Marcus Bachmann's clinics still practicing ex-gay therapy, says new undercover report

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Bachmann's therapists are allegedly still trying to pray away the gay.
Up until last year, Marcus Bachmann denied that his Bachmann & Associates clinics practiced ex-gay therapy. That is, until John Becker outed one of Bachmann's counselors for providing the "service" with an undercover video last summer. Bachmann later admitted that his clinics perform ex-gay therapy upon request.

Despite the shit-storm of negatively publicity Becker's scoop generated, a documentary filmmaker revealed on Tuesday that Bachmann's clinics are still practicing ex-gay therapy. Kristina Lapinski, 24, went undercover last week for some ex-gay counseling at Bachmann's Burnsville office.

She recorded the session with a camera pen, and the footage will be released this fall as part of a GAY U.S.A. the Movie project.

Lapinski had an appointment last Thursday with Sheila Marker, a licensed therapist specializing in women's pre-marital counseling.

She told Marker she's a confused young lesbian who recently moved from California to Minnesota to marry a long-time male friend who she respects but isn't sexually attracted to. You can probably see where this is going.

From Lapinski's account of the session:
[Marker] asked me if I could "pray for a miracle to happen and wake up in the morning and have it be true, what would I wish for?"

I said "money, success, a happy loving environment with friends and family."

She was clearly implying that my miracle would be the getting rid of my "desire" which she referred to as 'same sex attraction.'
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Lapinski took this photo of herself on the way into Bachmann's clinic.
Later during the session, Marker advised Lapinski to 'give her problems to the Lord and he could take them away.' After Lapinski told Marker that she isn't sexually attracted to her fiance and hasn't yet slept with him, Marker allegedly told her, "how can you know [how sex with him will be] until you try?"

The session ended with a prayer where Marker asked the Lord to take away Lapinski's "desire" so that she can pursue a satisfying relationship with her fiance.

In a blog post recounting Lapinski's experience, Becker blasts Bachmann & Associates for continuing to practice the controversial make-me-straight therapy.

"So it would appear that Bachmann & Associates has disgraced itself once again," Becker writes. "These people just don't get it: you can't pray away the gay. Their arrogance (or maybe it's stupidity?) is astonishing."

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Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

 Hugglez24 We reported what happened in the office of Bachmann Clinic at GAY USA the Movie. We stand 100% by our report. It can be found on our website,. This was done for the Film GAY USA he Movie. The release is 9/2012. .

Many other outlets picked up our report and we have no control over how they chose to report the events. Bachmann Clinic was the target.

Mrs. Marker was a mere conduit. But her daughter came on and blew this up thereby exposing herself to the comments of others, not just here but all over the internet, and people contacted us directly and revealed their stories  which I have NEVER published and have no interest in publishing.  

Erika came on line and slandered our production and us personally, 

 Erika herself came on line and said she was sent  for an ex-gay cure- see TWO site..  She should have realized that she made herself and her mother a target when she went on all major sites declaring she was GAY and "fully accepted by her mother." She chose to insert herself. No one else's doing. 

After Erika  Marker revealed herself in comments online, - we sent her about 4 emails plus online comments asking her to contact us directly and offered for her to be on GAY uSA the Movie - to come and be part of the Movie to talk about her experience with her mother accepting her as a lesbian - but she has chosen to ignore us. 

So yes we agree with you Hugglez24 - that would be nice - but she has refused to acknowledge our private emails and instead opted for an online attack.  

My integrity is perfectly intact, thank you- especially with my community which knows the extent of my work and commitment to LGBTI equality and I invite you to check out the extent of my personal commitment to LGBT rights at my Blog at www.oblogdeeoblogda.wordpress.... and at www.visualcv.com/melnathan   By the way unlike those working at Bachmann - all my work has been pro bono and I make no money doing this at all.

