Gay community apologizes to Amy Koch for ruining her marriage

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Amy Koch gets an apology
The gay and lesbian community of Minnesota has issued a letter of apology to recently resigned Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch for ruining the institution of marriage and causing her to stray from her husband and engage in an "inappropriate relationship."

"On behalf of all gays and lesbians living in Minnesota, I would like to wholeheartedly apologize for our community's successful efforts to threaten your traditional marriage," reads the letter from John Medeiros. "We apologize that our selfish requests to marry those we love have cheapened and degraded traditional marriage so much that we caused you to stray from your own holy union for something more cheap and tawdry."

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The letter comes on the heels of Koch's own apology, released yesterday, in which she expressed her deep regret for "engaging in a relationship with a Senate staffer." Although the letter did not specify the identity of the other participant in the "inappropriate relationship," it is widely rumored to be former communications chief Michael Brodkorb, who lost several positions with the GOP in the wake of the scandal.

Koch, Brodkorb, and their fellow Republicans campaigned this year to put a constitutional amendment on next year's ballot to define marriage as the union between a man and a woman, thus forbidding gay marriage. Sadly, the amendment comes too late to prevent Koch from straying from her own marriage.

Read the full apology letter to Amy Koch on Page 2

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Jason S
Jason S

To Hypocritical Republicans and Biblical-Adulteresses:  If you cheat as soon as other people that you don't like and are bigoted against, then CLEARLY, you only loved the holy sanctity of marriage, and NOT your husband.  Yet you call THEM the immoral ones??  The hypocrisy!!!I wonder what's worse.  Marrying the same sex and committing to each other in exactly the same *true love* and commitment..... Or sleeping around, in which YOU are the one making the MOCKERY of marriage.  YOU are what is wrong with marriage.  YOU are the one that devalues marriage, OK?  It's about love and commitment, not hanging around the senate with your legs behind your ears...  How DARE you accuse others of "ruining marriage" when people like you are already doing more than enough to accomplish that goal??  It's like the pot calling the *white* kettle "black."  Not only is it hypocritical, but it's actually entirely reversed!!!  We don't have a black pot, black kettle.. We really do have the black pot calling the white sheet black.  And such clueless, dishonest people are in politics?  I knew this, but it never gets easier to hear about small children doing big kid's work.  Admit that you are making a mockery of marriage, and don't you DARE lecture anyone else on what marriage should or should not be, since you CLEARLY have no idea.....  If you're a bigot, you already have no idea, but this just makes it so UNREAL with its so blatant stupidity....  

(no, my analogies of black/white nothing to do with skin-color, but only that old "pot calling kettle black" saying)

shusser
shusser

Typical bitterness of  the rebellious.  Where is the love and compassion that you profess?  I only see loathsome gloating of the hateful.  Please reconsider such a hypocritical position. 

Frgdfgfd
Frgdfgfd

Fucking heterophobes.  Queers ruin everything for everybody

I DelCarmen
I DelCarmen

Thank you, Mr. Medeiros, for making this point.

Guest
Guest

Too funny.  I guess I'm late to the game here.  I was just reading the other day in an article in Psychology Today about a gay study that said 75% of gay male couples are in open relationships.  I don't think it said anything about lesbian couples.  Maybe the solution is that marraige should be defined by monogomy and not the sex of those who enter the commitment???

George
George

The sarcasm is wonderful in this missive. I applaud Mr. Medeiros for his timeliness, his sense of humor and the manner of civility with which he has attacked Amy Koch.

Dwilliams143
Dwilliams143

Now that I know what Amy is, I'm ready to negotiate the price.

Kparcher
Kparcher

Wow. After reading other people's posts about this article and the letter included within, it is easy to see that this topic is controversial. Why? That is what has always eluded me. The message I get from the bible is that Jesus wants us to love! I thought the letter was funny.

Anus
Anus

Wow. I never knew so many Bible Scholars read CityPages Online! What if it's ALL BULLSHIT!?

Betulah
Betulah

...with fake power comes fake responsibility...

Debbie McDaniel
Debbie McDaniel

Amy Koch, blaming same sex marraiges on YOUR infidelity is the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard. You're just a whore. Own it!

