Joe Senser on "Amyworld": Flaking out on picking up kids reflects her 'fierce independence'

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Amy has a propensity for flakiness, her husband testified.
On the August night she struck and killed Anousone Phanthavong with her SUV, Amy Senser was supposed to pick up her daughters following a Katy Perry concert at the Xcel Energy Center. She did not.

With Amy missing in action and his daughters stranded in St. Paul without a ride home, Joe Senser had to drop what he was doing at his Edina home and drive to pick them up. While driving, he repeatedly tried calling Amy to no avail.

That said, it seems natural that once they both arrived home, Joe would grill his wife about was up to instead of picking up her kids, doesn't it? But Joe, testifying during Amy's criminal vehicular homicide trial, said that level of flakiness wasn't out of the norm for his wife and didn't raise eyebrows.

According to the Star Tribune, Joe said it wasn't out of the ordinary for Amy to flake on picking up her daughters, nor was it abnormal for her to go incommunicado.

Referring to his wife by her middle name, Joe said, "That's Margaret; that's her personality." Asked whether she's erratic, Joe said she's not -- rather, she's "fiercely independent."

Sounds a lot more like fiercely irresponsible to us, but Joe said he actually regards Amy's flakiness as "one of the most admirable qualities in a human being," adding that she often takes off and explores the world without planning or communicating.
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Sorry Joe, but "Amyworld" sounds like a bummer.

Joe said he refers to his wife's independence as "Amyworld."

Because Joe knows her fiercely independent personality all too well, he said he didn't bother asking Amy where she was that night instead of picking up her daughters. He testified he didn't have any inkling Amy might have been involved in a serious accident until he noticed "odd" damage to the SUV the following morning and saw a news report about a man killed the night before on the Riverside Avenue exit ramp.

Joe has a rather unique taste in women, doesn't he?

-- Hat trip to David Brauer for pointing out the absurdity of Joe's "fiercely independent" remark.

Previous coverage:
-- Amy Senser opening statements: Senser will testify during trial
-- Joe Senser's bloody car seized in deadly hit and run
-- Amy Senser, Joe Senser's wife, was driving SUV at the time of deadly hit-and-run
-- Amy Senser was on cell phone during fatal accident, police say
-- Amy Senser was drinking the night she killed Phanthavong, prosecutor says

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Trina7green
Trina7green

Why does Joe repeatedly call her Margaret & then explain away her flakiness as "Amy's World" - shouldn't it be "Margaret's World"?   Way too much coaching.  And notice how dark "Margaret's" hair is for the trial after a witness reported seeing a blond hair woman driving the Mercedes.

Skeptical Sam
Skeptical Sam

What really bothers me is the hypocrisy here.  If we're supposed to believe that Amy didn't know she hit someone, then the only logical explanation would be some kind of impairment.  But they know they can't go that route.  So we try to coach everyone to play dumb and not remember.  If you think you only hit a cone and are sure you weren't involved, then why did it take so long to come forward?  And you would leave your teenage daughters in downtown Minneapolis to get a ride home around midnight because you're "fiercely independent"?  But the worst for me is this attempt to make the Sensers look like the victims.  Brittni received death threats...we need a change of venue because of all the pre-trial publicity...and now Joe boils over at the media for doing their jobs.  An innocent man died a violent death and we're trying to understand how and why.  Is that too much to ask, Joe?

wondering about amy
wondering about amy

first, thanks for allowing comments and for good reporting. interesting that the star tribune prevents posts about senser. strange that they are so openly biased in supporting joe. i agree with the people here who have said joe and amy have been well coached. you say the same thing many times over and it can become reality -- or an alternate reality. this is a couple that is not happy with their lives. the best part of joe's life is behind him. during a mid-life crisis he dumps his wife and marries a blonde cocktail waitress that works for him. stepdaughters resent her and the whole family slides further into dysfunction. they now have separate bedrooms and lots of silent treatment. once the trial is over, they will get divorced. joe's life will slide further downhill as age kicks in, his brand gets devalued, he's broke and few offers for business partnerships are extended. amy will serve time and come out angry at the entire world and entering into the depths of meth addiction. no good future scenario for either of these two.

AmyCanBlowMe
AmyCanBlowMe

Hopefully, this slutty bitch will get maximum prison time, and Big Bertha will have her way with her over and over and over and over and over again.

May she rot in hell like the slutty rich bitch that she is.  No penalty is too harsh for this whore.