Hugglez94
Hugglez94

sounds to me like you are spreading gossip, first about Sheila and now about Erica. do you know what gossip is melanie? Gossip is idle talk or rumors about the personal or private affairs of others. until you release the audio of the therapy session, logically, it is just idle talk from you. And until you talk to Erica herself about her and her mother's past, logically, it is just rumors. I feel you are doing an injustice to our community. one, you are alienating someone from the community and her family, who, although her mom is not ready to lead the march for marriage equality, obviously has grown to love and accept her daughter and her sexuality. two, sheila is obviously not the woman you are portraying her to be and that in itself weakens any argument from you.  honestly, if anything, instead of ostracizing the girl and chiding her mother, you should be looking to them for input about how her and her family have overcome these religious obstructions to true love and equality. they have first hand knowledge of both sides of the struggle..... also, while i do not know Erica personally, I am from the area and would just like to stress to you the way people like to gossip about each other and (for lack of a better phrase) just straight up talk shit about others in the community. the people that are telling you all that shit are most likely misrepresenting her to you, much like your misrepresentation of her mother.... Also, in my humble opinion, you are not helping the integrity of your work or the film (which is a great idea and needed in our country) by first eliciting gossip from some anonymous person who, probably doesn't even know the girl personally, and then touting to the internet about how you have all that gossip and it is so difficult not to tell everyone.... 

Babs
Babs

 Melanie, why keep touting about the film release? regardless of what you put in it, you should still release the video in its un-cut entirety. this whole thing is way off topic, the topic is the so called therapy. let us know what was really said and there would be nothing to argue about. it would be black and white.

truth wins
truth wins

Erika is trying to rewrite history.  the lesbian community is quite small in mpls and lakeville and many of us remember your drunken rants about your family's horrendous treatment of you because you were gay, like being sent to ex-gay camp.  That is great news if this has all changed!  But neither you nor your mom is the victim.  The true victims are the young people in this country who are made to feel ashamed, who are told or led to believe there is something innately wrong with them.  That is the true crime your mother and others like her commit on a daily basis.  I am sure your mom is a great person, but like so many others she adheres to the 'love the sinner hate the sin' mentality which is not only absurd but can be quite harmful since there is an automatic belief that there is something wrong with being yourself - gay or straight and that it is simply a choice.  Erika instead of spending all your time on websites posting the same things over and over again, talk to your mom, have your friends talk to your mom about the real harms her thinking can cause.  No real and decent therapist or counselor would ever let people deny a part of themselves or feel shame.    

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

It is very nice to see that Ms. Marker went on her Facebook page and rallied her friends and family to defend her mother  on the one hand that is what all good daughters should do. But unfortunately Ms. marker and firnds clearly have no idea what this means to the gay community - We are not the first to expose the Bachmann Clinic. 

Both Kristina and I are not interested in fame or money. We have spent all our personal resources making this film - for two years now - and it has been heart wrenching to watch the struggles of gay kids, talk to moms whose kids have committed suicide, speak to Americans who are living in  exile because they cannot bring a same-sex spouse into America because of the discrimination imposed by DOMA. We are doing this because we believe in equality and at the base of equality is acceptance - that if I am gay - it is okay! That is what Sheila Marker and all at Bachmann should be telling their clients when faced with options such as I have a fiance but I am not attracted to him - I felt true love for a woman.  They should not choose even for the commitment of a fiance - that is inserting personal belief into a session. She should have explored both options equally and not prayed the "desire" away.  It denoted unacceptance to a confused person who needs therapy - real therapy - to reach conclusions. Prayer is for Church and priests. Christina did not choose a Church! She wanted to hear options Marker say - maybe you should reconsider this marriage if you are gay. But Marker could not accept the gay part!

In other words therapy should trump religion even in a Christian counseling center . If it does not then  tax payer money should not be used.

All interpretations of the original article were out of our control at GAYUSA the Movie, but clearly fed off the Bachmann clinic reputation.

Until Ms. Marker came on line and exposed her family, touting that she had once had an experience with "cure" the gay stuff,  (see comments on truth Wins Out) no one would have cared less about Sheila Marker herself- all people cared about as can be seen from thousands of comments on the internet is the Bachmanns. Yes, bad choice by the mom of a lesbian daughter to work for the clinic. Sorry that happened to you Ms. Marker and even more sorry that yu too have been the subject of cure gay practices as you noted on Truth Wins Out.  That said it is time for you and your friends to back out of this as you are bringing attention to your mother instead of the Clinic per se. Your mother was never the target as can be clearly seen from my original article reporting this event. 

