Ex-Viking Matt Birk: "Not all NFL players think redefining marriage is a good thing" [VIDEO]

Categories: GLBT
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Birk, a Republican, has come out in opposition to same-sex marriage.
The NFL is quickly becoming an important forum in the gay marriage debate.

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On one side of the issue, of course, are Vikings punter Chris Kluwe and Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo, both of whom are outspoken gay marriage supporters. And now emerging on the other side is Ravens center Matt Birk, an ex-Viking, St. Paul native, and Catholic.

In a Star Tribune op-ed published yesterday and video published Saturday by the Minnesota Catholic Conference, Birk explains why he thinks Minnesotans should vote yes on the marriage amendment.

From Birk's "Let's protect marriage -- and speech" op-ed:
The union of a man and a woman is privileged and recognized by society as "marriage" for a reason, and it's not because the government has a vested interest in celebrating the love between two people. With good reason, government recognizes marriages and gives them certain legal benefits so they can provide a stable, nurturing environment for the next generation of citizens: our kids...

Same-sex unions may not affect my marriage specifically, but it will affect my children -- the next generation. Ideas have consequences, and laws shape culture. Marriage redefinition will affect the broader well-being of children and the welfare of society. As a Christian and a citizen, I am compelled to care about both...

A defense of marriage is not meant as an offense to any person or group. All people should be afforded their inalienable American freedoms. There is no opposition between providing basic human rights to everyone and preserving marriage as the sacred union of one man and one woman.
And here's Birk's video:



A response from Kluwe is on its way, but Minnesotans United for All Families has already published a detailed response to the arguments Birk puts forth in the op-ed and video. To read it in full, click to page two.


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nathangram
nathangram

Hey Matt you'll be hated here in Minnesota as well you piece of shit.Come and try !I dare you!!Your kind is well hated here. You fucking loser. Proof that Harvard doesn't make you smarter!!!Don't worry i hate you just as much as you hate all the good people of Minnesota. YOUR NOT WANTED IN MINNESOTA YOU PIECE Of!!!!!! SHIT

Pam Leneir
Pam Leneir

Shit its his damn OPINION, just like Nicki Manaj said she's voting for Romney. Who the F cares! I'm so sick about hearing bout this marriage shit, can't wait til Nov 6TH

keny1
keny1

Are you idiots on meth?

 

Do you honestly think what Matt Birk or Chris Kluwe says is going to sway the vote on this topic? People have already made up their minds on this issue.  Personally, I plan on voting No, but I am going to be damned if I am going to shove my opinion down other people's throat.  As if it is not idiotic enough when Hollywood celebrities give us their opinion on politics, do we really give a flying fuck what 2 no-name NFL players think about the gay marriage debate?  Think for your fucking selves, and to hell what other people think (NFL player or not).  

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

See now that is a well thought out and articulate response. I agree with is a personal and emotional issue for some but to pretend you know what will effect Mr Birk or not, make excuses by suggesting its hard to avoid when the statements made are against whoever just for being who they are and lately actually condoning civility getting forgotten when its you being attacked is at best a logical fallacy and at worst cognitive dissonance. All the while pointing fingers is laughable if it wasnt so hypocritical and intellectually dishonest. Its the perception of anyone who listens or reads someone's opinion whether they feel personally attacked. Unless they are being singled out and called names and attacked personally like Mr. Birk is, should really set an example to further their position and simply disagree. It wouldnt even really be that obvious and obnoxious if Chris Kluwe was so applauded for a immature rant. If we're going to have a level of civil discourse, its always on the burden of the one making the case to do so. Lastly its not just pointing out how Mr. Birk may (or may not) be wrong according to someone but then people not only need to tell him how he is wrong on some sort of authoritative elitist soapbox but then while doing so, attack the man and call him names all because its hard to avoid when general statements are being taken personally but when the same "cathartic" name calling is made back then they are hate mongering. Absurd, simple is that. Im making no excuses for either side. Keep in mind Ive already committed in saying NO but thats not even the point anymore. Whether its this issue , voter ID amendment, economy or whatver, Its the disgusting finger pointing and blatant disregard for any civility because "Im right and you're wrong".

stronnes
stronnes

Wow.  Matt doesnt agree that same sex marriage should be legal so he is called a hater?  That is ridiculous.  

