Brawl at Mpls South High School reportedly involves hundreds, lands students in hospital [UPDATE]

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South was locked down this afternoon after a food fight escalated into a massive brawl.
:::: UPDATE :::: South High brawl: Video captures student saying, "Somalis just be getting knocked out!"

-- Updates at bottom of post, with newest updates further down  --

Today, a massive brawl at South High School in Minneapolis resulted in at least two students being transported to the hospital.

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According to South officials, the incident began as a food fight and escalated from there.

From the Star Tribune: "Emergency scanner communication indicates that numerous ambulances have responded to assist with injured students and staff members." KSTP reports a female student was carried out on a stretcher.

KARE, citing witnesses, reports that "hundreds" may have been involved.

South High has just published a statement about the fight. Here it is in its entirety:
South High School on February 14 was placed on a precautionary code yellow lockdown due to a food fight that escalated into a physical fight.

The incident took place during third period lunch. It began at approximately 12:45 p.m. and lasted 15 minutes. Staff members responded immediately to the incident and followed proper security procedures. The school resource officer and Minneapolis police responded to the matter.

Instruction continued as usual during the code yellow lockdown, but students remained in their classrooms during class periods. South will remain on a code yellow until further notice.

Maintaining a safe environment for our students is a top priority. Fighting is not tolerated at school or on school property. We are committed to following the MPS discipline policy in instances of fighting.

:::: UPDATES ::::

KSTP has somehow obtained raw video footage of the fight. Here it is:



The Star Tribune, citing a conversation with a student, reports that the conflict was "racial in nature."

For more updates, click to page two.



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keny1
keny1

And now we are hearing that this incident was the result of black-on-black violence. This is news? This happens everyday. Ever heard of Chicago? St. Louis? Detroit? Kansas City? Washington D.C.  ALL cities with huge black populations (not to mention Liberal mayors). The problem is blacks. Blacks commit the most crime (% wise) than any other race of people in America. Why can't we just admit this, and then move on to a solution to the problem? If black community leaders can admit that there is a problem within their race, why can't DFL white-guilt Liberal politicians do the same? 

squishpit
squishpit

Yep, well played parents. Blame the cops. They are the problem here.

jl13
jl13

My sister who just graduated last year and is friends with a lot of people who still go there said the incident involves African American and Somali students.  From what I remember when I went to school there was an ongoing issue of African American students picking on or "clowning" on East African students at the school.  I can remember one fight in particular that involved a East African student having milked duped on his head for no apparent reason by an African American student and his friends instigating a fight with him.  I'm assuming from what I hear that this is a similar situation, where probably the Somali students had enough of being picked on and finally decided to fight back.   I think this has been an ongoing issue at Roosevelt as well. 

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

My son is a freshman at South.  I got a robo-call from the District about 1:50 PM.  I texted him, and he responded first: "Yeah, it was nasty. I WAS RIGHT THERE AND THEY PEPPERSPRAYED PEOPLE AND I'M TYPING IN ALL-CAPS TO SHOW THAT IT WAS INSANE."

He then texted me back, "Apparently someone was shot with rubber bullets. They went to the ER. We're locked in class. Heard that a SWAT team was called, but that's probably not true."

I don't want to react much before I hear from him firsthand what the hell went on.  "Rubber" bullets are lethal.  Guns drawn?  "Assault Rifles and sh*t?"  I'd better hear from him that this was a life-threatening situation.  Of course, that's not what I want to hear, but those are some serious measures for a high school food fight.  I'll post back.

South is a great high school.  I'm delighted that my son is going there, and having great success.  This is terrible.