We have done our job - what we set out to do for the film. If we decide to include this in the film which will be released in September 2012, then you will have a chance to see it for yourself. In the meantime we are onto the next State and I might add very little of the film is sensationalist - it is just story after story ABOUT UNFAIRNESS AND DISCRIMINATION IN  AMERICA.  I hope you are voting against the Constitutional Amendment in your State! Melanie Nathan from GAY USA the Movie

Apackage4me
Apackage4me

So if your Catholic does that make you a pedophile? The Bachmanns may be trying to be the anti gay police but don't dump that on anyone else until you have proof. This sounds like a witch hunt of a Christian counselor who has a very deep love in her savior and is caring and compassionate. I am a member of the LGBTQ community and see this as an embarrassment. 

Womanphoenix
Womanphoenix

Funny how Marcus Bachmann's surrogates are sent to do battle in this comments thread, while Marcus himself stays away.

Tired
Tired

Sheila Marker, lovely Christian woman by all accounts, specializes in pre-martial women's counseling. In the comments we have her daughter and her partner who are living together, but the partner hadn't met the Sheila until after the u-haul shackup?Sheila sounds really good at counseling people. Her own family? Not so much.In closing, the Bachmanns suck. He's gay, she's retarded.

sandy
sandy

Having read this article I feel sad, disappointed, and disheartened.  As a family friend of the Marker's, I personally know Sheila to be a kind, generous, loving woman who openly accepts each individual for who they are and how they behave. Having been through some tough personal situations myself, I know that Sheila is the type of woman who doesn't press her personal beliefs upon others. Not once has she EVER told me to pray anything away. Not once has she EVER made me feel as if my lack of religion makes me an inferior human being. Not once has she EVER tried to impress upon me her personal, spiritual, or christian opinions. 

As it has been pointed out in previous comments, Sheila works at a Christian Counseling Clinic. Ms. Lapinski went to a Christian counseling center and told her professional therapist lies in order to solicit quips that she hoped would be news worthy. I am not sure how she can extrapolate from the fragmented phrases mentioned above that Sheila was trying to "pray away the gay." No marriage counsellor is going to tell their patient to give up or to turn their back on hard, emotional, relationship work. The point of counseling is to work through the tough times and into a place where the couple can be happy both as individuals and as part of a team. The statements quoted in the article seem to me as if Sheila was playing the Devil's advocate saying hypothetically "how can you know for sure if you haven't tried?" She is not saying you must do this or you must do that. She is not saying that "desire" in regards to a same sex relationship is the issue with Ms. Lapinski. It seems to me that having that "desire" to be with someone other than your partner in the first place is the piece that she is questioning. I am not a therapist, but I am sure that regardless of faith or beliefs, most marriage counsellors are going to endorse having a monogamous relationship which is why Sheila prayed (remember she DOES work at a Christian Counseling Clinic) to help Ms. Lapinski overcome her "desire" and have a satisfying relationship with her fiancé. 

It is people like Ms. Lapinski who are so narrow minded, so bent on finding flaws in the system, so tied up in exposing the "truth" that they end up spinning a story based on a half truths, partial quotes, and outright slanderous statements. Sheila's picture is posted, her life's work has been questioned, and she has been deceived and lied to. Put yourself in her shoes and re-read the article and what it implies with the sparse evidence that Ms. Lapinski provides. She probably had not done her homework and had no idea that Sheila herself has a daughter that is openly lesbian. She probably has no idea that Sheila goes through her daily life acting upon the best wishes of others instead of looking at the world through her own beliefs. If anything, Sheila has the ability to empathize with anyone; to understand their situation and to feel as they feel. It is this innate ability that she possesses that makes her an excellent therapist. She is supportive but not judgmental, she is kind but she is firm, she is honest but still kind, and she always, ALWAYS, looks at the world as having the glass half full. If she wants to pray to her Lord on behalf of something that you imply while asking for help and guidance why wouldn't she do that and how does it hurt you? She's not making you pray, she's not making you suffer. You sought her out, you paid her money, and you asked for help from a woman (at a Christian Counseling Clinic) that believes that her God helps those that ask for it. Obviously she is going to pray for guidance. 

You, Ms. Lapinski, are manipulative, cruel, and slanderous. Shame on you for trying to ruin this poor woman's life. 