Stendme
Stendme

Here's the problem, people.  There are two kinds of marriage: the legal kind sanctioned by the government (which is afforded to heterosexuals, but not homosexuals), and the religious kind sanctioned by the church.  What the GLBT community is asking for is the first kind, not the second.  Those in favor of a constitutional amendment confuse the second with the first.

Folks, this Constitutional amendment is sooo not necessary.  Minnesota law already bans gay marriage.  Minnesota law also bans recognition of gay marriage recognized by and performed in other states.  The amendment does not change this.

scampo
scampo

boo to this letter!  How arrogant, and how upsetting that the people who wrote this letter took a cheap, low blow at Christianity by saying "side we are not church-going people..."  I absolutely hate that Christian faith and the Bible are getting drug through the mud b/c of the marriage issue.  It's really sad and does not show love by the LGBT community. God loves them too, and i'd wish they'd see that. 

Guitom
Guitom

So amusing how the bible thumpers and other right-wing miscreants are too dense to comprehend sarcasm and the obvious (to those of us with a brain) commentary on Koch's BLATANT hypocrisy. Idiots.

Jim Lewchuk
Jim Lewchuk

Another bigot succumbs to the human weakness we all share and bites the dust in spite of her hate legislation. What comes around goes around.

Rade
Rade

Relying on what the bible says is where the true ludicrousness is. I have never met more judgmental, closed-minded people than religious zealots. Isn't the point of life to find love, peace and happiness? In the end, do you really think that your maker (whomever that is) will care who you married, as long as you were true to your faith (whatever it is), true to your love (whomever that is) and true to yourself?  Why does it matter if the person is male or female? The bible also says that you should beat your children into compliance...is that a new law as well?

James_schmidtke
James_schmidtke

santimonioous liberal garbage!  Looking forward to John's apology letter to Hilary Clinton for the gay communities role in that Presidents illicit and ongoing affairs with a White House intern!  Oh wait,  as a liberal John is well above us all and can certainly pick and choose what is moral,  what is not,  what is to be lauded and what is to be condemned.This letter is wonderful proof of the absolute hypocricy and LUNACY of the left,  gay or straight!

SteveM
SteveM

In the Books of Moses, two of the opposite sex having sex are considered already married at the time of the activity.  So are they Bigamists by Moses definition?  The demise of the institution of marrage has nothing to do with gay people.  It has to do with warped heterosexuals.  Studies have also shown recently that more and more hetero couples are just shacking up with each other and not getting marriage licenses.  There are a lot of little kids out there who's parents (sperm and egg doners) are not married and were not married at the time of conception.

guest
guest

If I were part of the gay community I don't think I would be thrilled about being represented by Mr. Medeiros's letter. It is non-sensical, juvenile, and not very well written. It needlessly inflates a simple bit of irony - that someone who claims to value the sanctity of marriage for political purposes violated that very sanctity by adultery - into a meaningless diatribe that does nothing to further the cause of gay marriage. Start a conversation it has, but is it the right conversation?

Alex S.
Alex S.

There is nothing Republican about the GOP in 2012... the party has been hijacked. Time to get all of those buffoons re-elected. 

Guest25
Guest25

This is a classic ad hominem logical fallacy, so the ridiculous letter means nothing.  An ad hominem attack looks like this: (X says p) + (X has some negative trait) = p is false.  In this story: The lady (X) says that marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman (p).  The lady has an affair (X has a negative trait).  Marriage is not defined as being between a man and a woman (p is false). 

This is what is wrong with our educational system today.  We are over-educating our youth, and yet we're not teaching them basic logical principles.  No one is saying that what the woman did was right, but the wrong she did doesn't make homosexuality right.  If you want to say that homosexuality is o.k., then by all means do so.  Just don't make yourself sound so silly with a logically fallacious argument.   

Stendme
Stendme

FYI, the author of this letter is a member of a local church.  Of course we know God loves us.  We're not the ones who say God doesn't.

Guest25
Guest25

Who's the real bigot here?  No true believer is calling you an idiot.  No true believer says you are dense and don't have a brain.  No true believer gets their kicks out of spewing hate like you did above.  Maybe you better examine your heart and see who the real close-minded individual is here, Guitom. 

