Everyone's a loser when black radical confronts white conservative at UM-Duluth[VIDEO]

Categories: Racism
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Blair Moses joined Phil Cleary as one of two losers in the debate.
Phil Cleary is a young conservative activist, who decided he wanted to push literature for an anti-immigration group called "Youth for Western Civilization." Blair Moses is a young radical who decided he wanted to wear a shirt bearing the face of Huey P. Newton, founder of the Black Panthers.

This will not end well. In fact, it didn't, and there's video to prove it.

As Cleary was handing out constitutions as part of "Constitution Day" and manning a booth, he was approached by Moses and a couple other students who'd just left the student multicultural center. Cleary's tape of the run-in begins with Moses pointing to the Second Amendment.

"Can I just say something?" Moses says. "I exercise this right here."

What followed was a predictably useless dialogue, which proved nothing except that neither of these fellows is very good at making a point.

Cleary initially affirmed that he, too, was a "permit to carry holder as well."

Moses decided his suggestion wasn't made well enough, so he elaborated.

"That's fine," he said. "I just want to let you know that if you ever threaten the multicultural center, I will exercise it."

"If I threaten the multicultural center," Clearly said, "you'll shoot me?"

Moses backs off a bit, with a little help from his friends, to say that he only means to "defend" the multicultural center.

Then the two get into a particularly inane discussion -- "Have you memorized the Constitution?" "Have you?" -- which makes the casual observer want to take neither side, and instead start a third side that argues, "Oh both of you shut up already and get to class."

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Phil Cleary, Susana Pelayo-Woodward: These two will not be grabbing dinner together anytime soon.
After the video -- which is now soaring in pageviews on Youtube, where it's attracting some of America's most respected racist internet commenters -- hit the web, City Pages reached Cleary by phone. Cleary says he's a field representative for the Leadership Institute, a conservative group that deploys conservative activists nationwide.

Cleary was on assignment to pass out constitutions that day, and had chosen to do so on behalf of the "Youth for Western Civilization" group. On its website, that group explains its mission as striving for "the survival of our own culuture and civilization," meaning white Christians.

"Western Civilization," the site explains, "has also given priceless gifts to the rest of mankind, including advances in medicine, the arts, and scientific exploration."

It's probably sentiments like that which led Susana Pelayo-Woodward, director of UMD's office of cultural diversity, to approach Cleary that day and ask if YWC is a white supremacist group. Cleary told her that it wasn't.

"No?" Pelayo-Woodward said. "It looks like one."

It also looks like one to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which recently did an extensive study on the YWC and its background. That report unveiled, among other things, that a former vice president of the YWC named Marcus Epstein once pleaded guilty to a drunken attack on a black woman in Washington, D.C., whom he'd referred to as -- you guessed it! -- a "nigger."

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Does this look like a white supremacist group to you?--Okay, maybe a little.
Though SPLC writes otherwise, Cleary tried to make a distinction between the Leadership Institute and Youth for Western Civilization -- a curious effort, given that he'd alternately stated to City Pages that he was working for the Leadership Insitute and manning a booth for YWC. When asked why it was he wanted to hand out pamphlets for the YWC, Cleary said he doesn't have an "official relationship" with the group. Beyond that, his answer was a bit thin.

"I have a few friends up there that wanted to meet me at the table," Cleary said. "It was just kind of a decision that we wanted to use Youth for Western Civilization for handing out constitutions. The story isn't so much about YWC -- it's about this Black Panther that came up and threatened us."

No, Phil, it's about both. The Constitution is a broad, 220 year old document that's changed a bit over time, and really come into its own, especially in the last few decades. It shouldn't be used to threaten, or insulted. Nor should whites-only groups be the only ones proud of it.

The great Cleary-Moses debate can be watched below. City Pages is not responsible for any viewers who pull out their hair as a result of this tape.




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Handful
Handful

That is one ignorant race profiling idiot and she is a professor give me a freaking break

Tlray_207
Tlray_207

The way that Susana is portrayed in this video is ridiculous. The whole portion of that video was taken out of context. She was not referring to his constitutions, rather the other literature on the table. She is an educated woman of color, and much more tolerant than the student who first appears in the video. 

srsly
srsly

College is awesome. A "black panther" and a "white conservative" have a showdown! Two people who couldn't be more unlikable if they, well, were a black panther and a white conservative. Shoot-out! Shoot-out! Shoot-out! Please do the world a favor and pop each other in the head simultaneously. 

Colonblow
Colonblow

Handing out the US Constitution?  Racism, pure and simple.

Bianca
Bianca

"...it's about this Black Panther that came up and threatened us."Ugh.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Oh the "tolerance" for anybody with opposing views.Hmmm. Sounds like the same kind of hate that the gay fraction of society practices when someone shows up to "spread the word of God" while passing out Bibles.

Johnnycalifornia
Johnnycalifornia

Not sure which makes me sicker...the racist, or the witch hunter.  Slow day at the multi-cultural center?

Doubletap
Doubletap

An 'educated woman of color' - wouldn't that make her an anomaly?

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Thank God he wasn't wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt, just imagine if Communism would get a toe hold in the United States.   I heard from a very reliable source that time traveling Black Panthers have traveled forward in time to save Osama Bin Laden so they can combine and place missiles in Cuba!   Why am I Michele Bachmann the only one sane enough to see all the puzzle pieces fitting together?    We are through the looking glass people! Stokely Carmichael is in 2011 and the chickens have come home to roost!   Panic!  Rev. Wright!   Fear!  Somebody find out where Bill Ayers is!  Scream!   Vote Bachmann 2012!    Why won't City Pages report on this?   Why are only the Republicans sane and smart enough to know what a threat Black Panthers are! 

Guy
Guy

Good day to you, Kirk.  I am surprised to learn that you have taken a contrarian stance on this issue.

jww
jww

You should be the last person making comments about tolerance.  You are a well documented bigot and xenophobe/homophobe.  You are a pure evangelical tea-partisan hack.  Your life is a permanent limp.  If you didn't live in the wealthiest and most tolerant country in the World, evolution would have taken you out long ago. 

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Communism not taking a foot hold in the United States?Well damn brother, where the hell have you been?

Have you not seen the supporters from the CPUSA (Communist Party USA) at events like the One Nation Rally held Oct. 2, 2010?  (the event in Washington in which Comedy Central clowns Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert hosted)This was the event the Obama organization known as “Organizing for America” urged its supporters to attend the "One Nation rally".In fact, the CPUSA was an official “endorsing organization”  of the "One Nation rally" and was given space to set up a literature table by the rally organizers. Per a two-page official list of “One Nation March” organizations that clearly shows that the CPUSA was given a highly coveted “reserved space” at that rally.

Have you not noticed the CPUSA has been openly pursuing and promoting the policy of the Democratic Party?

and BTW, there was LOTS of Che Guevara T-shirts there.

Yes in deed, communism/socialism/anti-Americanism is in full swing here in America.Sad thing is, fools like yourself are loving every minute of it.Your mockery of those who oppose these things, prove just that.

Bianca
Bianca

HELLO WHITE AMERICA ASSASSINATE MY CHARACTER

Josey
Josey

And your a radical liberal progessive socialist athiest freak and your life isn't worth a crap. At least we have'nt all evolved into losers like you

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

We judge you by the content of your character all the time kirk.  Your character is one that makes fun of dead children.  That's why everyone wants you to fuck off and shut up.  Why would anyone listen to a scumbag that mocks dead children then lies about it?  

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Wow, nice work recognizing people for the "color of their skin and not the content of their character."

If everyone could could go blind for a while, perhaps we would only assassinate ones character because their character SUCKS!

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