Pine County Sheriff's refusal to enforce new gun regulations has at least one legislative supporter

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Sheriff Cole's (right) threatened refusal to implement federal law has the support of Drazkowski (left).
When Andy Parrish says he has "no intention of abiding" by President Obama's new proposed gun control measure, it's one thing. But a county sheriff? That's another.

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Yesterday, Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole distributed a letter to county residents announcing that he "will not enforce" any new gun control regulations implemented by the federal government.

In the letter, which was shared by the Duluth News Tribune, Cole writes that he believes "current state law is sufficient to protect public safety." He also expresses concern about new gun control measures infringing on the Second Amendment, characterizing the right to bear arms as "fundamental to our individual freedoms."

His position has the support of Pine County Commissioner Mitch Pangerl, and more significantly, Rep. Steve Drazkowski, R-Mazeppa, winner of the 2011 City Pages Best Villain award:

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Will Obama have to pull an LBJ and send federal troops to Minnesota to take AR-15s away from folks like Parrish, Cole, and Drazkowski? On one level, that sounds scary; on another, wildly entertaining.


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paulywogg
paulywogg

DIGITALPROTOCOL!!!

 sounds to me like someone thats affraid of boom sticks,,ya fucking CREEP!!I'M guessing your a urban idiot then? thats affraid of everthing so you go on line and try and sound smart,but ya look like dip shit.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

nobody is trying to take your guns anyways! if the federal government WAS trying to confiscate all the guns- I am confident that almost everybody with any sense dissent. That would be reason to worry. right now, no need to fret...unless you are an uneducated, hickass person with no clue about how things work... like a three year old

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

First off, for all you country ass crackers, you gotta be able to read! here is the 2nd amendment VERBATIM  (this means exactly as it is written, a straight copy)"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."it also had nothing to do with the original constitution, it was later added as part of the bill of rights. It has already been decided by Chief Justice Scalia (conservative) that it has limits and that the government CAN REGULATE. it says it right there people  first 3 words - "a well regulated"and since we live in 2013 the milita shit is moot. why dont all these conservative "because i am uneducated" retards realize that we have an immense military to protect our citizens- that is what the federal governments numero uno is- protecting its citizens

jhill4mpls
jhill4mpls

Wasn't this county's sheriff's office just under investigation for misconduct and missing guns? I hope people don't assume all Minnesotans are as ignorant as this guy.

jsonwerner
jsonwerner

everybody thinks they're jason goddamn statham.

Blueskymgmt
Blueskymgmt

Good job Sheriff and Rep Drakowski!!!

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

Who does this clown think he is? My god you'd think he was the mayor of St Paul or Mpls.. Declaring himself a "Gun Sanctuary County" or something.

Mike Alexander
Mike Alexander

*onto something or on something?* Obama wants cops to rebel against his laws, so he can then replace them with cops who will stand by his rulings. Thus, a modern day SS. Crazy? Hmmmm...

Keith Jacobson
Keith Jacobson

Nobody is above the law but apparently conservative nuts don't think so.

Keith Morioka
Keith Morioka

It's his job to uphold the law as they are written. It is not his job to determine if they are unconstitutional or not. That is up to the courts to decide. I'm sure that there are many laws that the police officers disagree with, but they still enforce them, because it's the law, and it's their job. So, if gun control does become law, and he doesn't enforce them, he should lose his job.

pthorn01
pthorn01

What about state police officers that do not impose federal laws surrounding the use of marijuana, in their respected states, that have de criminalized the use of it?  Kind of a similar situation here? 

Melissa Peterson
Melissa Peterson

F'in libs. You're clueless. It's your SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT!! It is what this country is founded on and what Obama is single-handedly destroying. It's about the freedom! -Licensed and Protected, I WILL NOT be a victim.

webcelt
webcelt

"current state law is sufficient to protect public safety." He's entirely right of course. Please ignore the bloody corpses with bullet holes. About 900 since Newtown.

Jared VanderHook
Jared VanderHook

Police officers are supposed to enforce both state and federal laws, correct? It sounds like he is refusing to do his job based on his own personal beliefs and perception of what the law should be. If he wants to take a political stance on this issue he's in the wrong job.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@paulywogg you stoopid HICK- you are attacking digitalprotocol- telling me what I am! i dont just sound smart, i am. I simply post to get duuuummmm HICKS like you all butthurt. 


I know you some old fuck, fat and lazy. you probably this sheriff, or his boyfriend.

 You must be pro-gun anti-reading? right

paulywogg
paulywogg

Explain it all to me..oh wise one..yuppy!go hug a tree.

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

That is an interesting interpretation of the 2nd amendment to say the least...  just curious, what is a "hickass person" and why is it you feel intellectually superior to them? 

paulywogg
paulywogg

just so happens i know the sheriff, and i can assure you,Hes not corrupt,Hes doing what's right.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@Mike Alexander  yeah that's fucking nuts.

