Minnesota government shuts down [UPDATES]

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The barely-concealed contempt with which Republicans and DFL lawmakers now treat each other in St. Paul came to a logical conclusion last night.

Both sides failed to reach a budget agreement to address the state's $5 billion in red ink by midnight, and state government shut down.

Tens of thousands of public employees will now have to do without paychecks, and all manner of government services are being curtailed, with the exception of a few ordered to stay open by a judge.

Read: Minnesota Shutdown: Here's What's Open, Closed

As it has all along, the impasse came down to two competing visions of dealing with the budget deficit. Either cut some spending and then tax the richest Minnesotans a little bit more to make up the difference, as Dayton was elected to do. Or cut state spending on programs that Republicans regard as wasteful but that Democrats view as essential, as GOP legislators were elected to do.

Here's part of what Dayton said in a speech last night, during which Republicans could be heard hissing:

"They would prefer to protect the richest handful of Minnesotans at the expense of everyone else, even at the expense of a state government shutdown. As one Republican legislator told a member of my staff, "We're friends with some of those guys. Instead of taxing their friends, they would prefer very damaging cuts to health care, K-12 and higher education, state and local public safety, mass transit, and other essential services."

Here's GOP House Speaker Kurt Zellers:

"We will not saddle our children and grandchildren with mounds of debts, with promises for funding levels that will not be there in the future," he said. "This is debt that they can't afford. It's debt that we can't afford right now."

And we'll all be treated to a public relations war as lawmakers go home and explain this debacle to their constituents.

The near lock-step discipline with with Republicans simply refuse to consider finding new revenue beyond $34 million already budgeted as been impressive, as the ship of state now runs aground.

But the battle probably reached an all-time low last night when GOP Rep. Pat Garofalo used Twitter to deliver a snark attack worthy of a middle school smart ass:

You can't spell FAILED without DFL! #stribpol #mnlegThu Jun 30 12:53:15 via web

We were even treated to the bizarre sight of former Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who left Minnesota with the $5 billion shortfall, flying home from his presidential campaign so he could stand in front of reporters and insist that insist he had nothing to do the festering mess we're all standing in.

"I applaud the Republicans for standing strong," he said, while the rest of us are left holding the bag.

UPDATE #1: You still have to pay your taxes. [Hat tip: MPR]

The Minnesota Department of Revenue will continue to process tax payments during the state government shutdown. All tax laws and deadlines remain in effect, and taxpayers are reminded of their legal obligation to file returns and pay all taxes when they are due to avoid penalties and interest.

UPDATE #2: The confidential negotiation documents have now been published. [Hat tip: Mary Lahammer]

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Llzellmer
Llzellmer

I am very disappointed that our state representatives are acting like very poor role modles and not grown ups.  As I read in our local paper,  Each party did not want the other party happy, FINE but to publically act like children! Life is a little of giving and taking, but to treat each other as they have been and the names and the behavior is OUTRAGOUS!  I have a child in Youth in Government, and this is not a State I have been proud right especially the negativity.  I is also a state that is not teaching many of us especially our youth many leasons from, except to fight like babies!   I have my beleifs and taking away from our future, THE STUDENTS, in my opion is very wrong!!! 

Let us make changes for all, we all live in MINNESOTA together! I would like to see changes to benifit all of us and better all of us.  With this shut down who is ?  We have to be loosing money daily with the lottery being shut down!  LET US ALL DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!!!!!!

Adan_ramos08
Adan_ramos08

the real issue hear are the working families are with out jobs just because to different people from congress don,t agree on something the rest of the word are paying the prise and have to stugle to soport there families i realy thing they should just get there act together.

Brianj
Brianj

So all of this because no one can agree. As the rest of the working class have to go to work or try and run a business, we the workers and the business owners have to pay the price again. When will this stop. In the mean time our state is loosing millions of dollars putting us even more in the red. This makes sense. Wow... What would happen if every business in Minnesota shut down for a day or two just because we didnt agree with what was going on or how things are being handled. Where has our freedom gone. Wake up people

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Now Dayton wants a $1 per pack tobacco tax. So much for being progressive.

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Gov Dayton: it is going on a week. Please answer the question? In the Televised debates you promised "Not to shut the government down if you as govenor could not reach a deal with the legislature"! Mark Dayton - Why did you LIE?

Sparky
Sparky

I guess Governor Moonbeam is showing us what a weak executive system gives us.......