Paul Lockman
Paul Lockman

Well I think it's time to take a serious look at school lunch and propose a ban

Shawn Clark
Shawn Clark

I do not live far away from South High

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@keny1 It was a group of Somali kids and a group of American-born black kids.  Not what is generally meant when people say "black-on-black violence."  These kids are certainly not seeing themselves and each other as being part of the same group.  Like Irish and Italians a few generations ago.  It's the lowest, and second-lowest, levels of the socio-economic ladder having it out.  Not to mention large religious and cultural divides.  And most Somali kids and most American-born black kids are not part of this.  This is a group that has been picking on each other since kindergarten at Bancroft Elementary, carrying it through Sanford Middle School, and then through South and also at Roosevelt.  That's what I've seen personally, since my kids started in the schools in 2002.  Heck, my ancestors had problems with the locals when they showed up as new immigrants.  Of course, that was in about 1640, and the locals were the Pequots.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@jl13 This is in line with what I'm hearing from my son.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Well, the boy is now home.  His story is what I expected.  He was eating his lunch when a fight broke out on the balcony overlooking the lunchroom. The fight was between Somali and US-born African-American kids.  Milk cartons started to fly in the main lunchroom.  Then the police pushed in, maybe a dozen wide, all spraying chemical weapons.  There were not Hundreds of kids involved; it was a dozen or two, with hundreds of kids trying to get out of the way but locked in.  Once the kids got out the way, they fled to the nearest of their classrooms, where they were locked in for the rest of the school day.  Classes did not resume and teaching did not continue.

According to my son, the only injuries were caused by whatever the cops were shooting out of their shotguns.  Some kids are saying rubber bullets, others are saying beanbags.

It sounds like a very ugly incident, met with para-military violence.  From now on, I need to educate my high-school freshman on how to evade this kind of violence.  He'll need to carry a handkerchief at all times, for starters.  Sit close to exit doors, but not at the front of rooms.  The kind of stuff parents in the West Bank need to teach their kids.

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

@swmnguyJust a suggestion "He'll need to carry a handkerchief at all times, for starters." NO - 

1. Too easy to be mistaken as a troublemaker who doesnt want to be identified.

2. Get sprayed with mace or pepper spray go with it. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE! Let the snot run, let the eyes water until you can get flushed with fresh water. The handkerchief is just holding a rag tainted with the agent against your face and prolonging the discomfort. (NBC qualified)

ZeeMickCee
ZeeMickCee

@swmnguy I'm a South grad, class of 2009 and I'm glad your son was unhurt. You're exactly right about South being a wonderful school, and I'm also saddened to hear about this kind of violence marring the reputation of one of the best public high schools in the city. 

It sounds like the police response was pretty par for the course from what I remember of the administration in my days. Just because these are inner-city kids doesn't mean that they're cop killers. I seriously doubt such riot squad tactics and firepower were necessary to restrain the student body. 

I just hope that, if there was a hate crime at the root of this, the perpetrators are punished severely. That's definitely not part of the South High I knew.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@keny1  I appreciate the well-wishes and the benefit of the doubt you're giving me and my kid.  Unfortunately, it's not about who's good or bad.  It's about safety.  When I was a kid in school, a fight was a fight and not that big a deal.  Now it's turning into a militarized situation.  The fights are not qualitatively different.  The response is.  It requires a different sort of parenting, and knowledge, than I was expecting.

keny1
keny1

Well, I am glad that your son got out safe. I will assume that you teach your son principals and morals. I will venture to guess that he had no part in this melee. However, if you brainwash your son into thinking that "cops are bad", you are nothing better than the gangbangers who think that shooting at cops is "cool" 

CinBlueland
CinBlueland topcommenter

@swmnguy @CinBlueland NP, I've got no dog in this hunt, but I've been in more CS filled chambers than 99.9% of any cop.  It takes dicipline (Not saying go mil school on the boy) Do not touch your face! over and over.. Americans are conditioned to looking pretty, not dealing with reality.. Get maced.. let your body do what it needs to do.

keny1
keny1

@jason.dorweiler And in the video, did you see cops firing weapons? I didn't see any. Again. Conjecture.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@keny1 There weren't 300 kids involved in this melee.  The video makes it pretty clear.  There were 300 kids in that lunchroom, but only a dozen or two fighting.  There's a huge difference.  Obviously this got way the heck out of control.  It's a high school.  They have fights every other day, like every other high school.  This one was way out of control.  I don't know what teachers are saying on the news.  I do catch the vibe from the updates that I'm getting from the District that full damage-control mode is ON.  The kids are saying "rubber bullets" were used, and that's why the 3 kids had to go to the ER.  I've heard this from 3 different kids so far tonight, and I believe at least they believe it's true.  Guns were out; pistols and shotguns.  The kids are also saying nobody got hurt before the cops showed up.

