Rep. Mary Franson on homosexuality: 'I personally do not believe it is normal behavior' [VIDEO]

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Franson: "Children in our schools could be taught some liberal agendas because of the marriage amendment."
During a debate with her DFL challenger last Thursday, Rep. Mary Franson, R-Alexandria, tried to explain her opposition to gay marriage.

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I say "tried to" because her explanation was a stammering mess. Nonetheless, the thread of an anti-gay marriage argument emerged, and it goes something like this: Gayness isn't normal, therefore gay marriage should remain illegal.

Franson also expressed concern that if the marriage amendment is defeated, Minnesota's public schools might follow Massachusetts' alleged practice of indoctrinating students to (gasp!) accept homosexuality as something normal.

On the other hand, in an answer perhaps reflecting the conservatism of the Alexandria House district, Franson's DFL challenger -- retired public school teacher Bob Cunniff -- avoided taking a stance on the marriage amendment. He instead urged voters to "pray to God to make the right decision for themselves" and said he's content "let the chips fall as they may" on November 6. What leadership!

Here's a transcription of the Franson-Cunniff marriage amendment exchange, followed by the raw footage (the marriage discussion begins at 14:00):
Franson: Marriage has been around since the beginning of time, since Adam and Eve. You know, under current state law it is illegal for a man and a man or a female and a female to get married. It is currently under statue [sic], marriage is between one man and one woman. The constitutional amendment doesn't change anything that is in state law. All it does is give the voters a chance to decide how they want to define marriage. How do they see marriage? Two years ago, I stood on this stage and I said before the viewers that I support traditional marriage as defined between one man and one woman.

You know, I just think there are also consequences if this bill is passed-- I'm sorry, there could be some consequences if the bill does not pass, the amendment does not pass-- if it were to fail there could be some consequences. My concerns are that our children in our schools could be taught some liberal agendas because of the marriage amendment. Because in the schools they may be taught... ah... that, this is normal behavior. I personally do not believe it is. But I also believe in the choice and I firmly support marriage between one man and one woman.

Cunniff: I'm gonna leave it to the voters. Whoever goes into the booth, they need to pray to God to make the right decision for themselves. [I'm content letting] the chips fall as they may...

When I was a kid "gay" meant happy. I don't think the schools go around -- at least, I can only speak in the elementary level -- schools don't go around and talk about those kinds of things and try to influence people in their way of thinking in that respect.

Franson: I do think it's sad [that my opponent is] not willing to come out and say to the voters -- to his possible constituents -- where he actually does stand on a very important issue in our district. Massachusetts, as a matter of fact, right after the 2003 court ruling [legalizing gay marriage] there was a school-wide assembly celebrating same-sex marriage. Then, and a few months later, the middle school was celebrating same-sex marriage. And a year after that bill passed, schools went as far as elementary children having celebrations of the same-sex marriage, of gay pride. School books in Massachusetts, also in the libraries had this issue as normalizing it for our young children. And that's something that I wish to protect our children from. I believe if there is talk about it, it should come from parents and not the education system.

Cunniff: [Another issue is] how far do you want to go with government, too?


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Awwsten
Awwsten

I would advise you all to go to her page https://www.facebook.com/#!/fransonforstatehouse and ask her for a non faith based as to why she opposes marriage. She deleted my question along with a few others when questioned about it. I am sick of the constitution constantly being violated by "politicians" who really are nothing more than religious advocates, thus she does not separate church and state.

Swee2th
Swee2th

Adam and Eve. What a joke. I can't believe people buy into this shit.

rextrek1
rextrek1

This women shall be reminded that in America ..NOW, right this very minute.....there ARE 10's of 1000's of MARRIED gays and Lesbians...MANY WITH children, thier own Families...tehya re marrying today, tomorrow - this weekend, this month..and there sis NOthing she can do about it....this shrew needs to be reminded about a Corp. A.Wilfahrt from  MN..who was gay and DIED in Afganistan for Her Rights....I feel bad for his parents who Have Fought for / and ARE Fighting for Equality for All have to hear her Hateful Propaganda.....all under the "guise" of religion! may she go down in history with George Wallace!