Ann EB Steinke
Ann EB Steinke

Unbelievable! The issue is not one of specifics-it's about the inability of a group of professional, highly skilled persons(or are they?) that had one main task, to balance their budget. If it is impossible and they come to an empass, as they have, why don't we have in place,group of equally skilled and professional individuals that step in and moderate a decision. Is it that hard to objectively look at what needs to go, what needs to stay, who is taxed what %? I think not. Its difficult work, I agree, but it should not be difficult to know you need to come to a decision.

It's time to seriously look at what our government is doing to us-the average middle class-to protect the rich. And some of those programs could go-yeah, it's nice to have some one stop and help you if your stranded on the freeway, but not necessary.(for ex)

I assume they are not receiving pay as they are government employees-but i just bet there is some kind of exclusionary law that prevents that. and why? because somehow we have developed into a country that has a very distinct class system that is fully backed by the government. I guess we really have always been that if you think about it.

Don't vote for any incumbants the next time! 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

DAYTON lied in the debate. Dayton said if he could not reach a compromise with the legislature that he (DAYTON) would NOT shut the government down. Mark Dayton why did you LIE? Why do you have NO HONOR? Please answer us Mark Dayton! Why did you lie? lie? lie? lie? On TV no less. WHY MARK?

joe
joe

I'll ask Mn Voter the same thing I asked Kirk -  You'd rather focus on how Dayton lied so you can support and protect those making over 1 mil? What are your thoughts on taxing people that make over 1 mil a year? I doubt you're in that category either.

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Joe: I believe everyone needs to share in the burden (cost) of government - therefore: a flat 6% tax with no credits. The flat tax would be on consumption (food, clothing and everything) and NO INCOME TAX. Stop taxing the producer's and instead focus on the consumption. And Joe what I make is none of your business. That is the problem with liberals (they want to control everything) instead of letting entreprenuers suceed!

Joe I'll ask you, is it ok for a candidate like Dayton to be a boldface liar?

ladybroadoak
ladybroadoak

1. "People making under $20,000 preaty [sic] much pay nothing, and yet they consume the most government services."  MYTH.  In MN, people w/incomes under $11,200 pay 22.1% effective tax rate, source:  MN Dept of Revenue - TRUTH, six billionaires in our state pay effective tax rate of 7.7%.  At $8,200 a year in income, how do you think I feel, mate, when these same Top 2% mostly evade ALL taxes?  The dems fail to mention it, but a full 2/3 pay no tax at all!  Many get REFUNDS despite making billions of dollars.

2. "If the Republicans get their way everyone's property taxes will go up just like they did year after year under Pawlenty."  Precisely. and then we end up with UNELECTED receiverships, just like Michigan.  A shutdown w/an unelected judge was just the beginning.  As communities go bankrupt from the lack of LGA funds, then we get more Pawlenty toadies becoming  the receivers after creating the mess in the first place, ala Michigan!  Undemocracy at work, via the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), Grover Norquist, American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation (amongst others)  Property taxes inevitably fall on SMALL BUSINESS so it's Wall Street versus Main Street when the crunch comes.  Guess which side the Chamber of Commerce came down on here in Minnesota?  

3.  The budget stalemate is NOT the problem - it's a symptom.  If the last budget offer by the GOP didn't tip you off, then nothing will.  The problem is laws being made out of this state and delivered cut and paste style via ALEC, same as the rest of the chaotic states.  Why the voter ID, why gerrymandering, why the INSANE EBT proposal?  Cuz right wing corporations paid ASTOUNDING amounts of PAC money to Zellers, Koch, Michel and others. Goal = rip the guts out of MN resources and people as quickly and as cheaply as possible so that their fat little portfolios grow ever fatter at the expense of the middle class and the poor.  Their (secret) mantra?  "SocialISM for the rich."  You pay; they play.

4.  Name of the solution - MoneyOuttaPolitics.org

5.  US Uncut Minnesota served pink "You're Fired!" slips on GOP legislators on Thursday.  Did you read about it in the press?  NO, save the Pioneer Press. Why?  We served them on the media, too because they had all session to get up to speed on ALEC and the Koch brothers cynical ploys in OUR state but choose not to.  They insult those they see as "less than" themselves and their volvos and saabs.   They are arrogant, rude, and politically illiterate in terms of TODAY.  Never have so few tried to steal so much from the many working poor - and state employees.  The cuts proposed were DRASTIC, and only civil disobedience exposed how bad they were.  More  important to sell papers w/the Vikings stadium non-issue.  (an excellent example of "socialISM for the rich".   Billionaires are grateful to legislators AND the MN Capitol press corps.

