Bachmann thinks poor people need to pay income taxes [VIDEO]

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Michele Bachmann, fighting against the little man.
Michele Bachmann despises taxes, but apparently she likes poor people even less.

At a campaign event in South Carolina yesterday, Bachmann was asked a question about why corporations get away with not paying their taxes. An earnest man, who quoted the Bible in framing his question, wondered what Bachmann would do about corporations that pay "very few dollars of federal income taxes, if any."

Bachmann's response is astonishing. She doesn't think that oil companies or hedge funds hiring teams of lawyers to skip through tax loopholes is the problem.

The real problem, Bachmann says, is that janitors, McDonald's fry cooks and farm laborers aren't paying taxes on the tiny incomes they make.

In lamenting what she calls the "job-killing tax code," Bachmann points the finger at all these poverty-stricken people living it up, spending their minimum wage on slices of American cheese and Wonder Bread.

"Part of the problem is today, only 53 percent pay any federal income tax at all -- 47 percent pay nothing," Bachmann says. "We need to broaden the base so that everybody pays something, even if it's a dollar."

You hear that, poor people? Get out your dollar, even if it's the only one you've got.




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Android Guy
Android Guy

Michele Bachmann is a nut case. She doesn’t have any common sense.

single parenting facts
single parenting facts

I think it's not a good decision as poor are working hard day and night so that they can easily raise their family and some times they have to sleep with out food as they can't afford it.

LD
LD

it was george bush that took them off the incomes tax, do liberals now support the policies of Bush? seems so.

Jared T Simpson
Jared T Simpson

one more thing i think for people who do work and are trying but strugling should get goverment assistance but people who just are lazy and sit on the couch and there isnt a damn thing wrong with them cut em off. tell them if they dont get a job in a sertain amount of time then they will know longer recieve assistance if they are physicaly or mentaly disabled then thats differant but lazy is not a disability now if the goverment wants to stimulate the economy quick than they should give every us citizen that has made at least 10.000 dollars for the year a tax break of like 2000.00 and we would spend that shit fast and stimulate but that wont happen. but its ok for presidents senators mayors and other political people to have millions of dollars for them selfs why dont they share with us. 

Guest
Guest

I don't see what the problem is here. Everyone SHOULD pay taxes, even if it's just a very small amount. It puts us all as Americans on the same team rather than opposing teams as it is now - those who give and those who take. It's very easy to vote for the candidate that will give you someone else's money, while you contribute nothing.

Nick
Nick

I dont think that anyone should control more private property than anyone else. Those who are wealthy should join the working class or die.

3WE3RE3
3WE3RE3

Why does't Michelle Bachman proclaim she is a Conservative. She seems to love and hate the same things.Conservatives do.That way she would'nt have to be always opening her mouth.to accept everyone's position that she thinks will get her a vote..

Stoneskyman
Stoneskyman

Doesnt every 1 pay taxes when ever it is some 1 buys something - If I collected welfare I am sure I would pay taxes like or not, even if it a bag of chips or a small pop - 1 thing I do know is that these politions here in MN do like to raise the prices and TAX on smokes, Why not up the price on Alcohol products for once

Jerho7
Jerho7

Whats wrong with what she's proposing?  If everybody pays the same percentage of their income then that seems the fair thing to do ie someone makes 5000 vs someone who makes 50000 it shouldn't matter.  If someone is only making 5000/yr then their food, housing and medical is paid for which brings their income up around 20,000/yr.

East Coast Doug
East Coast Doug

If 'the poor' have money for DirectTV, smoking, booze, drugs, fast food, junk food - they have the money to pay taxes.

r dgls
r dgls

Pointing to a story that does the extra work, would suffice for pulling in (and informing) those not familiar with the Tea Party policies in action (as they are still relatively new to some).

r dgls
r dgls

While I agree this rhetoric needs a translation, and the above interpretation is probably what she really means. I don't agree this is what she actually said. It's tough to report honestly on the topic. If I were logging a report and going for accuracy (so called fair and balanced) I'd be forced to talk mostly about what she said and then assign meaning by matching her words to trends and deeds relative to Tea Party actions and job killing legislation she backed historically.

The problem is that it is that she avoided the issue and couched her response in evasive, misleading rhetoric pointing attention to the "job killing" taxes brand and exagerrated pointless beuracracy in order to mask her pro power, anti-American dream doctrine. So, basically I agree but the story needs to go longer and deal with a broader more fact-charting method to get beyond this heavy editorialization and sensationalism found in Internet news.  You can editorialize, but I want to see more fact mapping to prove accuracy of claims.

