MN secession petition: Glenn Beck to be first president of 'Dumbf*ckistan,' Faux Nooz reports

theseal

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Clearly most of us in Minnesota are quite happy with the outcome of the election. FOr the small lunatic fringe who feel like its time to check out, feel free to collect what is owed to you, pay your debts, renounce your citizinship, turn in your passport, and see if there is a country out there that wants you. Have fun!

fredjohnson55343

where is the MN petition. I want to sign it. Have 100 friends who also want to sign it.

Paul Gerold

@Chris, But humor is only funny if it is relevant.

MikeW

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I am just disappointed that we cannot see exactly who is signing them so I can ask them why they feel this is necessary. Or perhaps ridicule them. Not sure which would be more fun to do.

fredjohnson55343

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@MikeW I signed it. What do you want to ask me, liberal?

green23 topcommenter

@fredjohnson55343 @MikeW Why petition a government that you consider to be illegitimate, much less one that (as is claimed in the petition) ignores "The Will of The People"?

If you need permission to secede, aren't you acknowledging the ultimate authority of the power you are 'seceding" from?

You put a nasty note in the President's suggestion box. Does that make you feel dangerous?

MikeW

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@fredjohnson55343 @MikeW How would Minnesota benefit by secession from the U.S.A.?

_Joe_

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@keny1 You could NOT be more wrong. There is a ton of industry in Minnesota. In fact, MN is a surplus state. IE: we contribute more to the fed than we receive. That typically means that we'd be pretty viable on our own. Not that I endorse the idea, but we'd be better off than a lot of the welfare states trying to do the same thing.

keny1

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@MikeW Absolutely nothing. The Liberal state of Minnesota could not exist without the funding from the Government. Unlike Texas, which could operate as a self-functioning "nation" in of it's own, Minnesota would go bankrupt the first day. We have no industries here that could sustain the entire state without Government help. So to all you Minnesotans...don't succeed!!

MicheleBachmann topcommenter

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@fredjohnson55343 Was your mom a heavy drinker when she was pregnant with you or was it more due to her dropping you a bunch when you were a baby? I guess my question is were you born this stupid or are you like a heavy bath salts user? Thanks for the help stupid.

ChazDanger topcommenter

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These states would be losing a lot of money from the federal government: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps

keny1

@jmurray50 First of all, if you get your "facts" from Mother Jones......well, you already have lost me. Second, of course no state will abandon the U.S. However, Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world. Theoretically, they could leave from the Union and be perfectly fine. The loss of federal funding would be offset by the taxes that their citizens no longer have to pay to the U.S. Government.

green23 topcommenter

@keny1 @jmurray50 "well, you already have lost me"

Well, nobody really cares.

"Second, of course no state will abandon the U.S."

So it's really *not* a petition to secede, then? Do you define the word "secession" as "a purely symbolic hissy fit"?

ChazDanger topcommenter

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@keny1 Obviously you don't know how sources work, fact checking, and reading an article before commenting about how the article is false.

Considering the article states that Texas takes in less than it pays in taxes, you seem to agree with me. Reading is fun, you should try it.

Joseph Bartel

The only people who still pay attention to Fox News are the 0.001% of the population who actually watch it, and angry liberals.

Melissa Peterson

Totally valid and serious. Succession is what sparked the Civil War.

Melissa Barnes

There are these things called passports and airplanes. LastI heard anyone who wants to leave the US is free to do so. Pack a bag, gather up the young 'uns and women folk and be on your way. What's even better is that is six months when they realize what idiots they are they can come back and tell everyone they were on vacation in Somalia or Irian Jaya or whatever failed state they slide off to.

Doug Farone

What a bunch of babies!!!

ssheldon83

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if you check the petitions at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions you will see that many signors are not from the states in question. Many people seem to just be going from petition to petition just adding names to the secession movement. Anyhow, this entire thing just rings of ignorance and disillusion.

green23 topcommenter

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@ssheldon83 It's amazing how many of the wingnuts believe that getting 25k signatures means that a State has seceded. It just means that the President has to *respond* to the petition.

mingtran topcommenter

@green23 @ssheldon83: where in the story does it say "many people believe if they accrue 25k signatures they can legally secede"?

green23 topcommenter

@mingtran @green23 It doesn't say that in the story, but I showed the story to two wingnuts that I worked with, and they both started sending emails off to their buddies telling them that if they only got 3k more signatures, MN would secede.

Also, look at the comments in other sites that cover this story. More than a few seem to think that TX has already seceded because of this petition, and they are planning to move there.

The story also doesn't point out the irony of so many wingnuts saying that they just love their country so much that they want to secede from it as quickly as possible.

MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@mingtran @green23 It's just naturual to assume most Republicans are that stupid based on your previous posts.

MicheleBachmann topcommenter

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@ssheldon83Just shows what an embarrassment Republicans and conservatives have become. These bigots can't stand a black President so they act like stupid children at every chance they get. Republicans are actively trying to hurt this country because of their racism and bigotry. It's so shameful.

keny1

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@MicheleBachmann Obama is NOT black. He is mulatto.

Paul Gerold

Because Progressive thinking has really been good for the current economy, eh Thomas?

Mumblemumble

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*Sigh*. I realize there's no talking sense to Texans, but these idiots who started one for Minnesota know that Minnesota voted for Obama, right? Both times! And for every Democratic Presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter? They claim the mantle of freedom, while they try and overthrow the will of the People?

keny1

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@thetestosteronewars Jimmy Carter was such a GREAT President!!

fredjohnson55343

@thetestosteronewars I signed the MN one. What's your problem with that Cletus?

green23 topcommenter

@fredjohnson55343 @thetestosteronewars Explain how you invoke "The Will of The People" in a petition, when that "Will" was just expressed in a result completely contrary to the petition.

You can have an opinion, but claiming that *your* opinion is *everyone's* opinion is a logical leap worthy of a true wingnut.

I can only assume that, since you wish to secede, you will no longer participate in elections. Anything less would be granting a veneer of legitimacy to the government, wouldn't it?

Or, just admit that you engaged in a completely toothless, meaningless, and impractical act of 'rebellion' that even *you* don't take seriously.

Oooh, you are so radical!

You put something in the President's suggestion box!

Now Obama knows that some people are unhappy with the election!

Victory!

mingtran topcommenter

@green23 @fredjohnson55343: what was out of touch, incoherent, offensive, and delusional about that? I love how I continually remind all lyou trendy liberals on here that I'm actually more socially liberal than you , yet you all still equate me to representing ultra conservative beliefs fascinates me. Maybe trendy liberals are delusional. Or maybe you guys are out of touch: I rarely side with the trendy conservative stance, however I take their side often times to prove the point that you're using the same ignorant thought process they are, just supporting the opposite side of the idea. Which makes you incoherent and offensive to logic. You aren't as cool as you think.

green23 topcommenter

@mingtran @green23 @fredjohnson55343 I'm not the one speaking in the name of "The People".

You can disagree all that you want. That doesn't bother me, and I'm not going to pretend that I speak for others.

There was, however, just recently a chance for everyone to express those opinions. It was, as conservatives love to say, "the only poll that matters". Now, apparently, it's the poll that *doesn't* matter.

You seem to think that, if "the libs" fail to convert you, it causes them some great anguish. It doesn't. In fact, I'm fine with pulling your string and making you say so many incoherent, out-of-touch, offensive, and delusional things - and then double down on them - that you make conservatism look as appealing as severe head trauma, a bad acid trip, and leprosy all rolled into package.

Really, this should be the time when conservatives try to convince people that you're reasonable. People outside of your fetid bubble reality aren't really looking to conservatives for the answers. They're hoping that you'll come to your senses. Your doubling down on the same failed BS is disappointing, but not persuasive.

mingtran topcommenter

@green23 @fredjohnson55343 @thetestosteronewars: you seem to think your opinion is everyone else's as well. I don't want obamacare, and the fact I'm fined if I don't accept it makes me sick. I'd also be one of the first in line to sign a pledge promising that if I don't have to pay into ss or entitlements any longer, I sign away my right to not be eligible for them EVER. Your ideology invented business at the end of a gun.

Thomas Zocher

Wow! 500,000 TRUE patriots and counting. Oh...wait. Look up patriotism assholes. YOU fucking morons, NOT Obama, are ruining this country. I have an idea....let's let all of these fucking idiots secede to some other fucking land, so we can run a country that makes some sense. Anybody this stupid and easily led, by the likes of a Beck, O'Reilly or Limbaugh really should be somewhere else - where intelligent people don't have to interrupt our trains of thought to give you another lollipop and tell you to go play outside.

Chris Kurle

Idiocracy

Dan Mccurdy

Joseph Bartel- unfortunately it's still a relevant phrase.

Joseph Bartel

Yeah "Faux Nooz" was clever when I first heard it in 2005, but now it's just embarrassing.

Paul Gerold

Actually, Glenn Beck is on record as saying he is against secession petitions. Nice fact checking there, Bozos.

Michele Wendling Ryan

Difficult as it may be, there needs to be a balance between people pulling up their big boy/girl underpants and digging the mega wedgie out...REALLY? I've seen toddlers deal with not getting their way more maturely!