Bachmann pledge: Black families were better off during slavery than they are under Obama

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Not pictured: The rest of America shaking its head in disbelief.
Michele Bachmann thinks that black families were better off during slavery than they are now.

The pledge from Iowa's conservative FAMiLY LEADER group that Bachmann signed yesterday is full of all kinds of wacky stuff -- Shariah law! Porn! Protect soldiers from showering with gays! -- but nothing more absurd than the clause about black family life.

Not only is the statement that black families were more stable during slavery than today ridiculous and insulting on its face, it's also already been proved inaccurate. 

In a section of the pledge meant to show that marriage is in a "crisis," the first bullet point reads:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President."

Even for Bachmann, this is shockingly ignorant. Let's parse.

"African-American families"? As in the families that were broken up and sold to different slave owners?

"Two-parent"? Like the female slave and the white master who raped her?

"Household"? Do you mean the wood shacks out back where slaves lived? 

It's also not even true. The statement is footnoted to an academic paper called "The Consequences of Marriage for African Americans: A Comprehensive Literature Review."

Nate Silver actually went and read the paper, and then tweeted:
 

The "source" for the dubious statistic in pledge Bachmann signed comes from here. It refers to 1880-1910, not slavery. http://t.co/l5iR8WAless than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply


Oops. So, the pledge Bachmann signed was hugely insensitive, culturally ignorant and provably wrong. Yeah that sounds about right.

Download and read the whole crazy pledge request by clicking here.

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single mothers help

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Amadeus332
Amadeus332

Michele Bachmann plays 'Scrambled O'HareDuh" in "Passing The Wind"....a vip special showing for Negros only at your nearest KKK Lodge.

gary,indiana
gary,indiana

And white men sleep with there kids in the country...fuck michele bachmann.

gary,indiana
gary,indiana

Fuck that white bitch,fuck michele bachmann raciest bitch.

Kjloftus13
Kjloftus13

how in hell can anyone take this feeble-minded twit seriously?.....she actually thinks she has the 'right stuff'' to run the country......it's about time that the media stops allowing aspirants like bachmann to run willy nilly with the facts.......and it's not like these lies are hard to find....no investigation needed.............blacks better off during slavery than they are now? president obama wants to lose the war on terror...he was born in kenya....he's a muslim? I understand that ailes and fox news will carry a lie as long as they can but the supposed 'liberal media' allowing these absurdities to percolate is infuriating........a bronx cheer for ailes and fox and a 'grow a hair on your ass' for the rest of the 4th estate......(ahhh......unloading is uplifting....thanks...kjl   

Lightning David
Lightning David

@Tom: Well said. The ignorance in this statement sickens me to no extent. I am glad that she is not getting the chance to become President.

Delina Wejdeby
Delina Wejdeby

Seriously.. I do not understand why people can even support this woman in running.. Its the biggest joke of the century..

Lesliecambias
Lesliecambias

She must be good,  if all the liberal loonies are distorting and lying about the she says.  I noticed the picture of her,  selected from probably hundreds,  that make her look goofy,  next to the Glorious Leader,  who is carefully posed to try to look intelligent. I wish that you people would live and work with the "Deserving Poor" as I did - all my life.   They are slackers - at best.

Rufus_T_Firefly
Rufus_T_Firefly

"...if all the liberal loonies are distorting and lying about the she says..."

"She must be good..."

"...look goofy..."

They're not.

She isn't.

You do.

Chef Powell
Chef Powell

Do we really want this person in the White house????. She might want to put us back in slavery. We need to get out and VOTE! get all your papers together so you can register and VOTE!, VOTE!  for the right person.

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

Any "stat' can be justified by some "piece of reserach'. Guess they were hoping that no one would actually look up the facts (or could read). Why don't any of these pol realize that we are now in the 21st century - instant/mass media age -- where any written and audio/video quotes and clips can be found and re-shown.  Ms.  Bachmann,  on "Meet The Press" on the Sunday after her Iowa straw poll win was presented with quotes (with unedited  audio) of things she has said about various topics .. she said that is not wha she meant and everyone knows what she meants and that nothing she saids or has said has any bearing on the fact that she is seeking the off ice of President of the US.(?!!!) Go figure!