Tara
Tara

If Kristina Lapinski's hit piece was intended to reenforce the idea that Marcus Bachmann is secretly an "ex-gay therapy" center, it had the very opposite effect on me.  I was actually under the impression that it was until I read this depiction of Sheila Marker (a person I know not to be, in any way, anti-gay) and the ugly picture they tried to paint of her.

What it revealed to me was that people like Miss Lapinski are such anti-religious bigots that they view commonplace Christian suppression of sexual desire as some kind of radical and nefarious assault on normal human sexuality.

If Sheila Maker had urged a non-Christian young woman to pray for less sexual desire to cheat on her fiancé, I would have been shocked and appalled.  But all she did was try to comfort and advise a young person who was struggling with her choice of holding fast to her religious creed, a challenge faced by both gay and straight people of many sects of Christianity, Islam and several other religions which believe that one should put family commitments ahead of sexual fulfillment.

You can call monogamy/chastity and the religious suppression of sexual desire unhealthy if you like (and I certainly do), but it's how millions of people live and is central to their value systems, and to shame them for living according to their beliefs is just as narrow-minded and hateful as those who shun gays.

Those who wish to promote tolerance and love should take extra care not to be intolerant.

theoko
theoko

I'm very concerned about this article and wish the author and editor had been more concerned as well.  There is a lot of implication and innuendo, but no smoking gun.  Still, the name and picture of the therapist is posted.  This smacks of fomenting an irresponsible witch hunt and to my mind is clearly a "don't go there" type of situation.

Oh, and I'm no fan of Bachmann, homophobia, conservatives, etc. 

Mark Bradby
Mark Bradby

It seems to me that Lapinsky informed the therapist that she was a lesbian but wanted to marry a man. It is not a leap for the therapist to try and facilitate that and doesn't betray a bais against same sex attraction. Should the therapist have said "you are a lesbian and have no business wanting to marry a man..."? That wouldn't have been very supportive.The other thing that bugs me about this article is that it does not appear to follow standard journalistic practice of getting a statement from both sides. It appears to me that this therapist was genuinely trying to help someone and now her and her family have been dragged into the gutter because she happens to work for the husband of an ex presidential candidate.All I can say is that you can't fight for a true cause by spreading lies and half truths...

John Titor
John Titor

I'm no fan of the Bachmanns, but I can't help feeling this is a bit like the Shirley Sherrod thing. We don't know anything about how Lipinski presented her problems to the counselor. Did she talk about wanting to have a "satisfying relationship" with her fictional fiance? Did she lay bits & pieces of information out to goad Marker into saying what she wanted to hear (and record)?

Any sane, thinking person would reserve judgment on this until they have all the relevant info. Or better yet, ignore the story altogether.

Maggiewerhan
Maggiewerhan

I am a lesbian woman living in Saint Paul with my beautiful girlfriend. For Easter I was invited over to her families house for dinner. I was very nervous because this would be the first time I have met her family and I knew they were religious, unlike myself. Right away when I stepped in the door my girlfriends mother gave me a hug and made me feel so very welcome in her home. She was kind and attentive and never once made me feel awkward or ashamed that I was in a relationship with her daughter, who she loves very much. The afternoon was a perfect "meet the parents" situation. My girlfriends mother even made it a point to send her a text saying how nice it was to meet me, and yes she liked me. That mother was Sheila Marker. This post is borderline slander of a good woman who loves her gay daughter. What Christian woman would advise any engaged person to explore sexually outside of the commitment she has made to another person? I can't image her ever advising some one to "pray the gay away" but I can see her advising some one to explore their love to the person they are engaged to which is what it sounds like she did.

