Dayton: Vikings stadium bill needs to be approved this session, or it's too late

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Looks like Dayton faces a fourth-and-long in his attempt to keep the Vikings in Minnesota.
Monday night, the Vikings stadium bill seemingly died an anticlimactic death in the House Government Operations and Elections Committee, where it was defeated in a 9-6 vote.

Following the bill's defeat, the chief author of the House bill, Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead, said it would require someone to "pull a rabbit out of a hat for this thing to stay alive."

Now, it appears legislators may indeed have to come up with some magic in order to keep Minnesota's cursed but beloved NFL franchise in town.

As Politics in Minnesota reports, during a "hastily scheduled" news conference this morning following a conference call with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Dayton said the commish sent a "very strong, very clear" message that next year will be too late.
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Build it, or they will leave.

"The reality is that there are other cities looking for a franchise," Dayton said, adding that the likelihood of a fall special session is "extremely slim and extremely none."

Dayton's remarks refute those who thought that with the bill seemingly dead for now, the best chance to get a stadium deal done would come during a special session next November, after the election. With the Vikings already committed to playing in Minnesota this season, a special session with a lame-duck legislature next winter looked like a possible last chance to keep the Vikings in Minnesota for 2013 and beyond.

But based on Dayton's remarks, either Goodell is bluffing or the legislature will have to get something done before lawmakers' hoped-for end-of-April adjournment.

Otherwise, football fans may have to content themselves with the Minnesota Valkyrie for the foreseeable future.

Previous coverage:
-- Stadium bill deader than Vikings' postseason chances, but Dayton hopeful for another shot
-- Majority of Minneapolis City Council now supports Vikings stadium
-- Pro-Vikings stadium group releases pro-stadium poll, sparking Twitter controversy
-- Vikings, Rybak, Dayton, pro-Vikes legislators finally unveil stadium plan
-- NFL: No Los Angeles Vikings in 2012

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Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Of the 6 "yes" votes, 5 were from Republicans, 1 was from a Democrat.Of the 9 "no" votes, 4 were from Republicans, 5 were from Democrats.

I am NOT happy with the republicans right now.

 

East Coast Doug
East Coast Doug

What is a city supposed to be?  It looks like Minneapolis wants to be an entertainment theme park.  Downtown Mpls certainly isn't there for the people who live in the city proper.  I get the idea that polticians want to use it as a shrine to memorialze their term in office.

Baseball, football, basketball, theatres, bars, resturants, and possibly gambling.   Is there anything in this list that produces anything of value?  anything tangible?  What a joke to give all this attention to some crony franchise sports empty suits.

Someone mentioned no new taxes - There are 'special' taxes that could expire, or be used for property tax relief.  These taxes will continue for this and other pet projects.  Hell we're still paying for the Target Center that we got stuck with, and now want to remodel - goverment has no business being in the entertainment business.

The Vikings stadium will happen.  There are too many wealthly people who own downtown businesses that want that money, and they are major contributors to the democratic machine that runs this city.

And if you think our polticians care about representative government - just watch and see how they get around the Mpls referendum that's in the city charter.

Dave2
Dave2

Small time legislature.

Small time fans.

Small time state.

Small time.

DoNotCare
DoNotCare

Who cares?  Maybe some parenting will take place on Sundays in Minnesota from then on, good riddance to bad rubbish.  Please, take the Twolves and the Wild and the Twinkies with you!  Gave up on pro sports along time ago, they mean nothing.

a grandpa
a grandpa

I don't understand why we can't have a clean stadium bill for our Senators and Reps to vote yes or no on. This last bill had far too many non germaine social amendments to garner GOP support, and had the GOP salivating,  to be palatable for the leftys.

Get a clean bill, bring it to the floor, and take the vote.....why in the heck do you always have to make everything so difficult? 

Stop fooling yourselves, politics is not an ethereal experience.

h.s
h.s

It's as if no one remembers what happened to the Baltimore Colts in 1983... so sad and pathetic for the entire state. It took them 13 long years to get another team back.