6.  The unions, never under threat of right to work laws nor anti-collectivization proposals FAILED to lead or work w/sincere other groups.  

7. The professional poverty industry people were just as pathetic.  They kept stressing that we must accept compromise.  Nice for THEM; they don't face cuts at the top of that pyramid.  I asked Nan Madden if she understood the ALEC role in all this - she admitted she hadn't looked "this year".  Well, if you knew ANYTHING at all about Wisconsin or Michigan or Indiana or New Jersey or just about any other chaotic state that would be your conclusion:  ALEC, as planned for decades, took over the State houses.  WAKE  UP!!

The worst CRIME in MN is being poor, compounded when one is poor and disabled and expecting empathy.

The GOP, managed in this one single session, to propose a way of life that grinds the progressive vision to dust, taking away every gain we ever made.  FOR SHAME!

And the Democrats? They know I speak the truth about ALEC and Grover Norquist, et al. But stay complicitly silent.  

We need a solidarity movement, much dialogue and alot more empathy in this red, red state.  If we don't fight back now, then the next 200 years will be nothing but plutocracy.

USuncutMN.blogspot.comwhich produced the most diverse, honest coalition (even if small) in the past four decades in this state.  Too bad no one could be bothered to tell you about it.  But we're still GROWING.

Jason Dorweiler
Jason Dorweiler

Repub this, demo that...My goodness, you people are no better then those in office. Politicians are going to say whatever they want, to sway the people to get the job, and are therefor all the same. It doesn't matter what side we are on. We all lie don't we? To an extent right? 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

No, we all don't lie! that is the problem with America today, the impression that everyone does everything. We don't all lie. We don't all cheat. We don't all steal. Many of us expect campaign promises to be kept. Many of us have honor which is a thing Mark Dayton doesn't understand or have. He needs to resign for saying in the campaing he would not shut the government down if he could not reach a compromise. The shut down is in his hands to call off. Dayton is a liar and loser. 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Mark Dayton the candidate promised in the TV debates that if he could NOT get his tax increase he would not shut the government down. What a liar. He planned this from the time he was running. I've tried to link the broadcast but the far left liberal monitors on this site are keeping it off. Mark Dayton is a liar, just like the weiner, gov CNN Spitzer, john edwards...

Historian
Historian

Do you want me to list all the conservatives who have lied. Do you have a couple of hours?

Minnesotaguy1001
Minnesotaguy1001

Go right ahead. It is good for everyone to see many of the lies. Just include DAYTON's lies. While I'm at it: JFK needed a coverup to the failed Bay of Pigs so JFK got us into Vietnam and 56,000 solders died. FDR rounded citizens up without warrants. Wilson rounded up citizens without warrants and shoot veterans who were protesting. Clinton lost his law license for perjury.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

MN Voters brain is so small it can only hold the one or two Democrats that have done bad things.   Sad to say but its a proven fact Mn Voter has one of the smallest brains in the history of mankind.    If he tried to remember even 10% of the Republicans that broke the law he would crap his pants and die due to a massive stroke from lack of available brainpower.   

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Fake MB: You are so smart, but again all you can do is destroy: like Dayton, Obama, Weiner. If your so smart: Did Dayton promise in the debate that if he could not reach a compromise, that He DAYTON would not shut the state down?

Mr. Minnesota Nice
Mr. Minnesota Nice

"andthen tax the richest Minnesotans a little bit more to make up the difference,as Dayton was elected to do."

Dayton mayhave made "Tax the richest Minnesotans" his campaign pledge, but letus put the blame squarely where it belongs, on Tom Horner and the Independentparty. If it were not for Mr. Horner and his merry men, we would not be in thispredicament!  Look at the election numbers and abig darn Thank You Mr. Horner!

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

The historian needs a lesson on history. When Dayton was asked if he would shut the government down if he could not get his tax increase, candidate Dayton said "No, he would not shut the government down. He lied. Another liar like Anthony Weiner, John Edwards, Gov CNN Spitzer. Mark Dayton needs to resign for his lies. See Govenor Dayton's remarks here:  http://www.minnesotamajority.o...In his own words. You can't just make this up. Why do democrats always lie?

Historian
Historian

You're right. We would now be in the dark ages with that republican fat guy. I hope rational people have been paying attention to what happens when you overreact in the voting booth. 