 

Brianna Lynn
Brianna Lynn

And as someone mentioned previously, whether this amendment passes or not will have absolutely NO effect on Mr. Birk...but it will have a huge effect on the people he so easily dismisses with his statement. And when you are a member of the LGBT community, or you have loved ones who are members, or you simply believe in civil rights for all, this amendment is just plain WRONG. After years of being bullied and harassed, I can definitely see how it would be hard to see past all of that pent up anger and hate. The fact that this is even up for debate makes me FURIOUS. While I might not use name calling to make my anger clear, I certainly understand why some might find name-calling to be cathartic and hard to avoid when the statements made are against you and your loved ones just for being what/who you are. This is PERSONAL, therefore, people take it personally. Sometimes civility gets forgotten when you are being attacked.

Brianna Lynn
Brianna Lynn

David - As I posted above, the term bigot has a very set definition, and showing any type of discrimination towards a group of people just because they belong to that group, makes you a bigot. I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't mean their opinion is any less bigoted. If someone says they hate black people, that's their opinion, but it's also a bigoted opinion. I don't disagree that name calling isn't the best, most intelligent way to get your point across (although I still maintain calling someone a bigot isn't necessarily name calling). But this is also a VERY emotional subject for many people, emotional and personal. He's a public figure, and in making a statement as he did, he opened himself up to this type of scrutiny. You can't tell me Kluwe didn't get the same name calling from the other side.

Buttermaker
Buttermaker

I think everyone can officially start their office pools for when Birk runs for a MN political office.

scoops
scoops

Wait.. how does this effect his children? He never really answers that question. The only way this is going to effect his kids is that they are going to be embarrassed when they are adults that their father was an advocate for hate. Its sad.. 

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

William is also intellectually dishonest and bias. "Advocating freedom from bourgeois morality, and social authority." is "cogent arguments" huh? I guess wanting Constitutional enforcement and the rule of law, minimal redistribution, end of subsidies, the only equality is liberty, real checks and balances, non-aggression principles / non-interventionism foreign policy and last but not least a fair "across the board" flat tax is "whatever benefits me most". LOL. Awwsten, you're right, see I can find common ground. I do agree his opinion on the matter is wrong. But Im not discrediting myself by calling the man names or assuming I know him enough to attack him. He can come out and have an opinion just like kluwe can, I may not agree with it and Ill state why and leave it at that. It certainly does matter how they articulate their point. it lends credibility in my opinion. See I can agree to disagree in a civil manner. I would give you the proper amount of credibility but making such bias and ignorant statements like " another blind, hate mongering, Catholic" tells me I cannot... Unless you personally know the man. Nonetheless I will give you the respect many people are not giving Mr. Birk and agree to disagree.

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

Cody your bias is showing, what does where he went to HS have to do with anything?! If you dont think his opinion on god matters much so be it. People really need to pull their head out of their ass. "I dont agree and this is why.." Nope, gota insult the man because Im intellectual and can have a mature dialog.

Aus Tin Padilla
Aus Tin Padilla

Plus, it does not matter how someone articulates their point. What matters is the message, and if the message is gay marriage doesn't belong in this country it does not matter how you phrase it. He is against people who are different then him, gays getting married does not affect his personal life. People are already gay whether they get married or not, they will still kiss in public, adopt kids, hold hands, and have sex whether it is illegal or not so just let them get married and be as miserable as all of us heteros.

Aus Tin Padilla
Aus Tin Padilla

If you were truly a libetarian you would see how Birk's opinion on the matter is wrong

William Davis
William Davis

Every time someone says "As a Libertarian I..." I want to shoot myself in the face. "Libertarians" don't have cogent arguments. It just means "whatever benefits me most"

Cody Zoot
Cody Zoot

This goofball went to CDH which is one of the richest and most catholic high schools in the upper midwest. So I don't think his opinion on god being in public schools matters much.