Ben426ji
Ben426ji

besides.. at least here the group present seemed to be satisfied with her answer and I doubt they would applaud like that if the man's question was answered in a way that he disagreed

Ben426ji
Ben426ji

i fail to see where she actually said poor people need to pay income taxes....  don't make stuff up to promote your political agenda.  You can disagree with what she said but to give the video a misleading title.  I'm not trying to support or discredit any party or candidate but I just would appreciate not putting words in people's mouths.

TruthSayer
TruthSayer

The Underlings of Society are so often their "Own Worst Enemies." So many Americans have lost so much of their will to survive, adapt, improvise and overcome. They sure have figured out how to stick their hands out and ask for a freebie at my and every other taxpayer's expense.I have a business "On the Avenue" in Minneapolis and the last couple have years have seen an explosion in "down and outers" crawling around. Their presence has deteriorated the standard of living in Minneapolis. It might be time for Government Relocation Camps. I'm personally sick of the "poor" who always seem to find money for cigs, alcohol and other vices. To hell with them!

LeilaM
LeilaM

this woman is a total idiot and is giving us all a migraine and coporate welfare is a huge problem and they we should go after first but have to say the earned income tax credit is a joke...it's called mother's day around here, they get the huge tax refund for basically working little pt jobs to supplement what they already receive from the government and the kid's fathers and the electronics, cars (down payments, even purchasing) and furniture stores go wild...not the biggest problem but of course it is easier to be angry with the poor than huge corporations, remember ronald reagan and the little old lady food stamp story he basically got elected with that story...

CHRISTvsWARHOL
CHRISTvsWARHOL

Yikes - who writes the headlines here?  Where on earth did she say she wanted "poor people to pay more income taxes?"  -  Over half this article is putting words in her mouth - Am I just getting too old, or has City Pages turned into another version of The Onion?

Look - City Pages staff - If you are trying to hurt Michelle Bachmann's campaign by continually making up stories about her - you are doing the same things she is doing on the trail - and you've lost all credibility with me - there is no one on the planet with more hatred towards politicians like Michelle Bachmann and the racist party - but you now have me feeling sorry for her -  DO YOUR FREAKIN' HOMEWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAinMN
LAinMN

I would have to agree and I am a LIBERAL, Native American, woman!  When you contribute to a system instead of always getting handouts, you are invested!  That could be the education system, our streets, ultimately our communities!  Earned income is for business america, they know every dollar the feds. hand out goes right into their pockets.  Subsidized housing should have limits just like welfare, I know subsidized communities have 3 generations believing it is the governments job to put a roof over their heads!

not as dumb as  you
not as dumb as you

I would agree that poor people should pay taxes. And I would go along with this if you abolished the minimum wage and replaced it with a liveable wage. I would also like them to have the same access to tax lawyers as GE or any other mufti-billion dollar corporation does (that doesn't pay taxes). Fair is fair right?

Jawol
Jawol

Kirk, Maybe you should spend less time on comment boards and more time working... isn't that what the conservative philosophy preaches?

TJSWIFT
TJSWIFT

Behind the predictable leftist hysterics, Bachmann has a point. It is completely understandable for people to clambor for handouts they have no expectations of having to provide for someone else.

So yes, get your dollars out...Everyone should have some "skin" in the tax game; everyone. 

Johnny
Johnny

Note that over the past 45 years the Dems have hijacked the New Deal and it's once-vital safety net and turned it into the Modern Plantation System.  It's almost impossible to re-enter productive society once the MPS has it's hooks into you and your family.

Erika Marker
Erika Marker

I just cant understand how anyone that has actually listened to her speak can still think she is intelligent. 

Greg
Greg

Why is it that Everything this woman is into makes me think of a Pyramid scam,,,,the ones on top reap the benefits, the ones on the bottom provide the means.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Lot of really sad, and border line stupid people up in here!Have you morons not been listening to the cries of the poor?They have been saying the same thing for years.Or have you simply been ignoring the cries of the poor?

Make them pay their fair share the poor say.

Have you not been listening?

Make them pay their fair share.

Apparently Michele has much better comprehension abilities then the majority of liberals, because the poor pay nothing.  They get paid.  They shouldn't ask for the rich to "pay their fair share" when they themselves pay nothing.  Parasites of society shouldn't throwing stones.  Michele is simply giving them (the poor) what have been asking for.Make them pay their fair share!

Everyone should pay something, even if it's only a penny.  Otherwise you are a parasite living of the hard work of someone else.  And thus, you should NEVER ask someone else to "pay their fair share", while you contribute NOTHING.

Tapeworms everywhere....

