Ron Paul actually won Minnesota's GOP presidential caucus, it turns out

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Surprise! Minnesota isn't Santorum Country after all.
Remember all that stuff you read about Rick Santorum winning Minnesota's February Republican presidential caucus?

Forget you ever saw it. Because last weekend, the Republican votes that matter the most were cast at Minnesota's district conventions, and Ron Paul won the majority of them.

Paul won 20 of the 24 national delegates decided last weekend. 13 more will be awarded at next month's statewide GOP convention, where Paul is also expected to do well.

Minnesota's February caucus is non-binding. The state's official nomination of a presidential candidate doesn't happen until the statewide convention, and delegates aren't mandated to vote for the candidate they supported during the caucus.

Consider 2008. That year, Romney trounced his competitors during the Minnesota caucus, winning 41 percent of the vote compared to second-place John McCain's 22 percent. But by the time the state convention came around in late May, McCain had emerged as the national choice, and the Minnesota delegates fell in line, awarding all 41 of the state's delegates to the Arizona senator.

Paul's delegates still could line up behind Romney come convention time, but that seems unlikely -- Paul has repeatedly said he plans to remain in the race all the way through the Republican National Convention in August.

During the February caucus, Santorum won with 45 percent of the vote, with Paul coming in second at 27 percent. But, citing the passion of his supporters, the Texas Congressman said that night that "when the dust settles, I think there's a very good chance we're gonna have the maximum number of delegates coming out of Minnesota." Turns out he was right.
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Mitt Romney probably has little reason to curse considering his seemingly insurmountable delegate lead... Or does he?

Paul also somehow ended up with the most delegates in Iowa and is hoping for similar delegate coups in Colorado and Maine, with the resulting momentum hopefully propelling him to a strong showing in Texas' May 29 primary.

Paul's campaign adviser characterized the Romney campaign as in a "panic" after receiving word of the Minnesota and Iowa results. In fact, the International Business Times -- citing Warren G. Harding's 1920 campaign, in which he won that year's fractious Republican nominating convention (and eventually the presidency) after heading into the convention with the fewest delegates of any remaining candidate -- said the delegate coups demonstrate "a possible path to the White House" for Paul.

But before you wipe the cobwebs off your Ron Paul 2012 yard sign, keep in mind that Paul hasn't done well in the non-caucus primaries. In fact, according to the Associated Press, Paul currently is in last place in the delegate count, trailing presumptive nominee Mitt Romney and the other candidates. Paul has 67 delegates to Romney's 697, Santorum's 269 and Newt Gingrich's 137. It takes 1,144 delegates to cinch the nomination.

See also:
-- Santorum's low-turnout, symbolic Minnesota victory signals Republican dissatisfaction

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28 comments
LadyHawk
LadyHawk

Here's a little known fact: Ron Paul and Warren G. Harding each have what is known in astrology as a "Rama Chart" (i.e., 4 or more planets in their own or exalted signs). In Ron Paul's case, he has Sun in Leo, Moon in Taurus, Mercury in Virgo and Mars in Scorpio. President Harding had Moon in Taurus, Venus in Libra, Mars in Scorpio and Jupiter in Sagittarius. The hallmarks of such individual are that they are "destined" to "rise." Neither Obama nor Romney share this trait. Will Ron Paul follow in Harding's footsteps? If the stars have their way, it is likely.

Anon
Anon

I knew it. When I attended the Repub caucus my sub-group voted pretty strongly for Paul.

That said, Romney would still have taken what he did take anyways. 

Romney/Paul would be so oil and water it isn't even funny.

CRZ
CRZ

Those conventions weren't ALL held last weekend; some were earlier.

Also, nobody cares but me I'm sure, but Ron Paul actually also had six MN delegates at the 2008 convention...but T-Paw omitted them from his announcement of the MN delegation's vote (which is how Romney was announced with 35 votes instead of 41).

He was a real uniter, that T-Paw.  Can't believe his presidential bid didn't work out!

WT
WT

Race to the bottom.  The worst "leaders" and candidates end up on the ballot.

atrupar
atrupar

Jack and EK -- you guys are right. I was sloppy with language. I've gone through and replaced 'primary' with 'caucus.' Just a lack of clarity on my part -- thanks for pointing that out. 

E K
E K

Yeah, man, there was no primary.  If we had a primary this wouldn't have happened.

Jack Tomczak
Jack Tomczak

February wasn't a primary, it was a non-binding straw poll. This article didn't need to be written.

Dr. J
Dr. J

 Cool story Congresswoman Bachmann.

Jodi
Jodi

 Shut the fuck up.

Naamanspencer
Naamanspencer

 WTF sub-group?  That's DFL speak for sub-caucus, a concept that does not exist in the GOP

Mn Voter
Mn Voter

Prepare for Secretary of Treasury: Ron Paul in the Romney administration. His mandate will be to end the FED! Get us back to a solid dollar policy and off the fiat.