AnExerciseInFrugality
AnExerciseInFrugality

So now we can cast judgement on those who "imply" things without any sort of proof? First of all, nothing in that statement implied anything except finding out what would make Lapinski genuinely happy. I heard nothing in there that indicated "fixing" her homosexuality. What she said was clearly taken out of context and to me sounds pretty clearly like Lapinski indicated she would rather be with her fiance, and in which case, why wouldn't Sheila Marker encourage her to be with him. Think about it: If I went to Sheila as a straight woman and said "Hey, I am thinking about leaving my fiance for another man" would she encourage me to do it? Probably not. Secondly-Lapinski sounds like someone who is twisting words and manipulating situations to get herself and her movie in the spotlight. What she doesn't realize is that sort of rogue behavior is actually damaging to her cause. Thirdly- I know Sheila Marker and her daughter Erika personally (went to school and played sports with Erika) and I can safely say that without a doubt that this is a case of twisted words. The media has a nasty habit of taking quotes out of context. Let's hear the whole conversation before we judge. When will activists like Lapinski learn that by manipulating things and sensationalizing stories to create drama only HURT the cause they are actually trying to support. If you want people to support your cause, don't go lying about what's really happening.

Chell
Chell

I actually have first hand experience with this, and was treated with high levels of respect at this clinic. I was actually shocked my Christian therapist was so open and helpful. He never tried to push ex-gay practices on me. His quote was actually "who ever you end up with, it's my job to make sure you are in a healthy relationship" I guess each practicing thererapist has their own agenda though.

Erika Marker
Erika Marker

I am gay and my mother loves and accepts me. My girlfriend and I went to Easter dinner with my family at my parents house. I am upset that you would try to portray a wonderful woman like my mother in this way. She is a CHRISTIAN counselor. Of course she is going to tell you to pray not to mention, Christians believe that giving the lord your problems is the thing to do with ANY problem, not just your sexual desires. furthermore, as a marriage counselor, of course she is not going to encourage your "desires" for people other than your fiance, whether it is for women or men. she is going to encourage you to stay true to your commitment. I believe that you are the one being arrogant, or maybe it is stupidity.

FellowHuman
FellowHuman

Umm, excuse me, but if God can create the universe in twenty minutes or seven days or whatever, and make it SEEM like evolution happened (but only to sinners!) then surely he can lovingly remove people's personalities/dispositions from their heads just because they asked him to...

If they really think that, why aren't they busy trying to get people to 'pray away the rapist-thoughts?' or 'Murder-stabbies?'

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

Hugglez24 We reported what happened in the office of Bachmann Clinic at GAY USA the Movie. We stand 100% by our report. It can be found on our website,. This was done for the Film GAY USA he Movie. The release is 9/2012. . Many other outlets picked up our report and we have no control over how they chose to report the events. Bachmann Clinic was the target. Mrs. Marker was a mere conduit. But her daughter came on and blew this up as an attack on her mother,  thereby exposing herself to the comments of others, all over the internet, and people contacted us directly and revealed their stories (not mine) which I have NEVER published and have no interest in publishing.   Erika also came on line and slandered our production and us personally, where we were doing our work to expose Bachmann Clinic.  We will only show relevant portions and nothing personal to Sheila Marker's life.  The tapes indeed speak for themselves but will not be released until the movie. We have no need to - Please show me where I have spread rumors?  Erika herself came on line and said she was sent  for an ex-gay cure.  She should have realized that she made herself and her mother a target the minute she wh=ent on all major sites declaring she was GAY and accepted by her family.

NOTEWE INVITED  Ms. marker through about 4 separate emails plus online comments to contact us personally and to come on the Movie to talk about her experience with her mother acepting her as a lesbian but she has chosen to ignore us.  So yes we agree with you - that would be nice but she has refused to acknowledge our private  emails and instead opted for an online attack.   My integrity is excellent with my community and I invite yu to check out the etxten of my personal commitment to LGBT rights at my Blog at www.oblogdeeoblogda.wordpress.... and at www.visualcv.com/melnathan

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

  The film is due for release in September 2012., If you go to our BLOG at http://gayusathemovie.com/2012... you will see Kristina's account.  We do not have time to cut out stuff from the Video that I think will be more embarrassing to Mrs. Marker.and we are shooting a film with very little resources and funding - we really cant take the time to do that and manage all the flak that will go with it. Just read our account - and wait for the film.There is no argument as far as we are concerned we really do not care beyond exposing Bachmann at the right time.

Rock In Rainbows
Rock In Rainbows

 why do you need to personally attack Erika over the internet without even revealing who you are? that is pretty fucking cowardly. I was looking at another site where someone said something similar, I am guessing that is you wins. obviously it is your job to surf around posting the same things on different sites? hypocritical comes to mind not to mention, why should anyone head advice from someone who is too afraid to let themselves be known. what are you afraid of? you are pigeon-hear-ted and clouded in anonymity,  talking about being brave and honest. maybe you should take some of your own advice.