Jared T Simpson
Jared T Simpson

every one should pay taxes rich and poor same exact amount as far as eic for your kids i think it should be balanced out only get back what you provide for your kids for the year i am a father of two and although i enjoy a nice big tax check i do belive that fair is fair i think though rich people should pay taxes for a while and they should let the little guy slide only because the rich have evaded taxes for years so they dont evan help stimulate its all on us the little guy yeah they provide jobs to us but we are people and so are they so why should we suffer whlle they live it big. some of them erned it yes but some of them was fortunate enough to win the ginetic lottery where is my lottery iam 29 years old i have worked since i was 15years old. where is my break? i will never see it. but thats life i guess as far as every one arguing back in forth on here why argue dont argue unite so we can all be treated equal. 

Guest
Guest

Most people who are wealthy work extremely hard. Your post is offensive.

Guest
Guest

The problem with a flat tax rate is that it would affect people in different income levels very differently. If it were a 10% flat rate, a person making 1 million would pay 100,000, while a person making 30,000 would pay 3000. The 3,000 affects the poorer person much more while the millionaire still has more than enough to pay for daily, monthly, and yearly essentials. Income distribution is so skewed that the extremely wealthy could continue to hoard untold millions while those barely getting by are forced to shoulder more of the burden, although they economically benefit less from the government designed to increase profits of large business owners. In short, the poor don't have the money to pay our bills, but the wealthy (making money from government subsidies, environmental deregulation, dishonest oil speculation, and a legal system the favors corporate rights over individual freedom) have more than enough.

Guest
Guest

You don't know much about Hitler, do you?

swampfox26
swampfox26

Go to 3:03 on the video and listen to her say that everyone should pay something.

green23
green23

Ben426ji wrote:"i fail to see where she actually said poor people need to pay income taxes.... "

From the post:"Part of the problem is today, only 53 percent pay any federal income tax at all -- 47 percent pay nothing," Bachmann says. "We need to broaden the base so that everybody pays something, even if it's a dollar."

That is where she said that poor people need to pay income taxes. "Everybody" includes the poor.Of course, the working poor DO pay payroll taxes, which is what most people think of when they hear the words "income tax".

The Bush tax cuts are still in effect, and they aren't creating jobs. That is because the tax rates really don't show a strong correlation to job growth. Corporate America is sitting on $2 trillion, and they aren't investing it. They aren't short on cash because taxes are killing them. Rather, they are effectively "on strike" for a better deal. The underlying issue is that the job market has changed (due to automation and the need for higher, specific skills), so it is doubtful that the corporations can even deliver if their "demands" are met.

Most of what are seeing as "job growth" is really just poaching jobs from one State and moving them to another, while new jobs are being sent to other countries.

swampfox26
swampfox26

Go to 3:03 on the video and listen to her say that everyone should pay something.That says the poor should pay income taxes, even if they have very little income.

JonnyBgood2me
JonnyBgood2me

can we impose limits on subsidiaries to oil companies then too? i.e. total y amount of subsidiaries paid and once taken no corporation can get more?

David Foureyes
David Foureyes

Then he wouldn't be able to use the poor station he's put himself in as a defense for his retardation.

It's the same reason I don't use Facebook...so that when people complain about it, I can boast about not using it despite knowing the obvious benefits...well, except using Facebook does't actually MEAN anything...getting an education and working hard actually do.

zerofor
zerofor

I'd imagine that if some folks had to pay a small enough amount, it would actually cost more than the taxes they paid to process said taxes.

David Foureyes
David Foureyes

Can someone please make a comparison between something they perceive as bad and gay people so we can witness the CP bigot hat trick?

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Cute little talking point you have there.  Any facts or figures to with the tripe you're trying to get me to swallow? don't the ones on "top" also provide all the jobs and security to those on "bottom"?

Personally I am very appreciative of my "rich" boss for providing me on the "bottom" a job.I wouldn't enjoy his position, having to work 60-70 hours a week.

guest
guest

Economists have said for a single person to live, JUST ENOUGH to get by on minimum wage, minimum wage would have to be more than doubled. To have a family, tripled. So yes, the poor are saying everyone has to help out. They are helping enough being forced to work a job that doesn't pay a living wage so those on top can rake it in. They get paid, but get paid poorly.

I can understand that she thinks everyone should have to pay in, sure. Fine. Even if its one dollar. But to say that it has nothing to do with oil tax breaks and GE contributing NOTHING? To say Michele Bachmann has a higher level of comprehension than most liberals when she is a national joke and widely recognized as a crazy person who wants to drive this country back to surfs and lords is just trying to get under people's skin. I have to hope someone who seems as well informed as you is just trying to get a response.

You have the right to your opinion. I would like you to make it without trolling the internet.

If you are not, my apologies for assuming you have a higher intellect than you actually do.

Tapeworm
Tapeworm

Well, here in Minnesota anyway, we have a sales tax. On things like satellite dishes and fancy cars. A sales tax that proportionally takes a much bigger bite out of the income of the poor. We also have a property tax. And mine, as an example, is about to go up by a third primarily because my legislature shut down the government rather than raise taxes on the top .03% of Minnesotans. So the poor don't exactly "pay nothing" wouldn't you agree.