Guest25
Guest25

"Relying on what the bible says is where the true ludicrousness is. I have never met more judgmental, closed-minded people than religious zealots."  '

What a bigoted, close-minded statement from someone that claims to be open minded.  You must be the final authority on these matters to make a statement like that.  I would say you are the most judgmental, closed-minded individual I have ever heard from.  People like you are pretty easy to deal with.  You think you see everything perfectly and clearly or else you wouldn't make statements like that.  If you can make statements like that, then how dare you claim religious zealots of being judgmental and close-minded?  Your subjective rants show your true colors, don't you agree? 

Stendme
Stendme

Um, you clearly missed the point.  Clinton didn't try to legislate morality.  That's the difference. 

MerryChristmas
MerryChristmas

All the more reason for the state to take a vested interest in families. Kids have rights, too, including the right to a mom and a dad that love each other. Once children are seen as commodities, that can be bought (e.g. IVF) or even ordered, then we have truly begun playing God.

Guest25
Guest25

The flaws of heterosexual relationships doesn't make homosexual relationships any more natural or right.  Sorry.

Cameron Willadsen
Cameron Willadsen

That's an incredibly....stupid argument. The reason for the letter was not a "You cheated, homosexuality is morally right." It was a jab at how those that claim they stand for their personal ideas of morality often undermine those very principals with their own actions. AS WELL as the fact that the argument from the religious right about gay marriage was that it underminded heterosexual marriage. Ergo the letter.

The problem isn't over educating our youth. It's you made a crappy argument.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@Guest25 No one said you didn't have a brain - of course you do. You just don't seem to use it much.

stendme
stendme

Hi, Guest25, I like your comment "no true believer gets their kicks out of spewing hate..."  I think it's worth looking at the follow up letter that Medeiros wrote.  Have you seen it?  Here is the link: 

http://blogs.citypages.com/blo... 

dev
dev

 Really? What was DOMA?

Liz
Liz

Kids have the right to a mom and dad that love each other? Is that a legal right? If so, who do I sue for compensation, given that my father died when I was little?

Children need parents who love them, care about them, can give them time and attention. They also need good role models, both male and female. But being a genetic donor is not a requirement for being a good parent or role model. And, as the evidence is showing, neither is heterosexuality (google for the Paediatrics journal, serch for the study on lesbian parents families).This does NOT mean that same-sex parents are better than opposite sex ones, it just means that sexuality is not a factor in parenting.

Elizabethmaddison93
Elizabethmaddison93

Replying to the comment quoted below-" Really?  Everything is natural?  There are no moral absolutes?  Give me a break.  You and I know that you don't believe that simply because of the things you withhold yourself from doing.  Even you know there are moral absolutes, Brandon."

'Natural' and 'unnatural' are not cognate with 'good' and 'bad'. Or 'moral' and 'immoral'. If something occurs in nature it is natural. Simple as. Whether it is 'good' or 'moral' is another matter, and Brandon addressed that in his second paragraph.Also, the concepts of 'good', 'bad', 'moral' and 'immoral' are human constructs- natural in that they are a product of a natural thing- i.e. humans, but they are subjective. Moreover, there's a bit of a false dichotomy there- things are not EITHER good OR bad, moral OR immoral, some things are seen as being 'not bad' or 'not immoral'.

Concepts of morality change over time. Many things that most people now view as being 'immoral' have, in the past, been seen as either 'not immoral' or actively 'moral'. Example- sexual contact with pubescents. It was seen as being unremarkable in Ancient Rome, and was considered to be actively good in Ancient Greece, especially Athens. The  erastes/eromenos relationship was seen as necessary for the social development of the boy.

You mention moral absolutes- what do you mean by that? Is not killing someone a moral absolute? Sure, I don't go around killing people because they annoy me (tempted as I am on some occasions- I hated Christmas shopping!), but if someone were to threaten the lives of my family, and the only way to stop them were to kill them, I'd do my best to do so. Stealing? I'm not going to mug someone for an iPhone, but if I were in a situation where my child was starving and I had no other way of getting them food I'd certainly consider a spot of shoplifting or similar. Child abuse? I could, just about, imagine a situation where some maniac might force someone into doing such a thing to prevent an even worse thing happening to the child in question. Thankfully, that's such an extreme hypothetical it's very unlikely to ever happen. I hope.

