Keith Ellison takes shot at T-Paw, is kinda-sorta happy Paul Ryan got VP nod

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Ellison likes politicians who aren't afraid to shoot straight about what they believe.
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We're pretty sure President Obama doesn't have to worry about who Rep. Keith Ellison will cast his ballot for this November, but that doesn't mean the first Muslim elected to Congress doesn't have opinions about GOP politics.

Over the weekend, Ellison, in all seriousness, said he "actually prefer[s]" Mitt Romney's ultimate VP choice, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, to another leading contender, former Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

According to MPR, Ellison offered up the following analysis of Mittens' choice:
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His presidential campaign foundered, and he won't be VP... so what is T-Paw hoping for now?
Paul Ryan is much more upfront about what he believes in. I actually prefer Ryan. I think it allows us to make a clear argument. Pawlenty, he would've tried to emphasize his congeniality and his personality, even though he would've been about the same things.
Using that same don-t-pull-punches-about-what-you-really-believe logic, we imagine Ellison probably would go a step further and say he'd prefer to see Ryan on top of the GOP ticket. After all, isn't Mitt the Picasso of political chameleonism?

Meanwhile, the cryptic "coming soon" message still emblazoned on top of T-Paw's website has shifted from auspicious to straight-up sad... almost as sad as the gamblers who wagered on a Mitt-Pawlenty ticket on Intrade must be in the wake of the Ryan announcement.

And next time you're tempted to make political projections based on Intrade, remember this -- as of July 17, Ryan wasn't even a blip on the VP-race radar. At that time, Pawlenty, with a 27 percent chance of making the ticket, was the top contender, followed by Rep. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) a distant third. In hindsight, Intraders would've been better off saving their dough for some online poker.


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swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Paul Ryan's budget philosophy was already tried in England, by the Conservative Prime Minister George Osborne, in 2010.  It was an immediate catastrophe.  Within months they took back almost all of its provisions.  Consumer and business spending stopped overnight.  The economy plunged like a stone.  Due to public revenue income dropping (because when nobody spends or hires and taxes are slashed, there's no sales or employment tax coming in), public debt skyrocketed.  If you like a complete nuclear winter in economic terms, by all means go for the Ryan/Osborne/Ayn Rand budget approach.  But if you don't have a massive short-option on the US economy (as Romney-Ryan's backers in fact do), you'll be impoverished along with everyone else not in the top Elites.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

Paul Ryan was a blip on Intrade because only a crazy person would choose him as his running mate.  This is very similar to the Palin pick.  It's a desperate pick of a reckless canidate who has no chance at beating the best President since FDR.   It's crazy because it undermines so much of Mitt's campaign.  Ryan's budget becomes the big issue of the campaign, not the economy.  Ryan's budget makes Republicans talk about Social Security and Medicare where nobody trusts them.  Ryan's budget is so tilted for the rich it lets Democrats talk constantly about what a rich asshole Mitt is.  Ryan's budget is so full of holes it lets Obama be on the attack constantly.  Ryan's budget says we can cut taxes, increase defense spending, and reduce the debt.  Who is stupid enough to believe that?  I guess the racist idiots that make up the Republican base but nobody else. Obama's campaign will be I'm the smooth awesome guy that killed Bin Laden, these jokers want to steal your Medicare to give rich people tax breaks.  Who wouldn't vote for Obama? 

kenny1
kenny1

 @swmnguy Do you even read the news before spouting your mouth off?  Romney has already stated that will he not NOT use Ryan's budget plan.  And you think 4 more years of record unemployment, record debt, increased spending, and making long speeches is going to magically turn this country around?  Well, if you believe that, then I have some oceanfront property to sell you in North Dakota.

kenny1
kenny1

 @MicheleBachmann And who is stupid enough to believe that creating more non-essential government jobs, printing money and continuing pouring money into government and social programs that result in absolutely nothing is going to reduce the deficit?

 

And second of all, you must be really stupid.  Ryan is not running for President, dumbass.  Romney has his own budget plan and while similar to Ryan's, it not as radical.  And one more thing: at least Romney and Ryan HAVE a budget plan, unlike your Messiah Obama.  And finally, bin Laden's killing will do NOTHING for Obama's campaign.  Everyone forgot about the next day. 

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

 @kenny1 Oh, and regarding the oceanfront property in North Dakota?  I'd hang onto that if I were you.  If we continue to burn up all the carbon fuels, and the permafrost melts, you may have Hudson Bay shorefront there soon enough, and warm, too.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

 @kenny1 Thanks for your reply.  I had actually read (yesterday in fact) that Romney already said he wasn't going to use Ryan's budget plan.  Utter absurdity.  Either Romney is lying to save a snowball's chance in Florida, or there was no reason to choose Ryan in the first place, other than all the other possible choices are such extremists as to be political Kryptonite.

 

There's no candidate who is going to "magically turn this country around" because it cannot be done.  The economic crisis we face is due to intrinsic contradictions in our system of corporate finance capitalism, where debt is in fact money.  In short, it requires unlimited growth in money, resources, and markets.  Ours is a finite world.  We've reached the saturation point of debt; the point at which not even the carrying costs can be maintained.  We use ZIRP and endless refinances to ignore the facts for a while, but not indefinitely. 

 

The Ryan budget and the entire right-wing approach to that approaching, inevitable calamity, is to enter the biggest Put option, short play, in history; to bring on the disaster and profit enormously from it.  That's what they did heading into the collapse after 1929, and that's what they're setting up to do now.

 

The Obama position is to pretend that a fundamentally vicious system can be made "nicer" if we treat it nicely, and as a backup hope that if we hide our heads in the sand, the monsters won't see us.  Less cynical perhaps, but no less likely to succeed.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

 @kenny1 Anybody who thinks the federal budget deficit can be solved without solving the private debt crisis is innumerate.  Meaning, is illiterate about math.  You can cut spending to Zero (especially if you aren't going to cut military spending), and if you cut the taxes on capital gains and the wealthiest the Romney and Ryan say they intend to, there is no way to balance the budget.  None.  Not using math.  So, leave aside the fact that the timid, center-right corporatist Obama does indeed have a budget plan; the ones Romney and Ryan have proposed are illogical on their face and would explode like Osborne's UK fiasco.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

 @kenny1 City Pages, why isn't kenny banned?   All he contributes is racial slurs and lies.   Also, over the weekend he specificallly threatened one of your posters. 

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

 @CinBlueland US politics exist in its own non-logical, non-linguistic world.  Are you suggesting that Wall Street, which supported Obama over McCain and Hilary Clinton by a wide margin in 2008, was supporting some kind of wild Socialist agenda?  Or somehow they didn't know their options?  Be a little bit serious.  If meds are involved, so be it.   If you look at Obama's policy proposals and ignore the day-to-day churn of media and partisan political advantage, it is obvious and clear that Obama is not only center-right, but cautious.  Watch the policy, not the politics.  You should know this by now.  And Ellison and the rest of the somewhat-left-of-center voted down Obama's budget because it was so far to the right.  It was in all the papers.  You can look it up.

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

 @swmnguy Get back on your meds! Obama is center, right? Obama's budget was firmly rejected by not only the entire House, but by the Senate as well. Full majorities, IE Not even Ellison voted for his budget.   That's not a plan.

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

 @MicheleBachmann What in those two comments is a lie or racist? I've seen far worse out of you in other threads.

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