Keen
Keen

Human beings these days are sad, stupid, narrow minded creatures. I don't know what's wrong with us. Never did she say that Black families were better of, the media said that.She was trying to prove a point; that even tough black people had it really bad back then, parents still stayed together more then now. Only a first class idiot would interpret it as the writer. Sadly, there are so many these days....Oh yeah, I am a black man. Sad world

jambaman
jambaman

WHAT does your being "a black man" have to do with anything?

ANY comparison made between the status of today's black family and black families during SLAVERY is stupidly flawed, if there is ANY insinuation, that ANYTHING was better during that time.Black people were not better off.White people were not better off.Women were not better off.

AMERICA was not better off.

And DUH, black parents did NOT stay together more then than now.I won't embarrass you by asking for proof of this YOUR STUPID STATEMENT on the matter.

M Bachmann's statements are simply a rehash the same STUPID position that blacks were in any way better off when we had 'masters' to house, feed and clothe us.I remember my white childhood 'friends' first echoing to me what was obviously their parent's and other white adult comments along this line.Even as a child I couldn't believe people actually considered this to be the case.

It is stupid and degrading revisionist history of a time in America's past that deserves NO justification, on ANY level. In any way shape or form.

Oh yes, black American slaves had virtually full employment, with BENEFITS (!), during those halcyon days of the antebellum south.Wasn't that a wonderful time for America?!?

Chef Powell
Chef Powell

How is that? When at time the men were hung to die on a tree! how is that family were still together or their children were sold. That is being much better off. I lost my Husband in 2011 I am a single parent, is that a bad thing too??????

jambaman
jambaman

Your lack of knowledge of this dismal and dark period of American History is astounding.I am HARDLY an expert, or even well read on the subject of the history of American Slavery but your ignorance amazes even me!

1) I guess you are referring to lynchings when you say "men were hung to die on a tree".You should learn MUCH more about the REALITY of lynchings.Lynchings were not EVEN the simple scenario you propose here - a lynching involved an all night tortuous affair beginning with the fear and terror of knowing this person or that was liable to be lynched. That often no one knew WHO would be lynched - only that SOMEBODY was going to be lynched.The lynching involved an all day/night affair to include bystander/supporters that would gather to witness and support the event.This event included prolonged and systematic TORTURE to include the southern favorite - castration.Not content with mere castration, parties were free to and encouraged to come up and dismember the hapless and bound individual, taking away with them gruesome TROPHIES of the lynched person's body parts.Being "hung to die on a tree" would be a relief by comparison.

The final death and burning of the body was left hanging as a terroristic threat for other blacks to consider.

I believe the historical evidence will show that lynchings were much more prevalent AFTER slavery.During slavery, troublesome slaves were "sold up the river", not LYNCHED!They were a valuable possession after all!A PAID for piece of property.

Illegal 'mob style' lynchings of black Americans continued right up through the 1960's if you check the history.

Would you DESTROY a car that wasn't working properly, or sell it off to an unsuspecting buyer?Would you even allow people to come on  your property, take your personal possession - a slave, and destroy it?

Lynchings, as I understand it, were a POST slavery tactic, used to keep N's in their place.A US home grown TERRORIST tactic!

2) HOW on earth is a family "still together" when their children are being sold? WHAT type of husband wife relationship existed when the white master had unfettered sexual access to your WIFE? Unfettered sexual access to your own children? And subjected to indescribable sexual and other perversions of your master.How is ANY of this "being much better off" than today?

3) You OFFEND ME, black people in general, and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA by trying to make ANY comparison between "losing your husband" some months ago and the horrendous historical and current impact of US Slavery!You are a single parent, and you want to compare that to black people's experience of SLAVERY???