Historian
Historian

God bless Tom Horner for saving us from that guy. 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Watch here as Governor Dayton PROMISES to not shut the government down over the budget!He did this in the debate. Dayton the liar. Another democrat liar. Mark Dayton the liar.

http://www.minnesotamajority.o...

SomeGuy
SomeGuy

Are the Republican "leaders" still going to be collecting paychecks like they went to court to secure? I know Dayton said he's not getting paid while the state's workers don't.

Philipwright106
Philipwright106

When I first moved to this state, it worked and was looked at as a leading state .  I cannot say this anymore.  There is no leadership and I dont mean Mr. Dayton.  He at least makes sense.  You have to pay taxes to make a state work.  The rich need to pay their fair share.  Sorry, thats how it works. 

Greg
Greg

Sir  it is great to hear someone who understands and speaks the true facts.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

One other thing that annoys me about this shutdown debate is pretending only Mark Dayton wants to raise taxes.   Mark Dayton just wants to raise taxes on the rich.   If the Republicans get their way everyone's property taxes will go up just like they did year after year under Pawlenty.   All the fees for government services will increase as well.   Just because you call something a fee doesn't mean it isn't really a tax. 

TeaBea
TeaBea

Pretty sad times when, of the two states I call home, California's the one with the (semi-)functional government. 

But as I've said before elsewhere, I'm proud of Dayton for standing strong. I'd rather see a shutdown force something else to get worked out than see him roll over while the Republicans decimate a lot of what makes Minnesota the stand-out state it is. One thing is fact: hack away at education, health care, cops, and transportation, and allow the gap between the rich and the poor to keep expanding (and it's far too big in the MN Metro as it is), and Minnesota loses all competitive edge. I don't get why the GOP doesn't understand that it will be bad for their business buddies if Minnesota turns into a state that's impossible to recruit to for more reasons than just the weather. No one's hauling their families to a state that spends half the year in the single-digits if the schools and hospitals there suck, they can't get anywhere on the terribly maintained and insanely congested roads, there aren't enough cops to keep neighborhoods safe, much less livable, and they have to buy a McMansion some stupid distance away from the city center in order to avoid living in a hovel. There are a lot of attractive features to life in Minnesota, and a lot of those features require maintenance. Not insane spending, not pushing off debt--just maintenance. Everyone needs to pay in their fair share for that. 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

During the debate for govenor, Mark Dayton promised not to shut the government down - over the budget. Another democrat LIE and LIAR!

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Wait one moment.  California is a landmark for liberalism,  liberal ideas and liberal leadership.  Why have they been loosing "their competitive edge"?  People and business have been fleeing California for a while now.  What caused that?and "Everyone needs to pay in their fair share for that"People making under $20,000 preaty much pay nothing, and yet they consume the most government services.  Especially those with kids only making $20,000 a year and get $8,000 in tax rebates (from someone else's money)

Are you proposing everyone pay taxes including the poor?

joe
joe

Kirk, why are you skirting what the article is about? What are your opinions on taxing people that make over 1 million dollars a year? You've stated earlier that you make something around $30,000 a year (I forget the actual number) so I know you're not the target for this high income tax. You'd rather have the state shutdown and people not get paychecks while you support people that make over 1 mil?

Pug
Pug

People making under $20,000 preaty much pay nothing, and yet they consume the most government services.

Well, there you have the makings of a Republican solution:  Tax the poor! 

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

No!I'm pointing the democrats point of "pay their fair share"

Per the IRS:  41% of people paid no federal tax after tax rebates.Over 31% got more back that the paid in.

Sound like a lot of people not paying "their fair share"

Fair share is fair share, or is that a democrat lie?

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Republicans don't understand that because they want to make Minnesota into South Dakota.   High taxes are fine if you spend the money wisely.   Investing in colleges and good public schools make money.   I know the Democrats have flaws but I hope people finally are waking up and realizing that Republicans are utterly incapable of running a successful government.    George W. Bush and Tim Pawlenty are proof of that. 

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Democrats like weinger, dayton and obama. Let's see Weiner lied on TV saying it was not true. Dayton lied in the tv debates saying "he would not shut government down if he could not get his tax increase. Obama received all the money that bush had borrowed to the banks and created a stimulus to bail out the UAW. Obama then gave a tax break to private jet makers in the 2009 stimulus. Obama then gave the NY Wall street hedge funds a break and then Obama gave 1/3 of the stimulus to the richest tax payers in the US. Geez MB wake up and smell the coffee. Dayton lied in the debate and needs to resign.

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