I can't speak to the truth of any of this.  Clearly this got way the hell out of control.  There has been a "beef" between a small group of Somali kids and a small group of American-born black kids going back a decade, when my son was in kindergarten.  It hasn't necessarily gotten worse; just now the kids are bigger so it's taken more seriously. Something's got to give, and the schools haven't figured out how to put a stop to it (not entirely a criticism of the schools).

This was a bad scene.  I don't know what really happened, because I wasn't there.  But I do know what constant repetitions of "procedures were followed" usually means.  And I do know that my scrawny little white son is right now a lot more worried about the cops than he is about brawling in the lunch room.  That, to me, is telling.  If the fight were that dangerous and out of control, he'd be worried about the safety of the school, how to get out of situations like that (he did that pretty darned well, I think), etc.  But no; he's concerned about how to handle being maced; whether to just lie down flat or run; if running will get him shot; stuff an honors student shouldn't be worrying about IMHO.

jason.dorweiler
jason.dorweiler topcommenter

@keny1 @swmnguy Ok Keny, because cops would never lie about a situation to avoid a lawsuit. You most definitely are exaggerating the situation. The video shows kids trying to get out of the area, and there are certainly no more then a hundred or so...

keny1
keny1

@swmnguy A teacher who works at South High confirmed on Kare 11 that police used NO guns in this incident, nor did they spray mace directly at students. In your opinion, how should have the police responded when 300 students were involved in this melee? By walking in and saying, "OK, kids, calm down. Nothing to see here. Move along....................."

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@keny1 Just...never mind, keny.  Trollin' is all good fun, but this is real.

keny1
keny1

@CinBlueland @swmnguy  For the record, it is fucking lie that the cops fired their weapons. The reason mace was used was because the thugs...err....I mean students were throwing things at the cops. Also the mace was not sprayed directly at them, but rather into the air. The police used reasonable force and did not use "paramilitary violence. Either your son is a liar or is very blind.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@ZeeMickCee  My son's been aware of the tensions between Somali kids and American black kids since kindergarten, and it sounds like the same old thing again.  It wasn't such a big deal in elementary school, because they were all little kids.  It got a little more serious in middle school, because they were getting bigger.  Now in high school, they're physically nearly adults.  According to him, it's a small group of boys on both sides (the girls get into it a little bit too), but it's hardly a massive thing in terms of numbers, and most kids go through their school careers unaware of it until it flares up, as it did today.

It's not a South High thing, any more than it was a Bancroft Elementary or Sanford Middle School thing.  Obviously the District hasn't figured out how to deal with it, and I can't say that's much of a knock on them, really.  It's happened at Roosevelt, too.

I think the school, and the cops, followed "standard procedures."  That, to me, is a matter for concern, but that's the reality of the world we're living in right now; that I have to educate my kids to deal with.  When there's a fight, and the kids don't settle down when the teachers and lunchroom staff start getting mad (which does settle the kids down 99% of the time), then the cops are called.  When the cops are called,, they come in as a tactical squad to clear and control the area; no questions asked.  I'll need to ask some old radical veterans of Vietnam War protests for some advice to give the kids.  This isn't going to get less frequent; not the way our society is developing.

As for a hate crime?  I'm with you.  If that was the cause, I'm sure it will be dealt with severely.  My guess, though, is that it's teenaged boys jockeying each other the way they do.  Some of the Somali kids seem to have thin skins and things escalate quickly.  That should mean, to most kids, to lay the $%#& off, but that's not how it goes with kids, kids being dumb and all.

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