Man allegedly pointed gun at car, mouthed "boom" during road rage incident on I-35E

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A middle finger allegedly wasn't enough ammunition for 42-year-old Farmington resident Bobby Munn when he got into it with another driver on I-35E on the afternoon of March 17. So he reached into his door pocket and grabbed his gun.

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The driver claims Munn pointed his gun at him and mouthed "boom," and he quickly called 911 to report the incident. Munn was arrested with loose bullets all over his car -- he told police he'd unloaded his gun "because he felt officers would likely feel threatened if they found him with a loaded gun," the criminal complaint says. Well, at least that was considerate of him.

Munn says he never pointed his gun at the other driver, but admits putting it onto his dashboard so his nemesis would see it and "back off," the Pioneer Press, citing the criminal complaint, reports.

Munn's attorney, Eric Nelson -- the same guy who unsuccessfully represented Amy Senser during her criminal vehicular homicide trial -- told the PiPress that Munn "strongly believed and feared that his life was in danger."

Both Munn and the other driver were traveling with their wives when the incident occurred.

Munn, who has a permit to carry a gun in his vehicle, has been charged with a felony count of making terroristic threats.

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korylindberg
korylindberg

So, not knowing much about current gun laws, if convicted, will this clown lose his permit and be forced to turn over all of his guns?

batdan
batdan

Why say "Man" in the headline when "Louis C.K.'s long lost brother" would have been more accurate?

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ffdgdfgdfgdf

Good Job Munn. Another idiot pushing us one step closer for all of us losing our gun rights. You deserve that felony you pussy cat.

mommy
mommy

Eric Nelson- what a sad excuse for an attorney!

green23
green23 topcommenter

"Munn, who has a permit to carry a gun in his vehicle, has been charged with a felony count of making terroristic threats." 

This guy had a carry permit. 

In other words, he was supposed to be one of the *responsible* people that we are ostensibly rely on to deter crime. 

It turns out, however, that he's just a jackass with anger management issues. Maybe he'll feel "threatened" by someone reaching into their pocket for their cell some day, and shoot an innocent person. 

BTW, another article on this bozo mentions that those bullets all over his car were hollow-points. It's not about "deterrence" with this guy.

OLEANDERSON
OLEANDERSON

I thought the CONs say that people in fear of their life are wussies.  Guess people with guns couldn't protect their own lives let alone anyone elses.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Here's where those "Stand Your Ground" laws so popular with certain among us really cause problems.  This guy and his lawyer are clearly setting up a defense based on the contention that somehow this rage-head was in fear for his life.  There are enough Joe Horns or Raul Rodriguez's in America.  This guy Munn would love the chance to join them.  And so much for the canard that permit-holders never do anything unlawful.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@korylindberg He will almost assuredly lose his permit to carry.  Even if the judge doesn't mandate it, the sheriff still can, and it's likely he'll receive some calls about this guy.  Whether or not he loses his guns will be up to the courts.  There's also a good chance he won't pass a background check to purchase guns new anymore.  Which is why we need better access to data and universal background checks.  Also, why we should make straw purchasing firearms a federal offense.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@green23 I should also add, no one thinks that *you* should rely on permit holders to deter crime.  Permit holders rely on *themselves*.  I will defend myself and my family, but I'm not going to get myself involved in a situation where I may not have all the facts or know, beyond the shadow of doubt, who the bad guy is.   Even if it is crystal clear what's going on, I'm not going to risk my life and leaving my family to fend for themselves without a significant strategic advantage.

I will happily call the police for you though.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@green23 Big deal.  Jacketed hollow points are standard carry ammo.  EVERYONE uses them.  Even the cops.  I'm sorry you saw a Mel Gibson movie 25 years ago that scared you about JHP ammo, but just to even the scales, here's another tidbit:  Wanna know what the alternative is?  FULL METAL JACKET.  So there you have two equally scary hollywood exaggerations to cancel each other out.

JHP rounds deliver more kinetic energy into the target.  IE: more knockdown.  FMJ tend to travel right on through.  More people bleed out from FMJ than JHP.  JHP rounds also have a better chance of being stopped by walls.  In a population dense area like Minneapolis, JHP ammo is the only responsible round to have in your gun.


That said, this guy is a criminal and needs to have his guns taken away forever.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@swmnguy No one ever said that permit holders never break the law.  It is a fact though, that they all have pretty clean records when they are issued their permits.  Obviously that doesn't mean they won't ever break the law.  Anyone arrested for DUI probably didn't have one before they were issued their driver's license either.

 More firearm related crimes are committed by non-permit holders than by permit holders by a staggering amount.  I believe a recent CP article listed the annual crime numbers, and based off of the current number of permit holders in MN, that works out to 0.1% of them having committing crimes over the last decade.  Obviously no system is going to be perfect, but those numbers couldn't get much better.  

I also don't think any judge is going to believe that Munn was in fear for his life.  I know Munn doesn't believe it himself.  He's most likely going to lose his right to carry, and very possibly his right to own handguns.  He's probably feeling very stupid and upset with himself right now.  As he should be.

OLEANDERSON
OLEANDERSON

@Juan Fattler YES! Clearly the wives started it all.

green23
green23 topcommenter

@_Joe_   Thanks for the informative reply.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@_Joe_ Actually, Joe, I have read some less-serious advocates saying that permit holders never break the law.  I don't take those assertions seriously; just as I know that permit holders do typically have clean records before and after they apply for their permits.  There are flaws in that system like any other human system, but that's not the big, common problem of course.

I agree that Munn isn't going get anywhere with this "fear for your life" positioning.  I wouldn't say out of hand that he doesn't believe it and is feeling more reasonable today.  I don't know the guy at all.  But I've read enough unhinged rhetoric to lead me to believe that there are some guys out there, with hitherto clean records, who are buying into all this Mad Max/Dirty Harry fantasy stuff.

I think in all my life, I've read of one or two cases where someone used a firearm in legitimate self-defense and was prosecuted for it.  The most ridiculous case was in the UK, and the issue was that the gun-owner wasn't supposed to have had the gun in the first place.

I agree with you on this matter, for the most part.  I was just pointing out the clumsy and obvious legal strategy being mooted by Munn's attorney.  Not that it's going to work, nor that Munn has left his attorney with many non-ludicrous options.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@swmnguy @_Joe_ You're right.  I should have said "pretty sure"  And if not, then alls the better he won't be allowed to carry anymore.  Cheers.

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