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

@Keith Jacobson Please note Sanctuary Cities. Then talk about "above the law".

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

Impeached for what?  Following the "rule of law" as prescribed in the Constitution of the United States?  He took and oath of office to support the constitution; that is what he is doing.  I suspect that you are looking at this issue as a 2nd amendment issue.  That is not the crux to the letter that the sheriff wrote.  The sheriff simply stated that under the rule of law he is not bound to follow edicts or dictates from the executive branch of the federal government.  His letter says that he will protect the constitutional rights of citizens under the rule of law; that is his duty and obligation as the elected sheriff of Pine County.    

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

@KEITH MORIOKA:  You said, "It's his job to uphold the laws as they are written?" specifically, what law is the Sherif not upholding?  I only ask this becasue I disagree with the premise that the Sheriff is not upholding the law. 

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@pthorn01 Well marijuana is a harmless drug that kills no one.   Guns are violent death machines used by psychos to kill children.  Obama was elected by a majority of Americans.  Sore fucking loser traitors like this dickhead should be locked up.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@Melissa Peterson Carson sounds like you already have been a victim! did you grow up on a farm or something. what are your views on the 19th amendment? should you even have a voice? maybe Barry O should examine the 19th amendment too--- very surprising answer from someone named mellissa

apersson
apersson

Ok, you believe the 2nd Amendment provides the right to bear arms.  Do you believe that right is unlimited, and unlimitable?  So...felons should be free to own guns?  Minors should be able to own guns?  We should be able to own RPG's?  Although there are plenty of gun rights supporters, very few (if any) of the sane ones (and most are sane) would actually say that there is no limit to the 2nd Amendment.  Most people, even gun rights supporters, agree that reasonable limits are appropriate and necessary.

Your ignorance is further highlighted when you say 'it is what this country is founded on.'  Its an AMENDMENT to the U.S. Constitution, i.e. was NOT a part of the Constitution from the start.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@webcelt : yet violent crime is down fifty percent from twenty years ago. Keep drinking that kool-aid.

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

Incorrect... state, county, and local police to not enfoce federal law; federal law enforcement officials (FBI, DEA, ATF, DHS, Secret Service, etc.) enforce federal law.  Federal law enforcement offcials do not enforce state and local laws either.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@paulywogg im poor bud, cant be a yuppie! you are a HICK for sure, that's what set you off i bet


hippies hug trees moron- trees are pretty special by the way, read up

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 pretty sure i did't interpret anything, only supreme court justices can do that buddy. you may be a hickass person if you cant read and do not know what VERBATIM means ( i even defined it for hicks like you) i am superior to hocks because i dont bang my sister!

read up gary!

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@CinBlueland Wahhhhh  wahhhhh liberals do something I'm such a mad little crybaby.  Why won't people treat this idiot fairly because of something unrelated wahhhhhh wahhhhhh! 

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

Local police do not enforce federal laws surrounding the use of marijuana becasue they do not have the jurisdiction or legal authority to do so; it has nothing to do with the opinion that marijuana is harmless.  Just becasue President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans, he does not have the authority to make laws (the legislative branch does that) or issue dictates, via an executive order, to state, coutny, and local police officials...  That is not the way it works; it is as simple as that... 

webcelt
webcelt

@mingtran Yet our loose gun laws are still slaughtering 11,000 of us a year. You know, instead of trying to make up insults to throw around, you might want to learn about facts and context.

paulywogg
paulywogg

WOW YOU REALY SOUND FUCKEN STUPID!!

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 whatever gary- not sure what we are arguing about then - you seem educated and may not be a complete hickass; however, the President surely makes laws. That's kinda the point of the President. 

i am not a lawyer scumbag and dont fuk with breifs - so your reference is moot as are militias- we have outgrown the need for antiquated groups


by the way i am for anarchy not your trite democracy you obsess over 

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

I know what VERBATIM means.  So you know what commas are used for?  I am not concerned that anyone is taking firearms away from people- that would be unconsttutional.  I did not cite Fox News, I mentioned Fox News when I cited  Supreme Court Decision 554 U.S.  570 (2008), District of Columbia v. Heller.  I simply pointed out that Juxsice Scalia has not given a brief or legal opinion about the first three words of the 2nd amendment (right before the comma) nor did he indicate that the, in your words, "that the militia shit is moot."  I agree, I do not interpret laws, nor do you.  I do not make laws, neither do you- NEITHER DOES THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES- that was simply the Sheriff's point

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 TOO! i am superior to you, idiot! learn how to read and write and don't cite fox news as i dont watch to glean information. its all subterfuge.


