Majority of MN college students favor voter ID amendment that could disenfranchise 70 percent of them

Categories: Voter ID
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Either students don't mind making their lives more difficult, or they don't know what they're likely to vote for.
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Confused about the headline? That's fitting. Because it appears a good portion of Minnesota college students are confused about the proposed voter ID amendment.

According to new polling commissioned by the Minnesota Public Interest Research Group (MPIRG), 53.7 of college students are likely to vote yes on voter ID. But 70.9 percent of students don't have any form of state-issued identification with their current address (assuming college IDs from state schools don't count), meaning they probably wouldn't be able to vote if an ID requirement were already enshrined in state law.

Minnesota's voter ID amendment doesn't specify whether college IDs are an acceptable form of identification -- the ballot question simply states that voters must have "valid identification." If the amendment is approved, the question of what constitutes a valid, government-issued ID -- whether college IDs from state universities count, or tribal IDs -- would be decided by the legislature during the 2013 session.

But according to MPIRG, "legislation drafted by the amendment's authors suggest that its passage would require [the students without state-issued IDs] to obtain new identification in order to vote in the districts where they live."

'Students without IDs will surely get them before they're needed for voting,' you say. Not according to the polling. Only 36.8% of potentially impacted students said they would obtain the proper identification before election day (granted, they won't need it to cast ballots this time around), while 18.7 percent said they just wouldn't vote at all.

But the polling isn't all bad news for those of you opposed to voter ID.

"We knew we had an uphill battle on voter ID given the seemingly innocuous nature of the question," MPIRG Executive Director Josh Winters said in a press release. "[But] we found that when those polled were then informed of how difficult voter ID would make voting for students, seniors, and military members, over 70 percent believed that was a compelling reason to oppose it."

If only young voters could be counted on to inform themselves before November 6 rolls around...

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35 comments
cbbehnke2012
cbbehnke2012

I have no problem with a voter id law, with four very important caveats:

1)You don't do it in an election year, months before an election, when it is obviously partisan.

2)You have to approach in a non-partisan or bi-partisan manner

3)You have to ensure that everyone who is eligible to vote has ready access to ids, that they are provided at a low cost or without cost, and that they are easily replaced should an id be lost or damaged.

4)You don't organize vigilante groups to "monitor" voting sites for people who they think might not be eligible to vote

shawnhorton
shawnhorton

@esch college students are clueless these days. Sadly, if they disenfranchise themselves, it’s Darwinism but the negative externality isn’t.

TeaPartyViews
TeaPartyViews

@esch How would you stop 100,000s of #TeaParty members from registering and voting each in several districts if they don't need IDs?

Dan Johnson
Dan Johnson

all politics aside, its more of a matter of principal to me. We have to show our id for everything else, why not voting?

Andy Nordenstrom
Andy Nordenstrom

It's a matter of money not being lazy. Voter Id amendment is purely a pathetic attempt by republicans to narrow the opposing field cause, I mean why would you vote republican if you're poor,they could care less about the poor they've proven that. And the worst part is they say it's for voter fraud which is pretty much nonexistent but nobody bothers to learn that part.

Dan Johnson
Dan Johnson

Oh just go out and get an id ya lazy bastards.... I have to show one when I get a beer you can show it every four god damn years!

Patrick Raum
Patrick Raum

This number seems highly unlikely - it may keep them from voting locally, but absentee ballots are options. If you want it bad enough, you will be able to vote. Next you will be saying they should just come to our homes to pick up our votes.

Shannon McNeill Greenwood
Shannon McNeill Greenwood

You shouldn't have to change your drivers license address to your school address when it isn't your permanant address people! You only change it when you are moving there permanently!

katieum
katieum

@lovelyleann oh good grief

westroad18
westroad18

Nothing is different. They show up with a utility bill like they have for as long ago as I was a freshman in 2002. Your picture on your ID matches your face matches your name on your bill. Nothing has changed. Your ID proves your state citizenship. Nearly any bill in your name to your current address allows you to register and vote at your precinct.

 

Please get your facts straight and support the voter ID amendment.

