Forecast: Winter is going to be hell

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That's the spirit.
Things are about to get pretty terrible around here.

A confluence of global weather patterns has perfectly aligned to make this winter a living hell by way of abnormally frigid temperatures, according to an updated forecast from Accuweather.

And that's abnormal even by Minnesota standards.

There is some good news. An earlier forecast said that Minneapolis would see the worst of the cold beginning in December. This week's update projects December will be slightly warmer. Warmer, of course, being a relative word.

But don't get your hopes up. That doesn't mean it's still not going to be a "brutal" few months.

"Minneapolis and Chicago lie in the heart of where the worst of winter is expected with above-normal snowfall and colder-than-normal conditions predicted," writes Meteorologist Meghan Evans in the update. "Cold blasts will be longer lasting from late December into January."

The biggest contributor to our forthcoming months of pain is something called "La Nina," which Accuweather defines as "a phenomenon that occurs when sea surface temperatures across the equatorial central and eastern Pacific are below normal." So apparently the outcome is something like this:

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Image from Accuweather.

Great.

We might as well get as much complaining as possible out of our systems now, because this is going to be a long one.


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Water Park Maintenance
Water Park Maintenance

IfThis is a good reminder.Here in Minnesota, I see people use salt excessively all the time. Even thiswinter, when we’ve had very little snow, I see salt covering the sidewalks allthe time. Not good for the environment.

Steve Kroll
Steve Kroll

I'm not going to put much stock into any long range forecast - especially from Accuweather, who can't even display the correct temperature on my cell phone.

Bobby
Bobby

Last year on the first Friday in December it snowed 8 inches, which was just the first of many huge snow storms. A little cold ain't shit. 

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Does anyone remember last year?It was one of the coldest and 3rd snowiest EVER!

Nevertheless, hey, that's the business behind selling non-news.  Throw ina little fear, and the mush minds all gather around the water cooler to talkabout the "news.”

I agree with PMB; it will be fitting if Al Gore was in town speaking at aconference about global warming, when the mother of all irony slaps his scamming face.

Research
Research

No.  My roomates are too cheap as it is.  How will they take this gas bill?????  Higher gas bill means more bitching from them which results into more beer for me.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Suck on that Al Gore!    Remember when Al Gore predicted it would never be cold again?    Well well looks like us Republicans are right again.   I hate science.   What has science ever done for me?    As a graduate of Glen Beck University I can proudly say this once and all proves we can pollute all we want. 

Fund4AnimalDonations
Fund4AnimalDonations

My animals predict the weather. I have a miniature horse who ALWAYS grows his winter coat at the last minute. He NEVER grows it until he needs it. As of last week he has the thickest, longest winter coat I've ever seen on him. Burrrrrrrr...But the funny part is...his name is Noah!

DHanners
DHanners

Whew! I was worried it might be a bad winter in St. Paul. But since it says the worst will be in Minneapolis, then I guess things won't be so bad for those of us in St. Paul. I do hope we get that warmer December they'll get in Minneapolis, though.

Daniel Loftus
Daniel Loftus

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'd move to little if any precip. zone, but sadly I have too many teeth for that region.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

I shouldn't even do my fake posts anymore because every single Republican is as insanely stupid as you are.   Just out of curiosity can you please tell everyone your educational background so they can compare it to the climate scientists that agree with Al Gore.   I mean you are only disagreeing with scientists that devote their entire lives to researching this issue so I'm just curious what your credentials are?    Do you understand the concept of peer review?   Do you realize that if a scientist makes something up another scientist will expose that he is making it up?  I know its a new concept but scientists have a lot in common with progressives in that we use these things called facts, logic and data to prove the things we say.   I'm just curious if you skepticism of climate science also leads to you questioning your doctor when it comes to medical science?   Just so you know Glen Beck University is not a real university.  

bloodbath
bloodbath

Remember the global cooling scare of the 70's and 80's attributed to aerosol spray cans? Science is infallible. Al Gore is God.

