthats awesome. go people! and fuck wack ass politicians

Mortar78
Mortar78

Similarly I would like to see Nanci Pelosi or Harry Reid do so also..........

cosmicwxdude
cosmicwxdude

Yes she is and with any luck will be president some day and get the bloated govt reduced to size and allow my freedom and liberty to flourish much more that it is beneath the weight of the liberal left.  

Matress King trump
Matress King trump

BACHMAN IS A LYING GOP TEA TARDED A- HOLE

OBAMA IS A CITIZENAND WONT ASNWER A 5th GRADERS QUATIONS 

Greg
Greg

so,, why get off the track? we all know that a 10th grader could win,, Cuz everyone knows Ms Bachmann is a dumb ass. 

Kathryn Moore
Kathryn Moore

Amy, you make me proud to be a woman and, by proxy, proud to be a public school teacher.  Bravo! 

Fiddleplayer26
Fiddleplayer26

Cherry Hill, not Cherry Valley. You're giving reporters a bad name.

nycat
nycat

 Um, she's from Cherry Hill, NJ not Cherry Valley, NJ. 

Donald Garber
Donald Garber

Pay per view revenue! Yes! I'd pay $20 to watch that! But the question is, Bachmann has ZERO to gain from this and everything to lose, so... I'll predict she'll have one of her aides do her answering. 

Mn6th Voter4 Senate 2012
Mn6th Voter4 Senate 2012

Will you print my letter, to challenge Senator Amy Klobuchar who has not commented on the price of gasoline, the cost of FOOD, The cost of living, all of which has risen 100% in the last two years. What is Senator Klobuchar doing to bring the price of gas down? Where in the world is Amy Klobuchar? High Gas prices and klobuchar is hiding?No vote for Klobuchar in 2012!

TM
TM

AJ - You are overlooking one important point:  In this case, the child is indisputably much more intelligent than Michele Bachmann.  The letter (if you bothered to read it) was as polite and respectful as possible given the subject matter...  and extremely well written.  Intelligence has nothing to do with age.

BTW - Are you a child abuser AND a misogynist, or do you just resent intelligence greater than your own?

Jeff
Jeff

If that's the biggest criticism of Amy Myers you can muster Bachmann4prez, keep diggin'. Bachmann makes more gaffs than that when she tries to remember even ruimentary facts about the Revolutionary War. She's a fact-checkers dream.(For the record, there are 535 membes of Congress - 17/100 Senators (17%) and 75/435 (17%) Representatives are women. "Handful" means small amount - 17% might indeed be a small amount of something, depending on the context).

Bachmann4prez
Bachmann4prez

You're right, Jinx. She has to try to clean up the Obama Mess. (Have you ever noticed how much "Obama Nation" sounds like "Abomination." It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.) 

L J
L J

Like getting in bushes to spy on gays? That's something better to do?

The woman isn't just stupid and crazy, she's a coward, too.

You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting a worthless moron like that.

Eric Paulsen
Eric Paulsen

 Doing what? Installing more bump-its in her big hair, practicing her googly eyed lunatic smile? Oh, you meant spreading misinformation and ignorance to all the good little mouth breathers in Tea Party Amerikuh.

Shes like a mentally retarded Santa Claus.

Lawyerwench
Lawyerwench

Ok.

Michelle Bachman is an ideologue.

Jane
Jane

What on God's Earth is this even supposed to mean and what are you basing it on? Your extensive experience working with both PhD students and high school sophomores? Or are you just making things up to denigrate a little girl on the internet?

Rick Calvert
Rick Calvert

 With ANY luck?  Gold coins will fall out of Glenn Beck's ass before Michelle Bachmann will be POTUS. 

Rick Calvert
Rick Calvert

...as men have no business trying to defund Planned Parenthood.

Jtrouch
Jtrouch

 Please do not self-medicate!  Take the meds a prescribed, you'll feel much better. 100%? You are too, too amusing.

MIT Ph D
MIT Ph D

 Mn Voter, 

Please do us (Minnesotans) a favor and pretend that you are from another state; I recommend: "Tx Voter."

Thank you.

green23
green23

I think it would be an extremely safe bet that you would never vote for Klobuchar, regardless of the current economic conditions. You know, we had high gas prices under Republican Presidents and Republican Senators, too. I think we all know that a wingnut like you voted for them anyway. Just because you change names every day doesn't mean that people take your ranting outrage more seriously, either.

David Foureyes
David Foureyes

Listen, dude...if you want people to believe your laughable line of BS that you are a PhD holding professor who has lectured at a prestigious University, you are going to have to start capitalizing proper nouns.