Carm
Carm

Can't wait to see the film.

I get the impression Ms Marker and her facebook pals are quite young, with no regards to the gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders and queers of every stripe who have walked before her, those that have been beaten, been murdered, been fired, been attacked, humiliated, raped and worse, and fought the fight and done the work. Protested, worked, shown up, put themselves in the line of fire so gays can have the modicum of decent treatment we mostly get now.

She and her pals have no clue and no respect for how hard it's been. They take it for granted that they can come out and be a trendy young dyke in this culture.

Shrug. Maybe they'll get it someday. Maybe she'll see"my mom accepts me as gay" and "my mom works at a reparation therapy clinic that tries to 'pray away the gay' " does not equate. Hopefully.

7txn4ever
7txn4ever

 You're not a very good member if you're trying stand up for the Bachmann clinic or anyone who works there.

Gringo
Gringo

How any self-respecting woman, especially gay, could rally to support this nonsense is beyond me. I get it: they attacked mommy. The real issue is Bachmann & Assoc offers reparative therapy. They believe being gay is a mental disorder to be cured. They believe women to be 2nd class citizens. That gays have no rights as far as legal protections in marriage. They are the kind of fanatical right wing crazy that (thankfully) has been rejected. Michelles failed campaign. Santorums failed campaign. The alignment of such savory characters as Bradley Dean. Good for Lapinski. Keep exposing these bible thumping bigots for what they are. Faux Christians who want church and state intertwined, while claiming to be constitutionalists... It makes no sense, at all, on any level.

Ariel
Ariel

"He's gay, she's retarded" - you sound intelligent. How can you deduce her mental abilities, or as you say lack-there-of, from the article and the comments? 

daughterofGod
daughterofGod

@sandy I AGREE 1000%. SANDY. SHEILA MARKER IS ONE OF THE SWEETEST KINDEST, NON-JUDGMENTAL PERSONS I HAVE EVER MET AND IT  APPALLING TO SEE HER  NAME AND HER FAMILY'S NAME TRASHED. GOD HAS HIS WAY OF DEALING WITH THOSE WHO SPREAD VICIOUS RUMORS.


I FIND THIS BLOG ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE AND IT REPRESENTS NOTHING BUT PURE ADULTERATED HATEFULNESS. ANYONE WHO KNOWS SHEILA ALSO KNOWS THAT THE THINGS WRITTEN HERE ARE NOTHING BUT LIES. SHEILA IS VERY CARING, VERY RESPECTFUL, AND VERY SWEET. SHE WILL GO THE EXTRA MILE FOR ANYONE.


THIS BLOG EPITOMIZES EVIL IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD AND WHAT GOES AROUND WILL SURELY COME AROUND AND SOMEONE WILL GOSSIP AND SLANDER YOUR NAME, BUT IT WILL BE A LOT WORSE.


THIS BLOG IS NOT ABOUT THE MARKERS BUT SATAN'S BROADCAST OF PURE ADULTERATED EVIL AND IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN DOWN. I WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO CONTINUE TO LIFT THIS WOMAN'S NAME UP IN A POSITIVE LIGHT AND I REFUSE TO LET YOU RUIN HER REPUTATION WITH DECEPTION, GOSSIP, AND RUMORS. SHAME ON YOU ALL WHO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF GARBAGE. SHAME ON YOU. AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS.

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

It seems yoou are misinformed. It seems according to Erika Marker that she was sent to ex-gay camp as a child/teen., where they tried to exorcise her and cure her from being gay- See her comments at TWO site !

This to the gay community is considered the highest form of intolerance and unacceptance - it is downright cruel! 

For you to come on here and dare insult and defame Kristina for doing the work a wonderful committed activist for equality who you do not know-  - the way you have done is shameful and quite ignorant.

You are insulting the entire gay community with your remarks.

Kristina 's mission was not easy. She almost did not go in for fear. The event made her sick for three hours after. She had a mission and it was not easy to do. She exposed a practice that is unaccptable in a specific Clinic,.

and now it seems that Erika Marker herself has added to the picture by exposing her mother in a way we would never have done - Sheila Marker does not believe a person should be okay being gay!