What do you consider to be a moral absolute? Could you hypothesis a situation in which it would be the lesser of two evils?

Brandon
Brandon

What does it mean to be natural?  Every action by any living thing on the Earth is derived from the Earth, making everything natural.  Therefore, homosexuality cannot be declared unnatural.

And as far as righteousness goes, in mathematics/logic, a statement is vacuously true so long as there is no proof for otherwise.  So, homosexuality is just as "right" as heterosexuality.

Liz
Liz

Doesn't make 'em unnatural or wrong, either.... Actually, the flaws of one hetero relationship doesn't affect any other hetero relationship either.What was your point?

Guest25
Guest25

It doesn't matter that YOU think it's a stupid argument, Cameron.  It doesn't matter what you think the reason for the letter is either.  Your opinion is subjective and doesn't hold up to the laws of logic.  You can ask 50 different people what they thought the reason for the letter was and you can get 50 different answers.  The bottom line is that the letter is logically fallacious, no matter how neat and awesome and cool you think it is.  You can't change that fact just because you don't like it.  It fails logically.  Prove that it doesn't and maybe someone will take you seriously.  But if all you've got is "you made a crappy argument" then all you've got is subjectivism. And you probably don't need me to tell you that subjectivism is a logical fallacy as well, do you?  Basic laws of logic, my friend. 

Guest25
Guest25

If you have no moral absolutes then it really doesn't matter what you do, does it?  If you cloud the area of right and wrong, then who gets to be the final authority in the matter?  That's what I don't understand about non-Christians.  They fuss because we believe in an absolute standard, but then they set themselves up as their own absolute standard. 

The Bible says all things are not natural.  You say they are.  We aren't going to get anywhere in this discussion.  You can take your chances with your worldview.  I wish you the best, but according to my worldview (which I have every much of a right to believe as you do yours) it's not going to end well for you.  But see Christianity isn't as exclusive as unbelievers make it out to be.  In our worldview, God came down in the flesh and died for a bunch of sinners that hated him, so that through the atonement of Jesus Christ those sinners could have forgiveness of sins and eternal life.  That sounds pretty inclusive to me.  And that forgiveness of sins and eternal life is offered to you through the name of Jesus Christ, but you have a problem with the morality of Christianity.  It always goes back to the moral issue.

Guest25
Guest25

Really?  Everything is natural?  There are no moral absolutes?  Give me a break.  You and I know that you don't believe that simply because of the things you withhold yourself from doing.  Even you know there are moral absolutes, Brandon.

Liz
Liz

Guest25, if the character flaw in question was simply her cheating on her husband, that would be one thing. But the flaw being highlighted is her hypocrasy.

She has been working hard to prevent couples from receiving the legal and social benefits that she enjoys by claiming that same-sex marriage somehow harms opposite-sex marriages- while at the same time doing something that DOES harm marriage- namely, being unfaithful. The letter satirised the standard rhetoric of the anti-marriage equality side to highlight her loss of credibility on this issue. If the letter constitutes an attack, and that's a very big IF, then, as the writer says in the follow-up article, "Consider where [it] originated."

If she hadn't made 'the sanctity of marriage' and how same-sex marriage supposedly damages it such a key part of her political image, this letter would indeed have been uncalled for. But she brought the topic to the table- why shouldn't she get a slice?   Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, turnabout is fair play, and don't dish it out if you can't take it....

Guest25
Guest25

My point is that the letter was stupid.  He and others on this board are attacking the character flaw of this heterosexual lady in order to defend their views on homosexuality.  Why is everyone missing this point?  I've already said if you want to defend homosexuality, then go ahead, but an ad hominem letter is a poor way to go about it!

Brandon
Brandon

Amy Koch believes this amendment should be added to the Minnesota Constitution as a defense of the sanctity of marriage.  She would like to defend the sanctity of marriage against A, which undermines the sanctity of marriage; but would not like to defend the sanctity of marriage against B, in which she engages.  Amy Koch's marriage is a common example of why sanctity of marriage is a silly concept, in general.  It is not rational to say Amy Koch is wrong about SSM because Amy Koch is a hypocrite (ad hominem).  It is legitimate to say Amy Koch is wrong about SSM undermining sanctity of marriage, because sanctity of marriage is already untenable to begin with.

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