Research
Research

Goodbye.  And what I don't get is why everyone says it pumps so much money into the downtown area.  If you don't live downtown then who cares.  That money spent on overpriced drinks and expensive, mediocre food will go toward something else that can enrich someones day.  Everyone makes it sound like if there's no football team downtown maybe 8 times a year then there's absolutely nothing else to do in MN. Everyone will take that extra budget and just save it.  I don't get my toy so I'm leaving.  If someone can mention the benefits other than the whole "job bandwagon" excuse, please say.

Joe
Joe

Too late for what?  For my property taxes to get jacked up again?  For another season of logistical nightmares trying to drive downtown?

They want to go?  Good riddance.  Like anyone will have them in their current state.

JonnyBeGood
JonnyBeGood

 Small time fans?  Why would any fans support franchised sports?  you have to be a complete muppet to do so - for you are just buying into the "fake" dream of competitive sports.

amiller92
amiller92

Um.  What nongermane social amendments?  I'm not aware of any, and Minnesota has pretty strong germaneness rules.

Oh, and I've heard exactly no GOP pols saying the problem was non germane social amendments.

JonnyBeGood
JonnyBeGood

 Well I'd be happy for them to build a stadium, I think ticket prices should be increased 1000x to pay for it.  In addition, I think the specific local area and business that benefit from it should be taxed not those who don't use it.  Why downtown Saint Paul would have a sales tax increase for a stadium build in Arden Hills is beyond reasoning in my opinion.

If a new stadium is built, then the state should prove that it's investment will be gained back with profit.

Phoenix Woman
Phoenix Woman

 Oh come on.  Teams threaten the Big Move all the time.  They rarely do.  http://www.npr.org/2011/08/05/...

Want to keep the Vikes around? Get the NFL to repeal the rules that they put in place to ensure no other city could pull a Green Bay and buy themselves a team.

h.s
h.s

If you really think the only money an NFL team brings to a state is a few drinks in the downtown area, you are even a bigger idiot than the lawmakers voting on this thing.

h.s
h.s

 Oh waaaahhhh I can't drive downtown 8 days a year! Waaaahhhhhhhhhhh. Also, the new plan has zero increase of property taxes.

a grandpa
a grandpa

one example was the attempt to add the "castle doctrine" gun bill to the stadium bill. Additionally,The legislature does not have strong germainness rules. For example,years ago they added the gun bill to the carnival bill at the behest of Steve Swiggum and Tim Pawlenty.

JonnyBeGood
JonnyBeGood

 It's funny how they will not provide financials, detailed financials, of such even when there is plenty of empirical evidence out there.  What if the state just invested the stadium money directly into the economy to create jobs, rather than subsidize the team owner?  I wonder what would happen if we used the 500 million to subsidize local MN businesses - whether that would have a big impact too!

Research
Research

Thanks for answering my question

Joe
Joe

Right.  Just like the Twin's stadium didn't.  However, I cannot ignore the fact that *MY* property taxes went up 250% MORE than they did the previous year when they built that thing.  I don't care what the plan calls for.  Life is what happens when you're making other plans.  What are they going to do when they realize all the money they are counting on doesn't come in?  It's not like their "plan" prevents them from changing their minds and grabbing my by the short hairs again.

HurdyGurdy
HurdyGurdy

Waaaaaah! I can't get Minnesotans to subsidize my 8 days of sweaty grab-ass entertainment for $500 million!

Joe
Joe

 The castle doctrine bill was 100% separate from the stadium bill.  You should probably do a little homework before posting.

amiller92
amiller92

Um.  Yeah.  There was no attempt to add the "castle doctrine" to the stadium bill.  I'm almost 100% certain that's wrong.

Also, absent germaneness rules like those we have in Minnesota, one typically adds unrelated amendments to bills that are going to or have to pass.  The stadium bill thus far is a loser, so it would do very little good to try and tack on a pet project that otherwise can't pass.

amiller92
amiller92

Yeah, the Twins stadium didn't.  None of your property taxes are paying for it.

But what your property taxes are paying for are all the things that used to be covered by local government support from the state that is no longer being provided. 

h.s
h.s

mmmmmmm sweaty grab ass

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