Mark Dayton still wants a new Vikings stadium. Do you? [POLL]

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The Arden Hills stadium would look something like this.
With all the crashing and burning that went on this session at the Capitol, one might presume that a plan to build a new Vikings stadium died the day Minnesota's government shut down.

Not so.

Gov. Mark Dayton says he still wants to build a new stadium, and he'd consider a special session this fall to make it happen.

So for those Minnesotans who feel like their legislators need a little more overtime to sort things out this year, you just might be in luck.

Like every gubernatorial candidate last election, Dayton promised a new Vikings stadium on the campaign trail.

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Gov. Mark Dayton is neutral on the referendum, but wants a stadium plan passed.
The Arden Hills plan fell short of passing the Legislature this session, but Dayton ordered an analysis of the proposal he expects to be complete in October. If Minnesota legislators do convene for yet another special session this year, it will likely be in November when the review is done.

The Ramsey County Charter Commission will meet tonight to discuss the logistics of the Arden Hills location, which is pretty much the only realistic plan on the table right now.

For this to work, Arden Hills residents would have to pay a sales tax to help fund the stadium. The commission will talk about whether this tax increase should be decided by a countywide vote on the 2012 ballot.

The commission isn't listening to public opinion, but the Minnesota Voters Alliance is trying to round up a big audience anyway to support the referendum.

"I'm not pro or anti stadium, because this isn't about stadiums," says Bill Reichert, spokesman for the Minnesota Voters Alliance. "This is about on regulatory body trying to usurp the authority of the other."

Dayton says he's neutral on the referendum, but is set on finding a way to get the stadium done.

So is a new stadium worth all this trouble?




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Iizsmart
Iizsmart

The Arden Hills site has sat empty for over a decade and will sit empty for another decade if they vote for a referendumIt is unfair that only Ramsey County citizens get to determine the outcome for a statewide asset like the VikingsHennepin County did not have a referendum for the Twins stadium and the Vikings deserve to be treated fairly just like the Twins were

kristi
kristi

when all Minnesota's children have access to health care, when our veterans' homes are well staffed and care is the best that can be provided, when we have enough teachers to reduce class sizes to 25 or less, when seniors don't have to decide whether to eat or buy their medications, when we have too many policemen and firemen - when our bridges and roads are repaired and safe, when no one is hungry or homeless, then by all means let us buy a stadium for billionaire owners where millionaires can play a game and where the average family cannot afford tickets 

Ron Gold
Ron Gold

I would also like to add that it seems a shame that we could be missing such a great opportunity if a stadium is now built outside of Minneapolis.  We have the new lightrail infrastructure already in place to bring in people from 3 different directions now in addition to all the new highway systems and bridges already complete and paid for.

Ron Gold
Ron Gold

Please find a way to keep the Vikings in Minneapolis. As an architectural connoisseur, I dislike the current Metrodome and feel that it strongly detracts from the current skyline. I would love to see a retractable roof stadium structure (not a marshmellow) to replace the Metrodome and I'm not even a football fan. Where can I donate to the cause?

Ron Gold

PR Pete
PR Pete

If a new stadium made fiscal sense, people with money would be fighting to get aboard the Zygi Express.  It doesn't and they aren't.  The NFL is awash in money, so let it fund its own playpen. 

bOAT gUY
bOAT gUY

Lets see, 8 home games @ 3 hours each. Let's use 5 hours each for seating, tailgating, leaving the stadium, etc.  That's a 40 hour work week per season (providing they don't get into the playoffs, yuch, yuch).  That's a little different return on the money than the Twins stadium. Ziggy and the players are grossly overpaid, and they want the taxpayers to fund this pipe-dream??  At 10% unemployment??  Are they nuts?  Any other business might get a 10 year tax break if they were moving into town -- not public funding.  When are they going to realize that the TEAM fills Lambeau Field, not the architecture!!  Maybe they should sell stock in the Vikings like the Packers have done, and prevent the franchise from moving FOREVER!

nlc
nlc

Why did the Twins and Gophers deserve a new stadium? You're paying for that! Do you realize how many jobs will be created if a new stadium is built? Something that is desperately needed. If the Vikings don't get a new stadium soon I wouldn't blame the Wilfs one bit if they left Minnesota and moved to a city that would be very happy to have them!!!