David Foureyes
David Foureyes

I think it is safe to assume if it is bad in Minneapolis, it will bad in Minneapolis' suburbs...like St Paul...the suburb...of Minneapolis.

bloodbath
bloodbath

"Global warming petition project" isn't the greatest source to site. "Climate Gate" leaks, however, are a good source to site. As is the fact that ice core samples prove the earth was warmer thousands of years ago than it is now. Also, the scientists who support global warming theory overwhelmingly accept gov research grants while skeptics don't. Correlation? Also, why do you only debate marks like Kirk, and not me?

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

PMB says:"Do you realize that if a scientist makes something up another scientist will expose that he is making it up?"OK PMB, what closed minded and uneducated circles do you run with?You've never heard of the "Global Warming Petition Project"?

The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of “settled science” and an overwhelming “consensus” in favor of the hypothesis of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong.  No such consensus or settled science exists.  As indicated by the petition text and signatory list, a very large number of American scientists reject this hypothesis. Publicists at the United Nations, Mr. Al Gore, and their supporters frequently claim that only a few “skeptics” remain – skeptics who are still unconvinced about the existence of a catastrophic human-caused global warming emergency. That's 31,487 Americans with university degrees in science – including 9,029 with PhDs.So PMB, is there a list of 32,000 "American Scientists", that signed a petition stating global warming exists?31,487 American scientists!Sounds like a "consensus", that you and the scammers you follow, are full of sh*t.

bloodbath
bloodbath

Value yourself Fake Michelle Bachman. Don't be a tool, afraid to ask questions. Ever notice how every pro climate change scientist is affiliated with a governmental entity while the skeptics are independent? I'll answer for you, you haven't. Science proves everday it is fallible. Science's accuracy is only relative to time and space.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

"Do you realize that if a scientist makes something up another scientist will expose that he is making it up?"Scientists have disagreed with this phony climate science, and many continue to do so.These are some of the same "scientists" that said it was "global cooling" in the 1970'sExplain that...

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Also kirk just because I called you a liar doesn't mean you don't owe everyone an apology for citing your stupid "Global Warming Petition Project" lie.   In the debate I easily proved that was a discredited lie you were telling yet now you are so eager to change topics to civility.   If you are so concerned about being civil you should apologize for repeating stupid Fox News lies.   Is that the only weak argument you had kirk the lying idiot?    Than you should thank me for teaching you so much and making you less stupid of a person.  

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

kirk I call you a liar because you are a liar.   You lie about everything you post about.   Remember when you lied about making fun of dead children?    Remember how you claimed you didn't until me and other commenters here went back and found your offensive stupid postings?    Once you lie, you are known as a liar and smart people take everything you say with a grain of salt.   I hate reading your stupid ramblings so I want to make sure that everyone that reads them knows you are a stupid asshole liar that makes fun dead children and have never been right about anything. 

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Last year, the hacked emails of climate scientists from the University of East Anglia spawned what has hitherto become known as "Climategate -- a mini media tempest that briefly provided climate change deniers with what they believed to be grist for their favorite mill: that climate change is some sort of worldwide conspiratorial scam. There was never a whole lot to hang a scandal on, but that didn't stop the frenzy that pushed "Climategate" onto front pages and network news shows.

Of course, since then, the grownups have stepped back to the fore, and five independent investigations have as Steve Benen points out "concluded that the integrity of the science is entirely sound" and that the "deniers' arguments were debunked."

Once again bloodbath you are a stupid Republican idiot who only gets his information from Fox News.   The debunking of the Climategate scandal was completely ignored by the media especially the right wing media like Fox News.   If you had taken 30 seconds to google "climate gate" debunked you would have read like 100 articles from various scientists pointing out this was once again a way for rich people to trick the very stupid (you and kirk) into voting against their self interests.   So just like kirk you need to apologize for being so poorly informed.   Once again you are just the typical Fox News idiot who believes everything he is told.  