Also...this is a joke post right? You had Ad Hominem in your last post, now you've got Red Herring going on here. I take it your PhD studies never included a course in the elements of a coherent argument.

patroclus1
patroclus1

If you have the stupidity to blame gas prices on an individual politician then  you get the moron you deserve to vote for.  Gas prices are a consequence of our collective failure to acknowledge resource depletion in the world, and rising demand in a global market.  By thinking we can simply start a war and steal another country's resources to keep us fat and happy.  By keeping your head in the sand about a variety of issues like land use, energy policies, transportation policies etc.  You lose.

Bachmann4prez
Bachmann4prez

Actually, "handful" means either an amount that can fit in one's hand (you may be able to say 89 sunflower seeds or 89 M&M's are "a handful") or a small number when speaking of other larger things such as hamburgers, books or people. No one means an actual number of 89 if they say they ordered "a handful" of White Castle hamburgers, checked out "a handful" of books from the library or had "a handful" of people over for a dinner party. Percentages don't apply, otherwise I could say there are a handful of people living in China because China's population is 17% of the world's population.

Face it; Amy either by mistake or on purpose grossly under reported the number of women in Congress. Her whole reason, supposedly, for offering to debate Bachmann was because Bachmann was one of "the few" (or one of "a handful") women in Congress, therefore all of her supposed "misstatements" are magnified in reflecting negatively on women serving in Congress because of the small number in Congress. When you consider Bachmann embodies 1.1% of the women serving in Congress, Amy can look to the other 98.9% for her example. (Amy may want to choose Betty McCollum (D-St. Paul) to serve as her example of "common sense" and "intellect." In a debate last year, McCollum said "Global warming is a greater threat to national security than terrorism.")

I only know about Amy through this short letter. She had days if not weeks or months to "dot all the i's and cross all the t's" so to speak (there was no time limit I'm aware of). Yet, if I were to just read her letter for information on the number of women in Congress, I would have been grossly mistaken in assuming there are only four or five and not the 89 there actually are (having all your public statements scrutinized isn't much fun, is it).   

Guest
Guest

Someone really, really missed my point.  

MN Voter
MN Voter

MIT PH D: Don't worry, I'm moving to a state where the taxes are lower. Fuck MINNESOTA and Mark Dayton to boot. AMY KLOBUCHAR is a racist. I want to live in a state where it is warmer and the taxes are lower.  

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

patroclus1: We do not have resource depletion we have a lack of resource acquistion. Amy Klobuchar can relieve us of the taxes being paid at the pump. Klobuchar is a chicken shit who adores the idiot environmental movement that is keeping cheap abundant fuel from us. Amy Klobuchar is stupid, immoral and a racist. 

L J
L J

If they did, it's because you're too stupid to communicate properly.

Here's a newsflash for you, sub-70IQ: I knew the word 'proxy' when I was in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. Fifth grade, to be exact, when I did a report about Napoleon. It was in these things called BOOKS that I got at the LIBRARY. One of them discussed how he married his second wife by PROXY.

Just because you're an uneducated buffoon doesn't mean that everyone else is--even when they're a fraction of your age.

mnjoe
mnjoe

 Mn Voter - not only can you not spell, but your sentence structure is bizarre.  Try not to use the same word multiple times in the same sentence.  Follow this advice and I'm sure you won't look like an idiot anymore.

patroclus1
patroclus1

I would hope any sane US Senator would see the wisdom in having an energy policy that doesn't depend on fossil fuels for our future energy needs. We just had an ecological disaster in the gulf and you complain about a moratorium on deep sea drilling? Oh, and Natural Gas is set to peak in the next decade. Natural gas production by fracking is already wreaking environmental havoc.

But that's right, you're dismissive of any environmental concerns. I bet you don't believe in germs or other things you can't see.

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Your ignorance is not bliss. You assume I mean oil. The very charts for US Energy has charted 22 Trillion in NatGas that is ready to tap. Why has Amy Klobuchar not gotten behind the Pickens Plan? We have tremendous oil to be surveyed which US Energy is not allowed to survey in East Coast, California, Alaska and outer Gulf. Klobuchar is not a fool but she is not a leader. We need more leaders wanting to exploit our own resources for US! 

patroclus1
patroclus1

Your response is laughable. The US Energy Information Administration has charted the yields from US oil fields and it shows we've declined in output. Whose fault is that? Certainly not the government? After all, YOUR hard earned tax dollars are going to incentivize oil companies to produce gas. But what do they do? They find oil fields under the gulf and cap them rather than tapping them.

As for your Sen. Klobuchar, I have no opinion other than she hasn't made a fool of herself nationally as Ms. Bachman has. As for the environmental movement, it is about getting to sources of energy that don't destroy our habitat. Something you seem not to be able to comprehend. Not surprising since you seem to think civilization doesn't cost anything.

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