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

Again -- People who can read and think for themselves can come to their own concludions about the topic in this article.  That said -- The writer of this article and the vast majority of writers here are questioning the "implied meaning' of the "facts"  as presented by the source mateiral that Ms. Bachmann quotes. Any "stat" is provable only to  the extend that you wish to accept it as provable (and what you decide not to accept).  Yes, it is a fact far fewer black  couples  broke up their marriages (if they were even legally married) before the Civil War. (and again, if the slave owners  allowed them to be together i this first place) -- But again it is a flawed stat. Here is a FACT for you: Less people died in plane crashs in the years before the Civil War  than the during the Reagan presidency --  It's a FACT!!!

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

By the way... Wasn't this whole article more of a "op-ed" piece about someting Ms. Bachmann said -- and ot a straight news story???

Weeb Young
Weeb Young

" ...black families were better off during slavery than they are now" is a prime example of exacerbated demagoguery carried to the nth degree!

3WE3RE3
3WE3RE3

I guess to Michelle Bachman , being chained so you  can't get away is a sign of family unity.She is so determined to accept anything that the religious come up with or advocate.I wonder what her attitude about life and sex and other worldly subjects would be if she didn;t PRACTICE BIRTH CONTROL and stayed home taking care of a new child every 12, 16, 18, months let alone that perverted sex practice created by God or is it Satan  that she has to practice to please Marcus? Is it always on her back? What is perverted to her.?It's easy to refer to   sex when you don't have to actually explain your   beliefs and practicesspecifically. as long as the voting public hears the candidate say the general term, he's explained it as far as they care and need to know his real position. That is why  when they are elected, we feel we've been deceived by them.

Danielle Robison
Danielle Robison

what the HELL?!?!?! how ignorant and horrible are people today? doesn't matter what color you are if you are an ignorant ass then you are an ignorant ass and it really sucks that the majority of the most ignorant asses are the ones that seem to have some sort of governmental power...

Jdenapol
Jdenapol

If this moronic bigot gets elected, I'm out of here. She is an embarrassment to Americans. She is an embarrassment to the human race...

bkisses08
bkisses08

she is frigin nuts ok.. and if people cant see this they need their head examined

Spokenx
Spokenx

That's just like saying , America , was better off when , Osama Bin Laden , was at the height of his powerful abilities to blow the flesh off the average American ass! ' Spoken Word Poetry Mall ' playing now on http://www.spokenwordpoetrymal...

Angie
Angie

Citypages: "hugely insensitive, culturally ignorant and provably wrong". Yeah that sounds about right.

Trottinon117
Trottinon117

Journalists like Mike have a responsibility to the American people---it is called writing the TRUTH. Regardless of their personal opinion when a journalist compromises facts, distorts truth, creates havoc and animosity with purposeful intent, the result is an abuse of power called injustice. INJUSTICE!

~Trot

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

@Trot ~Ii find it interesting they you are so concerned about "The TRUTH" -- but hate when it isactually  said or written here. Your "TRUTH" ios not fact, my friend.  Sorry if reality is hard for you to deal with. 

pghlady
pghlady

"the truth"  is that michelle bachmann is a racist, bigoted, homophobic white woman.  that is the truth. 

Tom Oldani
Tom Oldani

Michelle Bachman's just desperate and will sign anything if she thinks it'll help her case in the primaries.  Thankfully, nothing in heaven or on earth will.  Go Michelle!  As in go.  Disappear from the public eye, ideally forever.  And take your less-successful clone Sarah with you.

Trottinon117
Trottinon117

Where did Mike learn to read???? Ohhhh yea, I see that he can read between the lines through out ridiculous questions that had nothing to do with the bullet point. What I read is a historical and present fact. Mike you are distorting facts here, just like many journalists, sad to say, where in the hell do you draw the conclusion Bachmann is stating these Americans were better as SLAVES? ! She doesn't. Her point is clear and valid---with our first "black skinned" American president, people of color during times of slavery, were being raised more than not by two parents versus not today.