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

Thanks for disparaging our work! We did what we set out to do - to expose the Bachmann Clinic,  Marker was available and so she was chosen from the list. It seems now that your fully gay accepting friend may have sent her kid to ex-gay camp; the highest form of cruelty to a gay child and denotes absolute lack of acceptance. It also explains what she was thinking when she treated Kristina. ! We had no idea about that. Until Erika came on line and told people herself- see the TWO site. 

Unlike your inference, we are indeed promoting tolerance and love and equality -  that is precisely why we are exposing bigots who are trying to merge church and state and through this foster the denial of equality to millions of LGBT Americans THAT and only that is the reason we are making this film!

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

The original article by GAY USA does not pronounce upon Ms. Markel at all but rather upon the practice of  Bachmann Clinic.  At no time did Lapinski say she encouraged pre-marital sex, quite the contrary. Some Bloggers have misinterpreted the original post. Sorry but we had no control over how others would deal with this story. For exactly what happened go to the original at GAYUSAthemovie' site  http://gayusathemovie.com/2012...

Lkvsweetie07
Lkvsweetie07

I am another one ofSheila Marker's daughters and I can say with certainty that Ms.Lapinski is doing an injustice to both her cause and her reputation by attempting to cast my mother in a negative light. As prior posts have articulated, the quotesextracted from the counseling session do not portray my mother as a “gaybasher," nor, as the article so eloquently states, is she trying to"pray away the gay."  If one is seeking counseling from aChristian, marriage counselor, what exactly are their expectations? It does nottake an overly intelligent person to know that Christianity does not condonesame sex relations and/or infidelity, and that is clearly what Ms.Lapinksi was expressing her desires to be. SHE made the decision to seekcounseling for her hypothetical problems, obviously any counselor would believethat her client was in need of guidance from not only the Lord but also afellow Christian. This is an ignorant article and amisleading/malicious "documentary." It does not uncover thehidden agenda at Bachmann’s; rather it highlights the ignorance of anindividual reporter. It is disheartening to know that a person thinks littlefor the well-being of others. Ms. Lapinski appears ruthless as she claws herway to fame; if any person is to be criticized in print it should beher and not a godly woman who is trying to uphold the sanctity ofmarriage and the Christian lifestyle. Sorry but this article is honestly justfoolish.  

 

As for my sister, whom Ilove very much, I can attest to Maggie's experience. I was also at Easter lunchand witnessed the interaction first time. She was welcomed with open arms andwith no questions or prejudice. Erika has been openly gay for some time and I,along with my mother, love her just as much as we did prior to her coming out.I myself am not a lesbian; however, I am comfortable with my sister's decisionsin life. 

Eyemtappy2
Eyemtappy2

Christianity as practiced is flawed. Figure it out for yourself. Your sexuality has nothing to do with your religion. The person who went to Bachman and Assoc. was obviously looking for evidence to show others what their therapy was really about and was religion based. I am glad your mother accepts you as you are, as I would any of my children. They are part of me, I am good so therefore, they must be.

Joe
Joe

 LOL at 'murder-stabbies'.

Sounds like something I get on Mondays...

Melanie Nathan
Melanie Nathan

 Actually Truth Wins whomever that is is not vilifying Erika but making a critical point.  I am the co-producer of the documentary and helped Kristina plan the visit to Bachmann's clinic. You can read my version from the link on this site to GAY USA the Movie. You will note that Ms. Sheila Marker , Erika's mother was never directly a target, we were willing to use any available therapist at the clinic. She was the only one available. We did what we set out to do! Expose the practices at the Bachmann Clinic. Anyone who works there should no better with all the publicity Marcus Bachmann already received about his clinic. Fair game!

As soon as our article went up all the other bloggers like Advocate, HUFFPO , TOWLE etc picked it up and ran their versions of the story. Then out of the blue comes Erika Marker who we had no idea existed before this. She painted her mother as a loving Christian woman which I am sure she is. She could have stopped there, but she went on to attack us and call us liars etc. based on her assertion that her mother is fully gay accepting. 

