Gary Schiff accused of making classist liquor store-brewpub distinction

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Meg Tuthill may not be interested in changing ordinances for specific businesses, but Gary Schiff is open to the idea.

Schiff, responding to the controversy Tuthill created with a voicemail she left for a prospective business owner who is being deterred from opening a brewpub at the corner of 25th Street and Hennepin Avenue South because the property he wants to use for the business is too close to Jefferson Elementary, told the Southwest Journal he thinks an ordinance change is "worth looking at." But the allegedly classist words he used to explain his view are drawing criticism.

"I think there's a big difference between a liquor store that attracts panhandlers being located near a school and a microbrewery that is only open after school hours and attracts a clientele that is willing to pay [a] premium price for a locally crafted beer," Schiff said. City ordinance currently bars all businesses that sell off-sale booze, including brewpubs, from operating on a lot that comes within 300 feet of a school's property line.

But some folks took to Schiff's Facebook page to take umbrage with the "clientele that is willing to pay a premium price" remark. Here's one example:

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Schiff saw fit to respond:

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But his response still left some feeling that an element of classism is at work in Schiff's liquor store-brewpub distinction:

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Alleged classism aside, making a distinction in the ordinance between brewpubs that only sell growlers and full-fledged liquor stores would allow the proposed Pryes Brewing Company to open at 25th and Hennepin while continuing to prohibit full-fledged liquor stores from opening near schools.

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@JayJustSaid Ha. Anyone who cannot see the distinction between a liquor store and a brewery selling growlers is lacking in critical thinking


I see what he's saying, unfortunately he makes his point about as well as Joe Biden would.  If the "open" hours don't overlap, why couldn't a brew pub (or for that matter a liquor store) be within "X" feet of a school?  Personally I don't think a liquor store could make it being open 5-10pm weekdays +weekends, but a brew pub open 5p-1a or something would do just fine there.

Charles D. Rhoden III
Charles D. Rhoden III

Gary makes a good point though it probably will not fly because brewery or liquor store, what is not changing is the narrow minded viewpoint that all alcohol is the same. The average consumer of MadDog 20/20 is NOT the same as the average consumer of Surly Darkness.

Chris Holm
Chris Holm

Overenthusiastic political correctness with complete lack of common sense run amok.


Mueller and Oleary are conflating race with class, which is understandable because that is a deliberate tactic used by the powerful to keep the working class divided across racial lines.  Speaking of "panhandlers" or even "the poor" is not racist unless the listener personally projects their racism onto these economic terms.

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