 

Also, each midwestern state with Voter ID laws (South Dakota, Michigan and Wisconsin) allow Student ID's.... Stop mis-informing people.

Jean Claude Cau
Jean Claude Cau

How can these poor college students board Spring Break flights to Mazatlan without proper ID?

Chris Welton
Chris Welton

Many college students don't change their address for insurance reasons. They could obtain absentee ballots..

Daniel Gavin
Daniel Gavin

imagine how incredibly difficult their lives would be if they were required to show ID to beer or cigs! oh the humanity!!!

Hoffman Humphrey
Hoffman Humphrey

It would also be a great topic to include in HS civics classes.

Paul Gerold
Paul Gerold

Perhaps a State funded wake up/reminder call to these students to be sure they get out and vote would be in order? ACORN, oh ACORN... where for art thou ACORN?

Tracy Madden
Tracy Madden

Looks like the Democrats have some educating to do on college campuses.

Aaron Eilers
Aaron Eilers

Most students will have an ID, just not one that includes their current address.

Bernard Williams
Bernard Williams

Maybe they see the importance of having an ID, such as to vote, enter a federal building/state capital, apply for credit/loans, etc!

Tom Desautel
Tom Desautel

Hopefully they gain some intelligence in college.

Eric Larsson
Eric Larsson

Every time I've moved to a new state, I've had to figure out how to vote, and what I needed. Occasionally the challenge has been enough to dissuade me from bothering. If there's a deadline for my ID, or if my old license won't qualify as proof, then I get disenfranchised.

webcelt
webcelt

Most states with photo ID requirements don't accept student IDs, but I bet the people campaigning to restrict voter rights don't tell students that. I bet they likewise don't tell senior citizens that the last drivers license you had when you stopped driving won't be accepted once it's expired, or that people voting absentee because their physical conditions make them housebound will somehow have to get out to get an ID and somehow show it. Nor are they telling women who changed their names when they married that the birth certificates won't be acceptable anymore.

 

Mark Ritchie offered the Republicans electronic poll books, which would have the voters' photos, regardless of whether they carry some form of photo ID, and thereby both provide a photo and avoid disenfranchising legitimate voters, but they wouldn't even look at it. The fact about this amendment is the restriction of voting rights is a feature, not a bug, so no wonder they don't want to find ways to protect voting rights.

mrselfdestruct22
mrselfdestruct22

Really? 70% of students don't have a drivers license or state ID? I really doubt that.

GeekAaron
GeekAaron

 @westroad18 One problem is that until specific legislation is written regarding what constitutes acceptable photo ID, we do not know if student IDs will be allowed.

atrupar
atrupar moderator

 @mrselfdestruct22 Not with their *current* address, i.e., wherever they are going to school and not where they grew up.

guest
guest

 @atrupar  @mrselfdestruct22 Unless they register to vote in their local college community, they'll still be registered at home. Thus, there is no problem.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@MicheleBachmann @mingtran: intelligent response from an intelligent individual

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

 @mingtran The party of Sarah Palin and George W. Bush doesn't get to call anyone stupid.    Voter ID is a idea designed to make less people vote.  You stupid assholes are messing with democracy.   When people feel elections are fixed that's how you end up with blood in the streets.  You stupid Republican assholes are playing with fire on this.   Furthermore it proves what a bunch of racists Republicans have become since there is no problem and study after study proves this will adversely effect minorities and the poor.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@ANON @guest @atrupar @mrselfdestruct22 : then they register their new address or get an absentee ballot. This whole thing is a non-issue. If concerned libtards were actually concerned about other's well being, their focus would be elsewhere.

ANON
ANON

 @guest  @atrupar  @mrselfdestruct22 But what if they live in South Dakota and go to school in Minnesota? Less people will want to drive back out to South Dakota which could mean less people voting overall.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@voteNO @guest who said anything about forcing them to vote in their hometown? They can register with their new address... And libtards call conservitards fanatics

voteNO
voteNO

 @guest    If you force students to travel to their hometowns to vote that would be a form of a poll tax so yes, there certainly are problems.  That's just one of a long list of problems that will result if this is passed.   

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