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

You're technically correct, but forgive me if I'm getting a sense that you'd just as soon no one ever learned that Ron Paul won the MN GOP delegate race.

Ron Paul is a racist and a jerk, but sadly he's still right on more issues than Romney and Obama put together. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were phonier than Bush's tax cuts.

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

Good. Let's reduce incarceration rates and finally let people be people.

h.s
h.s

Yeah, because liberals are the LAST people who want weed legalized. 

G4liberty
G4liberty

Even if he is "racist" his political career proves that he would not enforce racist behavior in the White House. But it's good that the racist newsletter accusation has been debunked so time to move on.

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

More "RP is racist" stuff...? Because everybody knows Democrat esp is a more accurate measure than physical voting records, right?

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

Actually, Obama has been objectively worse than Bush was when it comes to giving the DEA a free hand (boot?) to arrest medical marijuana providers and users.

Obama is what we called a liberal Republican in the '60s. The only reason he's a Democrat is because the Republican party was taken over by the southern Democrats, and decent conservatives fled to the Democratic party which has grown more conservative even as the Republicans have grown more radical and warlike.

Kirk the Conservative Jerk
Kirk the Conservative Jerk

Liberals unlike Libertarians, have nothing to do with personal liberty.  Liberals are statists.  (government is God, and the bigger the better) Obama increased the raids on dispensaries like two fold.  What happened there?

Furthermore, are you saying liberals run the Democrat party?

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

The easiest way to "deal" with the "niggers" you cite is to integrate them into society instead of further dehumanizing them.So libertarians are responsible for racial/gender gaps?Why is it a cop out to let states decide rules that apply to them?

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

I asked for your solution and you say "states rights"? That's code for "let us deal with our n*ggers our way, you deal with them your way."

I'm very disappointed in your response, and won't be reevaluating Ron Paul any time soon. The playing field isn't level for any of the 99%, but Ron Paul's party is doing its best to keep it more unlevel for women and minorities. Quotas may be a lousy solution, but states rights isn't a solution at all, just a cover up.

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

Nobody, no system can undue hundreds of years of exploitation of a people. Handouts/reperations are dehumanizing. Take the quota system: it systematically dumbs down the minority, lowering standards for some while making the majority further excel to get those scarce jobs. So a system of "equality" that actually creates inequality by increasing the racial gap is cool with you? Modern day jim crow is all that is.

My idea: let the states decide instead of having a "one size fits all" strategy.

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

And now you're touching on a fundamental matter of fairness. Undoing 100 years of Jim Crow couldn't be done voluntarily. Southern Democrats (now doing business as the Republican party) illegally oppressed freed slaves and their descendents to a degree not seen since Biblical times. (I took advanced classes in slavery systems in the Americas and there's a very good reason why the South called it their "peculiar institution." American slavery was historically unique in its unilateral exploitation of slaves.)

Before you criticize quotas, please explain how you would undo 400 years of racism and slavery. If you have no plan, you're as much as saying you're OK with a racist system that systematically shut out minorities.

I'm not going to waste my time defending quotas, but before you attack them, explain how you/Ron Paul would do a better job of fixing institutionalized racism and sexism. You don't get to say no unless you have a plan, and a plan you're willing to share -- not more of this W./Romney "I'll tell you after the election" crap.

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

Check out his congressional speech from 7-3-04. What if the government told you 50% of your workforce HAD to be hipsters? WTF?

There is such racial inequality because of social welfare prorams, the education system, and the prison system. RP wants to shrink/revamp all of them. He gets high marks from the Austin NAACP Chapter. In the late seventies a black man brought his very preggo wife to the hospital RP worked at. Other hospitals in town wouldn't deliver baby because he was black and broke. He personally paid for delivery and took care of the man's wife himself. It's funny no people of color in his district call him racist, only trendy talking heads on the coasts.

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

Dude, I've dug into Ron Paul since the '90s. Again, I agree with much of what he says, but he's a classic closet racist. He never fully denies being racist. When confronted, he always denies the specifics, but not the substance.

Please share with us any quote you have from Ron Paul that makes it clear he completely supports racial equality. I've been looking for that quote for a long time, and it's not out there. If you go to his Wikipedia page, there isn't a single word about race. He has gone on the record as saying he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and that is a very heavy thing to say. Also, his statements about illegal immigration have a very racist quality to them. It's impossible to read them and think, even for a second, that he's including frostbacks or illegal Irish immigrants.

effeminate dad
effeminate dad

If you can see that his policies are better than front runners in both parties, then I'd also think you'd be able to see why calling him racist is more than a little short sighted. Do some digging, you'll see why.

Mark Gisleson
Mark Gisleson

No, because Ron put out a newsletter in the '90s which featured a lot of racist content. He's denied knowing about that content, but nothing about his denials passes the smell test.

What part of "[Ron Paul]'s right on more issues than Romney and Obama put together" didn't you like?

Jeez, lighten up. The idea behind elections is to recruit supporters, not tell them to piss off for failing to agree with EVERY one of your talking points.

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