SpendSome$$
SpendSome$$

I believe the parasites are those that are on welfare and unemployment because they are lazy. Also, the rich who hoard all of our money instead of putting it back into the economy. It's not their money to keep, it needs to be spent! That's the only way our economy can keep going, if people spend money. Why don't these top 2% of people who have over 50% of the money in the U.S. spend some of that shit and we can all benefit.

jww
jww

I'm sure your boss loves the amount of time you spend on here being an asshole while he is paying the wage that you complained abount in an earlier post (remember the one about how you aren't rich yet).  But maybe he does like it, since it might distract you from being an asshole to all of the people around you at work. 

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

You forgot to mention the tax rebate they received which hugely outweighed any taxes in which the payed throughout the year.    And watch that check grow substantially if the have any children, even though those people are the ones that consume the most government services.

Are you suggesting we take away the rebate check they received?

Am I not seeing something, and missing how they are exempted from, "paying their fair share"?

Oh BTW, your property taxes went up because your local government refuses to cut back when money is tight. They also view you as a sucker in which they chose to sock it to. The state did not raise your LOCAL TAXES.Local government greed did.

guest
guest

You know what I am one of those parasites! I am on unemployemnt, for the last 6 wks., haven't seriously began my job search and don't plan on it until next spring.  The rich spending the money, is interesting??? Remember the childhood game Monopoly??? The rich have monopolized the ability to be super rich! Bottom Line, we are just worker bees.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

When you say spend some of that money, what do you mean?

If there were a class we could all take called "Marxism/Communism 101", lesson number one would be the brainwashing of the class to believe:It's not their money to keep, it needs to be spent!

They didn't steel it

Hey, maybe we should take all the money from the "rich", and stuff the money hoarders onto boxcars destined for a distant camp.  Oh wait, I think that has been tried. (1930's Germany) What was the outcome?

jww
jww

I don't have a vested interest in the collapse of goverment...but I wouldn't mind if certain members of congress were swept away in a flood.

I don't work for the goverment and have said on here, more than once, that it wouldn't bother me much if my income taxes were raised to where they were under the Clinton Admin.

I donate a fair amount of time and money to the kinds of communities and people you openly despise on here.  Does that fit your definition of sacrifice.  Or, like you, am I fulfilling my duty by coming on here and ranting about taxes?

Chris
Chris

Kirk,

Aren't you also living outside of your means by owning a "fairly nice home, (sic) in a nice neighborhood" while struggling to pay your bills (not to mention, needing bailouts by means of the "generosity of certain friends and family")?

jww
jww

Oh BTW, your hero Tim Pawlenty took away this aid to local gov't so he was able to balance the budget with one of his magical accounting shifts.  That way the state didn't have to cut costs and they were able to transfer that burden, ultimately, to property owners at the local level.  So, by proxy, the state did raise peoples' taxes...thus making MY POINT perfectly, you dunce.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Whoa buddy!

I said local government can not live within it's means.and you said-"Oh BTW, from 2002 to 2008 state aid to local government dropped $2.4 billion and cities raised property taxes by $2.7 billion...mostly to compensate for those cuts."

Thus making my point perfectly!Even though local governments "pay check" was cut, they increased their level of spending. 

If you or I, did this in our personal lives, we would be looked as insane!  And when we end up filing for bankruptcy, it would be due to our own mental disorder in relation to spending.

WTF entitles a local government to increase spending year after year despite it's income.Do we need all government leaders to take some sort of financial counseling course?

I personally am not sure what we can do to stop it.  That government pig is greased and it almost impossible to grab hold of it especially when people like yourself support the continuation of government spending outside it's means.

Do you have a vested interest in the fiscal collapse of our country?Do you work for the government, and refuse to make any personal sacrifice?Even Obama said "we all need to make sacrifice".  Is this not to include government?

jww
jww

Oh BTW, from 2002 to 2008 state aid to local government dropped $2.4 billion and cities raised property taxes by $2.7 billion...mostly to compensate for those cuts.

guest
guest

steal* Steel is something we can touch, steal is something we do.

David Foureyes
David Foureyes

Heh...I was wondering why you were poor and conservative...now I see you must be absolutely unemployable. The only people who are allowed to make holocaust jokes and have money are those that earned it on the backs of people like you.

I suppose you'll look up from your death bed (20 year old Saturn you fall asleep at the wheel of) and put it all together just in time to say, "awww crap, I think I see what happened there...I forgot to carry the one"

vitajex
vitajex

Holy Anti-Semitism, Batman!  Seriously, Kirk, you better watch that shit.  That's pretty revealing about your view of Jewish people.

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