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Mary Franson has already established herself for what she is.  She's dumb.  She's mean.  She thinks anything she says is justified by the mere fact that she said it.  My kids were more developed as human beings before they were toilet-trained than Mary Franson is as an elected official.

 

Nobody asked her if she thinks homosexuality is "normal."  That's completely irrelevant to the issue in the first place.  Besides the fact that it happens all the time, I mean.  The point is, can we, and should we, establish a group of people for the purpose of denying them a right allowed to others?  Since the passage of the 14th Amendment, that's unconstitutional in the USA.  Another point is, you are not allowed to impose your religious beliefs on others.  That's the Establishment Clause, and it's been part of the law of the land since the very beginning.  For Franson to  talk about Adam and Eve proves that her motivation is religious in nature, and therefore unconstitutional on the face of it.

 

This doesn't have to have anything to do with how you think about homosexuality.  That's not the issue.  Nobody asked you, or me, or anybody else about that.  The question is, is it decent, humane, or constitutional to discriminate against them in our laws, and the answer to that is NO, on every level.  Which is why these people are so testy, defensive, shrill and evasive; and why they're trying to jam it into our Constitution, where it will be harder to eliminate in a few years when public revulsion at such bigotry demands it be removed.

OutJake
OutJake

@NorthernMNer People like that don't have the courage to say it to your face

mnblrmkr
mnblrmkr

@NorthernMNer From what I've seen of her, probably yes.

Kieron
Kieron

Around since Adam and Eve?  Really?  And who officiated at the wedding--the talking snake?  Or maybe Lilith presided over the nuptials?  My God, she's rivaling Michele Bachmann for insane crazy-eyed statements!

Pinko Thinker
Pinko Thinker

whew! well, damn good thing your personal opinion has no redeeming social value, innit?

Melanie Boushley Cornejo
Melanie Boushley Cornejo

this is not the first time this women has made statements that are contrary to humanity, civility and practicing acceptance in the free society that she is supposed to represent. Wasn't she the one who said individuals receiving financial support from the government are like animals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWu7lK7Hss

JayJustSaid
JayJustSaid

@MplsCougar First thing I did was lol at that picture. New SNL cast member?

Sara Rice
Sara Rice

Because God-forbid we teach tolerance and acceptance. Sheesh...

Mare Anderson
Mare Anderson

I personally do not believe Mary Franson has normal behavior.

Rebecca Allen
Rebecca Allen

mairrage lisences are issued by the state. the church ceremony is not legally binding. churches don't have to perform same sex mairrages if they don't want to but the state should not discriminate against two loving people because of a religiously biased law. seperation of church and state.

Jonathon Richter
Jonathon Richter

And yes, I realize it's Cunniff that said it, but seriously, I don't understand at all why government gets involved in religious practices.

Joseph Bartel
Joseph Bartel

I personally do not believe being an ignorant bigoted cunt is normal behavior.

Angela Salzl
Angela Salzl

I disagree. However, she is entitled to her opinion no matter how little sense it makes to us. I hope she comes up with better reasoning and a better way to verbalize it before she calls being gay "Not Normal Behavior" WTF serious nonsense!

Jonathon Richter
Jonathon Richter

'Pray to God to make the right decision.' Separation of Church and State, anyone?

Erica
Erica

If homosexuality isn't normal, then why is it found in numerous animal species Franson?

NorthernMNer
NorthernMNer

@OutJake Exactly -- like I said to David, people like her want confrontation, but only on their terms.

NorthernMNer
NorthernMNer

@mnblrmkr Oh good; I'd have some choice words for her, too.

OutJake
OutJake

@NorthernMNer It's why we gotta keep calling them out :)

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