Jubjub223
Jubjub223

Maybe he just loves his wife and has learned to accept her for who she is. Maybe she can't help it. Maybe she's doing the best she can.

Dave Troy
Dave Troy

Pardon me, but I'm not convinced that Amy isn't taking the fall for one of the kids. She has nothing to lose. They certainly do! They all have alcohol issues. They have careers to build, Amy has a treatment plan to make. Kids have futures, Amy has sugar daddy.

The beautiful thing is that now, even if it comes out that one of the kids (evil step-daughter perhaps) was actually behind the wheel, no jury would convict based on reasonable doubt.

Amy will likely get some time in the slammer (treatment). Kids continue their lives and careers. Nice planning, Mr. Defense Attorney! 

Ravermissmeliss
Ravermissmeliss

I assume the Sensers have a decent amount of money (ex Viking, restauranteur, house in Edina, Mercedes SUV, etc.), so...why doesn't Amy fix her face??  Get this drunk pill-popping mess a couple syringes of Juvederm, stat! 

swmnguy
swmnguy

This is getting worse and worse; sadder and sadder.  I'm not a professional in the field, and I don't have any information on the Senser family.  On the other hand, I have had close contact with some addicts and alcoholics, and the damage they do to their families is unbelievable if you haven't seen it firsthand for yourself.

It starts out with the person drinking or using too much in the wrong context.  Like showing up wasted for a teacher conference, or not picking up a kid at t-ball.  Excuses are made, and people accept them either out of politeness or the sense that we all have bad days.  A normal person would take that as a warning sign and get a grip on themselves.  The addict, however,  will take that acceptance from others as sanction from society to do absolutely whatever they want.  And they do.

I knew a guy who convinced his wife and kids, and co-workers and boss, that he had terminal cancer, and that's why he had to take all these highly narcotic painkillers all the time and wash them down with alcohol, and then do cocaine to stay awake.  An absolutely insane story, and yet he fooled them into believing it.  Until it came to light that he had embezzled from his work, stolen every cent his family had, even cash-out refinanced the home; and spent it all on dope.  His family and boss are intelligent people.  There's a very specific blindness to reality that sets in around the truly addicted, and it affects everyone around them in the most insidious, insane ways.

I'll repeat, I don't know the Sensers and I'm not a professional in the field.  But everything I hear or read about these people gives me a very familiar and excruciating feeling in the pit of my gut.

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

Anyone, who reveals the car that was involved in the accident but withholding the drivers' details and then waiting ten days to do so is guilty at the very least of preventing the course of justice, in my opinion. As Joe testified, he knew who was driving that car, but instead he called a lawyer and then handed over the car, and then waited ten days before handing over his dirty wife.

Durr
Durr

Solipsism doesn't allow you to get away with murder.

SarahinMpls
SarahinMpls

More and more information coming out that makes me think Joe is a slick liar.

His answers are too precise and succinct which tells me he was coached on what to say. His lawyer gave him the phrase "fiercely independent".

And also, Joe testified that he slept in his car outside daughter Brittani's place because she told him she received death threats but he wasn't able to give any details about the threats. Brittani later testified that Joe was lying and she never told him about any death threats.

Paul Comeau
Paul Comeau

yeah... besides the alcohol what little info we get from Joe in this article sounds a lot like a friends ex-wife before she got admitted for psych evaluation. At this point I hope, besides proper punishment, they order professional help too. ugg.

CJ
CJ

Wow...he is amazing. I know of no other person - man or woman - who would be a-okay with their partner just wandering off. I agree with everyone else here, his behavior sounds like that of an enabler. "If I don't acknowledge that this behavior is inappropriate and irresponsible, well then I don't have to deal with it." I did find it odd that he did ask her something (according to the Strib) about where she had been and he said she just smiled at him. What is that? Also one call was 8 minutes but he said he kept the line open that they didn't speak? It all just sounds like a giant load of crap. I hope she is convicted to the full extent of the law. If the damage was that extensive and she had known she hit something she would have checked.

Scott Drummond
Scott Drummond

Yeah.  I just don't really think most people believe anyone can be that flaky.   I think most people think Amy = cheating drunk and Joe = cuckold enabler.  I'd bet this is how the jury is adding it all up.  

taqee
taqee

the whole delay after the accident is the biggest "makes-you-wonder" moment. it'll boil down to what's admissible for jurors to utilize in determining the plausibility that she just didn't realize what had happened. that's why they're going with the flake defense - they really need to be like, yeah: it's possible she didn't realize she killed a guy and then forgot to pick up her kids.