VERBATIM  - use a dictionary- look it up- that is exactly how it is written!


nobody is taking your precious guns gary - wtf go to school


youve shown on here that you are an idoit and likely a HICK

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

@DP: What Supreme Court case are you referring too?  Or are you talking about what Justice Scalia said on Fox New Sunday on July 29, 2012, when he made some comments about the 2008 District of Columbia v. Heller ruling which was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court held that the 2nd Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm.That decision did not address the question of whether the 2nd amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states.

Those comments made on Fox News Sunday were hardly legal opinions of Justice Scalia or of the United States Supreme Court.  With that said, I believe that what you wrote is, in fact, your interpretation.  As interesting as your interpretation is, I find it even more interesting in the way you mix your superior intellect with name calling and foul language- very impressive!

webcelt
webcelt

@gary.nelson1 But what is your opinion based on? Mine is based on the experience of countries with strict gun laws and almost no gun killings. Our criminal laws and our crimes rates are otherwise similar. Everyone has the same violent media. mental illness care varies widely but everyone else has the same low level of gun violence. The only difference between us and everyone else is the easy access to guns.

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

@webcelt:  In my opinion it is a bit utopian to suggest that gun laws (or any laws) will mitigate homcidal behavior. 

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

I have not said anything about guns... I do not have issues with reasonable legislations that restricts or limits access to firearms.  I am defending the Sheriff because, in my opinion, based on what we have discussed, he is on the right side of the rule of law on this issue; his issue is not about guns, it is about following the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States.  Unlike dictators, the President of the United States, does not have the authority to issue dictates or edicts to the citizens of this country.  tyrants do that, not american presidents.  This Sheriff is taking a stand on the fact that he is committed to protecting the rights of citizens (as defined in the Bill of  Rights).  I think that that is awesome.  He would say the same thing if the POTUS issued a dictate which limilt freedom of speech, fredom of the press, fredom of religion, and the freedom from unlawful searches and seizures.  DP I will leave you with a quote from Patrick Henry; it speaks to the spirit and purpose of the Constitution. 

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interest 

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 why are you defending some scumbag hick sherriff anyways if you are so educated on how things work- and why do you have an issue with gun control measures?

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 again semantics- the POTUS technically can not make laws - but realistically, using political capital, he does actually make laws 

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

here is another way to look at it-  Robbing a gas station in MN is against the law and if you got caught, you would be charged with a felony in a county courthouse prosecuted by a county prosecuter in front of a county judge. The investigation would be the responsibiltiy of the local police.  If you were found guilty and sentenced to jail, you would serve that time in a state prison.

Now lets say you robbed a bank across the street from the gas station.  Bank robbery is a fedral offense (you cannot even be prosecuted for it at the state level because it is a federal crime).  You would be charged with a felony in federal court.  You would be prosecuted by a federal prosecutor in front of a federal judge.  Federal law enforcement (FBI) would be responsibile for the investigation and if you were found guilty, you would be sentenced to serve your time in a federal prison. 

DP,I hate to break it to you, but the POTUS does not make laws in this country- Period!  The legislative branch of government does that- he then signs them into law.  The president cannot create and implement a law on his own; and for good reason! 

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 all semantics man... the sherriff will undoubtly enforce all laws- the feds will prosecute. federal govt doesnt have the resources to ddo all the shit you mentioned- thats why they rely on local authorities to enforce the rule of law. its what makes us the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...simple stuff dude

im 30 how old are you 45-55 i bet


The executive branch is ever-more powerful and does infact creat laws. you wont trip me up dude i majored in poly sci.


as i said you know your stuff but how you apply that knowledge is still questionable

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

The Sheriff does not enforce federal law  ie:

Immigration laws are enforced by Immigation and Border Patrol- not local police

Customs laws are enforced by US Customsnot local police

Federal drug laws are enforced by the DEA, not the local police

Federal laws pertaining to exposives are inforced by the BATF, not local police

Conspiracy to commit a terrorist act is enforced by the FBI no the local police

Enviornmental laws are enforce by the EPA, not the local police

This list could go on, and on, and on... 

Is this starting to make sense to you?  Local police enforce state laws and local ordinances.  They take their orders from the chief law enforcement official for the agency in which they work- not from the President of the United States-  The President can issue executive orders to people that work for the executive branch of the United States Government, and as Commander and Chief, he can give orders to military officers in the United States Armed Forces, but he cannot tell you, me, or Sheriff Cole what to do becasue he has no constitutional authority under the rule of law to do so.  That is what the letter from Sheriff  Cole was adressing- it is not an argument for or against legislation related to guns

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@gary.nelson1 i dont know - what is a federal law that he would not enforce? seems that he would enforce all laws in his county, state, and country

ExcitedDelirium
ExcitedDelirium

 Is it the job of a county sheriff to enforce federal laws? 

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