We reached out to her via private email and instead of erika talking to us she chose to go on every site carrying the story to disparage Kristina and I and GAYUSA the Movie. As I said this was fair game. Until Erika went on her universal rant most commentators did not give a rats behind about Sheila Marker but rather were all into the fact that Bachmann Clinic is the villain. Instead Erika brought her family in by outing herself on line and proclaiming her mother's perfection on the issue

Erika was then really negligent when she herselfexposed on the Truth Wins Out Site that she had been sent for a "cure" and form of exeorcism, but she never said at the hands of her family. Being a lawyer when I saw her comment I thought wow that is odd- no adult sends themselves off to ex-gay cures - and I left a comment saying Erika were you under 18 and was it your mom who sent you there?  Since leaving that comment no one has heard another word from Erika on this issue.

Suddenly this comment by Truth Wins appears and I am very grateful to that person because it helps kristina and I to feel vindicated because we were under attack by Erika and her friends for exposing her mother.r who she announced had the perfect record of gay acceptance

 She exposed her own mother - we had no idea and we were only interested in Bachmann. I think sending one's child to ex-gay camp is one of the highest forms of abuse and negligence on the part of a parent. Thank you for confirming this Truth Wins and if you would like to tell me more I can be reached via melanie@gayusathemovie.com  I will keep you as a confidential source Melanie Nathan

7txn4ever
7txn4ever

Reading is hard, huh? Try to wrap your head around who is retarded. Is it the 'pray away the gay' Xtian non-counselor, her daughter who went on Facebook to troll the comments with MY MOM IZ TEH AWESOME or is is Michele Bachmann who told us gardasil gives young women retardation, who once screamed for her life when encountered by a "real life lesbian" in a bathroom, who gamed the census to get herself knocked out of her own district, who failed at everything, who believes women are subservient to men, yet ran a failed bid for POTUS and who is by all accounts dumber that Sarah Palin, as far as bimbos in politics go? Huh, Sandy? Which one???

N0b0dys1
N0b0dys1

Erika's mother is not a bigot. you just like throwing that word around because it gets people all fried up. while committed to her beliefs, she is obviously not intolerantly ignorant  and one must have prejudices in order to be a bigot. which if she did, there never would have been the work in progress in her household to love and accept Erika and she certainly wouldn't have been able to bring her girlfriend with her. you are not promoting tolerance and love because otherwise you would be praising this woman and her overcoming her religious issues with Erika's sexuality. You wold be using her as an example of what unconditional love can do. which is overcome preconceived, judgmental notions of a person based on a personal characteristics. i.e. one's sexuality, gender, social class, race or ethnicity and yes even RELIGION. if you ask me, You, are the one that is displaying the bigotry. Sheila is obviously not the person you are trying to make her out to be.  

N0b0dys1
N0b0dys1

Erika WAS the lesbian community in Lakeville. There weren't any other openly lesbian/queer women in that city until after her time there. there are some now that are open but it is long after they are done with High school. I was not really friends with her and was much younger, But I know that I personally benefited from the GLBTQ club that SHE STARTED and plenty of other people my age did too. not to mention during her time in High School it became less and less OK to pick on people because of their identity. I remember one time she heard some jock calling my friend a faggot and she got right up in his face and got him to leave us alone. I looked up to her then because she was the only one with the courage to be proud and be loud about who she was, despite what her religious family thought, and would stand up for others that were being persecuted. I look up to her even more now, knowing that she loved them enough to not give up on them and they loved her enough not to give up on her. most people that have this kind of religious battle with their sexuality and their family, it is the undoing of them. whether they are then banished from the family or they begin the acceptance process.  it is not like all of a sudden they love and support you,  it is a continuous struggle, one that has little victories and each of them are significant, at least to the people that are involved and directly affected by. You obviously have no appreciation for how hard that struggle is, or how long it takes with people of strong, conflicting convictions. That or you lack the commitment that Erika and her family have to each other. As far as I am concerned Erika is a strong woman who has overcome some seriously scary conditions in her youth and is a better person because of it, along with her family. and you are just an asshole who is talking shit. probably because you were jealous of her or secretly hated her for being so confident and un-apologetic, or secretly in love with her. (my friend was too) whatever it is, it is sad. you are sad. your self righteousness is a true crime

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