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

This is really strange - apparently she used to just go off in her own world and often not pick up the kids - which would then ring daddy for a ride.  This is beginning to detail that Amy Senser just isn't living in reality.  It may be because she is a recovering alcoholic or something like that.  how on earth could she just get lost and then drive home that fatal night?  If you were picking up the kids and you were lost, would you not stop and get directions?  More so, the first thing this family does is get a lawyer and stay silent for 10 days even though they call the police and tell them that the car is in the garage?  She woman is guilty by all accounts.

Eat
Eat

Does anyone from this family really believe that anyone is buying the bullshit they are selling?

I hope Joe's patrons run his ass out of business for the way he's acting.  A man died, and all they can think about is covering their own asses.  If I hit and killed a person, there wouldn't even be a trial.  It's like their whole family suffers congenital cancer of the morals.

ViaChicago
ViaChicago

They are as dysfunctional as everyone else. The only difference is that none of our family members ran anyone over and left them there to die. Let's hear it for one year in Shakopee, 8 years probation, a million dollar wrongful death settlement and a public apology from Margaret

Albatross
Albatross

Of course "flaking out" was part of her personality. She's an alcoholic and the entire family is a typical alcoholic family system, with Joe as the enabler. And like many alcoholics Amy drove drunk and killed someone and is trying to avoid responsibility for her drunken behavior. How many times does this have to play out in our culture before we get a clue?

SarahinMpls
SarahinMpls

Is that you **Joe**? 

You ARE an enabler if you really believe "maybe she can't help it".

Ravermissmeliss
Ravermissmeliss

One of the attorneys I used to work for said the same thing - he thinks it was one of the daughters, and Amy is just trying to cover for her. 

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 This is very contrived - it's clear that the lawyers are pulling the strings.  What is extremely sad too is that Joe has a broken family with an alcoholic and disillusioned wife. 

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 I don't are if they get help - but it does sound like children know what is going on and have the morals to stand up to the drunken amy slut.

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 sounds to me she was drunk or when she hit the poor guy she dropped the phone.

Joe
Joe

Obviously the defense thniks Amy will be so likeable in front of the jury that when they hear her speak they will believe her story. Most likely the defense has had her practicing the story for the last month. Probably have hired a prosecuting attorney for Amy to practice answering questions under cross examination.  She has been likely been coached over many months how to behave on the stand, how to answer questions, how to dress and the story to tell. The defense attorney has also likely made sure to have a few jury members who will be awestruck at celebrity (ex football player status) and will buy the story based on the celebrity status.

amiller92
amiller92

Why is the cheating part necessary?  Are there indications of that?

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 Who is going to believe she forgets to pick up kids, or just wonders off incommunicado?  sounds very reckless!

SarahinMpls
SarahinMpls

An expert testified the GPS in their Mercedes didn't have the destination Xcel Energy Center OR the Senser's home address in its records. If she was truly lost, why didn't she use the GPS to either get back to Xcel or get home?  Of course the answer will be that GPS doesn't exist in "AmyWorld".  OR perhaps it will be that "fiercely independent" Amy doesn't use GPS.

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 I hope his businesses go under - I am still surprised that people eat at his crap places anyway.

Even Joe's kids do not like Amy.

ludwigtr
ludwigtr

one year!?  for killing someone?

That's BS.

SarahinMpls
SarahinMpls

 Joe and Amy first hooked up when she was a waitress at one of his bars.  I'd like to know if Joe was divorced by the time he got involved with her because if  they were cheating on Joe's 1st wife it indicates their propensity for lying.

Scott Drummond
Scott Drummond

The prosecutor asked Joe if Amy ever lied.  Joe said no.   Then the prosecutor asked if Amy had ever lied about having an affair and Joe said he never asked.  

The legal consensus is that the prosecutor couldn't get away with asking that question (e.g. the defense would have objected) if the prosecutor didn't have evidence Amy cheated on Joe.  

JonnyRockstar1234
JonnyRockstar1234

 Because AmyWorld = Drunken coked up slut.  What's pretty amazing is that Joe settles for this.  That guy must have low self esteem. 

Bubba
Bubba

Joe Senser no longer owns the bars that bear his name if I remember correctly.  

SarahinMpls
SarahinMpls

 I vote booze and pills. 

Booze because people who open their own bars like to drink and be around it and eventually the immersion in a booze-filled world results in alcoholism, then they turn to pills to mitigate the effects of the liquor.

Dave Troy
Dave Troy

"..through sickness and health.."

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