Police Chief Tim Dolan scorns "shoot first" bill: "Don't be naive"

• The public police force you mention has a strong penchant for increasing the "police state".  I believe that is what he is referring to.

• "capable of retraining a weapon"  How do you retrain a weapon.  You can retrain people but guns just do nothing.  We should not fear the government, the government should fear us.

• Here in PA, there will soon be an expansion of the Castle Defense. It will allow standing your ground against an attacker any place a person has a legal right to be, and provide general immunity against criminal or civil charges. Can you imagine if the MN big city yahoos were faced with that? How they would be howling? 

• such laws exist in many states already and each was preceeded by prophesy of death and destruction that never happened though there have been cases of innocents being able to save themselves because of them. 

• Conceal carry holders don't have ND because they would go to jail. Cops just ge additional training 

• " The most well trained people in the United States with guns are your police..." I would like to know how many negligent discharges his department has had in the last few years.  And yes I mean negligent.  There is no such thing as an accidental discharge of a weapon. I would also like to see that number of NDs by police compared to those of licensed to carry a handgun.

•  Your definition of socialism is having a public police force? Or is it just a word you throw on to anything you hate, which I have a feeling is a lot of things.

•  Figure it out silly. A gun is generally empty after you fire all of the ammo in it into an attacker.

• Do you know what happens when laws like these pass? Absolutely nothing, except criminals now avoid invading occupied homes. No blood in the streets or home shootouts. Nothing. Just criminal;s quietly switching to unoccupied daylight burglaries. When are these retards going to drop the doom rhetoric? Castle doctrine and carry laws cause violence to drop, not escalate, in every single instance where they are enacted.

•  Heh! Ol' Lee Paige is still good for a laugh. He sure did put the lie to "only cops are trained enough..." Did you know that he's the "godfather" of David Codrea's "Only Ones" files?

• If anyone wants a good laugh and to see the truth about "The most well trained people in the United States with guns are your police". Google "cop shoot gun in classroom" and watch the video of the cop telling the class "I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle this gun" at which point he fires a loaded gun in the room with a bunch of kids and hits himself in the leg.

• These are the same people who said MN was going to turn into the Wild West when we passed the MN CCW laws. Of course they were wrong then just like they are now. As for police are the most trained with a gun in the United States, that is the most laughable piece of BS I have ever heard.

• For the officers shot at while serving a warrant, or executing a raid, were those not actual criminals who did fired on them? They'll have their guns and shoot at you anyway, law or no law. And what if it was the wrong house, mine, for instance, that you uniformed apes smashed into, waving your guns at me? In that scenario, Sir, none of you are my friends. None of you are policemen. You are my enemy. Screw the socialist "public safety"; you just violated the hell out of MY safety, which is far more important to me. By the way, did you know that if you compare cops to armed citizens, you cops shoot the wrong person five times more often than the armed citizen does? And I'm supposed to feel safe when you're banging on my door?

• In outstate minnesota - most Sheriff's agree: Home owners need to have at least a shotgun. The more law abiding citizens that are armed the better! Dolan is a tool and not elected. That is the problem. Too much elite socialism. I will gladly shoot any intruder in my home, unless the machete is closer!  

• Nothing but a fight for POWER AND CONTROL, and the police love their position of power and control. Didn't a cop just shoot another cop, in Coon Rapids during training?  Ya, they have it all under control. Either all law abiding citizens should all have guns (including cops), or no one should have guns including the cops. Enough of this elitist bullshit, where one party has privilege, while others don't!

• If Dolan thinks being gunless is the safest way then maybe the police should be gunless too. Then we could all be safe. Possibly Cornish's bill goes too far but the way it is now, in order to protect yourself from prosecution, you almost have to give the intruder the first shot; not too smart when there will probably only be one shot. It's insane when women and the frail can't defend themselves from harm. If Dolan is so concerned about police safety maybe he should consider that any hoodlum taken off the streets by a citizen defending themselves is one less hoodlum that might murder a cop.  

•  Why in the world would you carry an empty gun? 

• "The most well trained people in the United States with guns are your police". Is that why you are 5 times more likely to be shot by a cop than a permit holder? How about that chief? And if some micreant does get my gun, he'll have to beat me with it because it will be empty.

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