As for your idiotic correlation comment it just further proves your ignorance.   If you want to talk about correlation you will see that every "scientist" that is devoted to debunking Global Climate Change is paid by oil and gas companies that have a direct financial interest in discrediting climate scientists.   See a scientist gets a government grant to do things like study why there are no more polar bears.   The scientist doesn't have a set answer in his mind.  The scientist just has the problem and they use science to solve the problem.  The only solution the scientist is attempting to find is the correct solution.   If the correct answer was Polar Bear cancer the scientist would write a report blaming Polar Bear Cancer.   However since the correct answer is Global Climate Change the scientist states it was Global Climate Change.     The skeptic scientists hired by the oil company are purely hired to provide an answer that the oil and gas companies want.   The answer the oil and gas companies want is that Global Climate Change isn't real so their work is 100% dedicated to debunking that.   When you have a preconceived answer in mind you aren't doing science, what they are doing is politics.  

Hot Hot Dickerson
Hot Hot Dickerson

cuz nobody likes to debate rubes who don't realilze they ARE marks?

Bilky
Bilky

wow, you got schooled kirk. time to hang em up a la mcnabb, haha

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Keep poking at PMB!That unstable transgender clown will eventually snap.

And debate?Ya, if that entails calling you a "liar" 3 times within a 100 word rant.

And your right, "climate gate" is the ultimate source to discredit this junk science. They themselves have proving it's a scam.  If it were not, they would not have had to fudge the numbers.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Actually you are lying again.   That list was peer reviewed by scientists who point out that it wasn't 30,000 climate scientists but instead pretty much anyone with a Bachelor of Science degree.   What expertise does a nuclear engineer or a medical doctor or a food scientist or mechanical engineer have that makes them qualified to have an informed opinion on the cause(s) of recent climate disruption? How many of these names are working climate scientists instead of science or math teachers or stay-at-home-mom’s with engineering degrees? How many of these people has actually published a peer-reviewed paper on climate?  The think tank that faked this petition didn't verify if any of the signers actually they had the degree they claimed.  We all know conservatives are liars because you lie all the time.   Remember how you lie about making fun of dead children and your actual quotes spit back at you like 50 times?    The best part about proving you a liar is it only took a minute or so of my time since your claim has been so thoroughly disproved by smart scientists.   See kirk you aren't very smart.  No one who watches Fox News is very smart.  Fox News is the way rich people trick the very stupid people into voting against their self interest.   You should apologize to everyone for being stupid and lying.  Admit to everyone you have no education and are just repeating things Fox News told you.    It's very obvious you are very stupid and just believing whatever you've been told. 

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

"Global warming skeptic Steven J. Milloy, for example, once headed the now-defunct Advancement of Sound Science Coalition, established in 1993 with money from cigarette maker Phillip Morris to help the company fight smoking restrictions. Today, Milloy is the founder of junkscience.com, a website that claims to debunk climate change science, and writes a column for FoxNews.com."  From the The Center for Public Integrity's website. 

So basically you think 99% of scientists are in a secret cabal to invent Global Climate Change because they get government money because otherwise brilliant scientists with Master degrees would be working at McDonald's.   Does that boil it down idiots?  Your conspiracy is stupid made up nonsense.   My response to your idiotic nonsense would be rich people can pay evil less rich people to say anything no matter how untrue it is.  That's why the guy that told you cigarettes are good for you is now telling you climate change isn't real.   My facts make perfect sense to anyone capable of logical thought.    "Bloodbath"  why don't you try not being a tool and ask why we should trust a scientist like Steven J. Milloy?   

Please also note poorly educated and stupid kirk isn't telling us why he knows more than climate scientists. Where did you study climate change kirk?   If you know so much about science you'd know a petition is a little different than a peer reviewed research paper on climate change.  Why don't you cite one of those?  

zerofor
zerofor

If by "independent" you mean "working for fossil fuel companies."

Susan
Susan

Global Cooling was never taken seriously by the scientific establishment. It was an invention of the press, who didn't accurately represent that the theory had not passed major scientific hurdles. Its discussion now is primarily a trope used by conservatives who don't know anything about climate change, including people like you, who are unaware that 99% of people with actual degrees in climate science fields agree that climate change is happening today, and that it is primarily due to human intervention.  I would also note that the scientists who "disagree" with climate change are overwhelmingly geologists and other oil industry scientists who have no more expertise in this area than you do. I post this not hoping Mr. Kirk here will be persuaded; he is too personally invested in the right wing climate fantasy. But I wanted to clarify for those who encounter this entirely fictional argument about "global cooling".

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