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

As a Libertarian I think by law we are all in a civil union and marriage should be nothing but a personal "ceremony" of your choosing whether its spiritual or otherwise. Someone else posted this and I couldnt of said it better.. "At least Birk can make his point like an adult. Kluwe spewing his profane, sophomoric (yet entertaining) blather does not advance the discussion or get anyone to really consider what he says (I actually agree with Kluwe's points). Birk makes his case thoughtfully and professionally, and the trolls on here rip him. Nice."

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

Judge much Shaun? Who says it is? Im actually against it as well but who are you to judge? According to you its discriminatory and wrong. Bigoted? Do you know the man?! Funny how anyone who has an opinion gets called names and attacked. How about if people dont agree with Obama, are they racist too?! I suppose its bigoted if I said I supported the voter ID amendment too because by definition its intolerant of any differing opinion. In that case most of you people are bigots. This name calling really shows the credibility and integrity of some. How many of you actually read what Birk wrote? But its ok for Kluwe to be vulgar right? Take some time to learn something and look up the term Cognitive Dissonance.

ripzone829
ripzone829

I'd love to see him debate Chris Kluwe. Both men are well spoken and highly intelligent. 

Michael J. Fischer
Michael J. Fischer

So, being Harvard educated doesn't necessarily mean you can be taught to be non-bigoted. And, in fairness, Matt is representative of many presumably intelligent folks who have never faced their own biases and prejudices. I think they're not to be ridiculed, but thought of in sad terms.

Brianna Lynn
Brianna Lynn

It's not like those fighting for this cause have not also been verbally abused, probably far worse than Matt Birk has, and for far longer. Secondly, the definition of bigot is a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially, one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance, that is precisely what supporters of this amendment are. There is no getting around that. It's similar to the definition of homosexual, people are what they are...although people are born homosexual, where as bigotry is learned. That is why Mr. Birk will have to endure some name calling, at least he's allowed to enjoy all of his civil rights and privileges while still getting to remain a hateful bigot.

David Lutchen
David Lutchen

Why can't Matt Birk have his own opinion without being called names or attacked while Kluwe who supports it is praised?! Do any of you know the man for christ sake?!

Aus Tin Padilla
Aus Tin Padilla

Matt Birk is just another blind, hate mongering, Catholic. When I used to be forced to go to church he was always a couple pews ahead of me. God should be out of public schools, and gay marriage should be fine. Seperation of church and state

William Davis
William Davis

Hey Matt Birk... What is truly more threatening to your children, gay marriage, or teaching them that discrimination is ok?

Erica Anderson
Erica Anderson

I fail to see how gay marriage will affect that douchebag's children. Gay marriage has been legalized in several states & the earth hasn't gone to Hell in a handbasket.

Buttermaker
Buttermaker

 @stronnes It's fine if he thinks it shouldn't be legal. Every generation can make up their mind about that... but making it part of the state constitution?... Don't you think that's a bridge too far?... and as far as the name calling is concerned... let's get real. Which side in this debate gets called the more disgusting names?

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

 @scoops Yeah, what a coward to hide behind his children like that.  Just admit you hate gay people Matt.  It has nothing to do with your children.   I like football but it is a barbaric and savage sport.   How many children get hurt badly playing football trying to copy what they see in the NFL?   Certainly more than children hurt by gay marriage.   

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

 @ripzone829 Anyone that thinks government should spend their time telling people who to love and who they can marry isn't smart.   If Matt Birk was so smart why did his restaraunt go bankrupt?  Was that the gays fault too?  

ripzone829
ripzone829

 @MicheleBachmann  If by smart you mean successful in business then I can see your point. I was referring to a pure intellectual standpoint. He did get a 46 on the Wonderlic. To put things in perspective an electrical engineer averages a 30.

 

 Chris Kluwe went to UCLA and received  a perfect score on the verbal portion of the SAT and a 1490 overall.

DavidFoureyes
DavidFoureyes topcommenter

 @MicheleBachmann  @ripzone829 Considering the previous tenant in the Matty B's location was a gay club (like, Rainbow Rooster or something) and sat inches from The Bolt and Eagle...I bet a case could be made.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

 @ripzone829 All I know about Matt Birk's smarts is that he thinks two adults promising to love and treasure each other for life somehow weakens society and threatens his children.  Sounds like a dumbass to me.  

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