David Unowsky
David Unowsky

Try asking this question; will you be happy to pay part of the $600 million in taxes and fees to pay for a Vikings stadium?

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a

How about this - why don't a private equity firm build it, so long as they can profit from it?  or better still, we the people will build it, but we want financials to suggest that it will be profitable?Or the fans themselves, should buy a piece of the team to which funds can be used to build the stadium.F*ck if you are using my tax money to subsidize yet another rich man's fantasy.

webcelt
webcelt

Dayton needs to much better explain what he means by a "people's stadium". I have a guess (though I shouldn't have to guess) he thinking of how much use the Dome gets even with the Twins gone. It doesn't resemble a sardine can outside big events, but it's in use many more days than it isn't. If a stadium was conceived and built to facilitate public use, it could be for all sorts things besides Vikings games. However, I need some persuading an Arden Hills site could get as much use as the Dome, which has all the stadium infrastructure already and is much more accessible.

Bill Crosby
Bill Crosby

I love the Vikings, but see absolutely no reason why my money should go towards something I will NEVER benefit from. Millions will be made in that stadium, but none for the people who funded half of it. We will however get to purchase over priced brats, and beers, as a showing of gratitude for our generosity. If they want to work something into it where I eventually get my contributions back, I'm all for it, but that will never happen...

Tu55u42u8
Tu55u42u8

Wilf and the overpaid players should split the cost themselves. They can all afford it.

PURPLEVIKING
PURPLEVIKING

MINNESOTA Vikings Forever ! Build it and they will STAY!

LA Vikings Fan
LA Vikings Fan

No.  Let the rich brats buy their own stadium for their 100% private business.

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Let Dayton fund it with his own money!

Pcb
Pcb

Just so you know Ramsey county has a law that requires a referendum on sales tax increases. Read this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/6877...

If you feel Ramsey county citizens shouldn't decide the fate of the stadium, then the sales tax increase should be state wide.

As far as how the Twins got there stadium, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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a

Exactly - if private equity firms are not building stadia - there seems to be a notion that it's not a good investment.  If state-wide governments had a back bone and fans got educated, maybe teams wouldn't move.  You have to be pretty f*cking stupid to support a team in franchised sport anyway.

a
a

I would love it if the MN teams sold stock to raise funds.  The Packers are the epitome of how teams should be owned.

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a

You have to be a F*cktard if you think building a stadium makes more economic sense than using the the money to directly implementing fiscal policy.  I could use 600$ million and create far more jobs that a stadium, and have it far more sustainable.  Better still, the people who's tax money contributes to it, actually sees the benefits in their local community.  I am not for the Twin's having a new stadium, but they built it none the less.

I would like to see financials as proof that building a stadium leads to more jobs that direct economic action?  Maybe saint paul would like to see 600$ million tax cut?

Really?
Really?

The "all the jobs that will created" is bullshit. most workers will come from out of state.

Woodtick
Woodtick

Millions will be made in the stadium and millions will be paid to the governmen in the form of taxes, both income taxes by Vikings employees and sales taxes paid by fans who buy tickets and concessions.

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a

And when they play sh*t and the fans don't come, who ends up paying for the big turd?I'd like to see the Fans pay more - how about the fans pay massive ticket prices and huge concession prices, and then a little is funded by government?

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a

Exactly where are the financials that say millions will be made?  If I invested the stadium money directly into the local economy, I could generate millions of revenue, jobs, social services and tax breaks.  The sales tax effects everyone, not just the fans.  If you want to target the fans, increase ticket prices, how about this... We could spend the 500 million on education and healthcare, and make it easier to live.. It's ironic that fans are not willing to pay an additional 1000$ per ticket to see their games.. why not?

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