~Trot. MN 

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

SAgain, that facts do not support Ms. Bachmann's position and "Trot here -- while a good writer   -- is not a fair one. Like Bachmann this writer only sees "facts' as he want them to be -- and "cherry-picks" how you should read what he writes. 

Guest000
Guest000

Trot, relax. We all die in the end anyway. Let's make it as easy as possible until we get there. Jeez.

Cousar_earl
Cousar_earl

Her point is still idiotic,slaves did'nt have it good at all! Mr.Obama did'nt create single family households,matter of fact the reason a lot of blacks split up was because bush made it so hard for everyone to get by.Be it white,or black,no women wanted to take care of an unempoyled spouse.So don't blame all this mess on Mr.Obama when he had nothing to do but try and make the same promises this wacko is promising!

Guest1
Guest1

I understand her reasoning

Wildcreed1
Wildcreed1

They just keep on embarrassing Minnesota and Republicans, both MB and TP, Facts mean nothing .It's whom has the shinest objects to distract the audience that wins!! I can't believe anyone takes these two candiates seriously!!!!!

Trottinon117
Trottinon117

I reside in MN and am not embarassed at all by Bachmann. It is Mike Cullen who is a prime example of journalistic injustice and extreme error. His conclusions were based on speculation, distortion and bias. Journalists have an obligation, a responsibility to write the TRUTH, not opinion. What a travesty when fellow Americans believe an opinion versus what was exactly written right in front of their eyes! When our country continues to wallow in deception not only are we deceived as a people, we become the blind following the corruption of power.

~Trot 

Rufus_T_Firefly
Rufus_T_Firefly

You should be embarrassed. She's nuttier than squirrel turds.

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

Wow -- you write pretty well for someone who has no idea what they are writing!

green23
green23

This is a BLOG, you cretin.

Benhei
Benhei

so you're admitting the article above is a complete departure from the truth, designed to enrage the ignorant followers of Obama and socialism.  Good to know! 

Eric Lee
Eric Lee

Any civilize black person who votes for Bachmann, should be lynched. And Im dead serious.

Bring back Jesse
Bring back Jesse

Obama-Hitler, anybody against them should be lynched.  Right?  Ya better vote the commie out or you will get 18 years in jail for speaking out.

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

@ Bring back Jesse" ~ LOL -- you are @#&*%$ funny - great "dumb-ass' act. I am sure no one couls be this dumb for real!

Rufus_T_Firefly
Rufus_T_Firefly

Please don't force him to prove you wrong. His comment reeks of Michele Bachmann-level stupidity.

Tk2xchamp
Tk2xchamp

Slave families were not as intact as you would like to believe. Especially when slaves were put on the auction block and sold away from their loved ones on a regular basis.  My question to Ms. Bachmann is simple.  How the fuck would you know?

ViaChicago
ViaChicago

Notice.....she will not be the Republican choice in 2012. In the mean time she is going to make herself un-electable even in her curiosity of a district. Scratching my head about why she wasn't challenged or vetted by her opponents or constituents, until now that is. 

Rick and Alice
Rick and Alice

Is Obama paying her for this PR?  Come on, Michelle is is biggest selling point right now. 

You can have Obama, or batshit crazy, your choice

The Painful Truth
The Painful Truth

Nothing will assure President Obama;s re-election more than Ms. bachmann being his rival in 2012.  Even if his poll numbers drop -- he can not lose. This lady is cateingonly yo a small group (who would not vote for Obama in any case) -- She is too self-delutedd and her own party is well aware of it.

Beyond The Spectrum
Beyond The Spectrum

It doesn't really matter, at least to the public at large.  Its only black people she's making insensitive remarks about...and you know how much THEY complain...  Now if it were a comment about how the Jewish-American children fared better under the Holocaust in some way, her political career would be over.  Funny how selective American tolerance for dumb statements is.

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