Minneapolis cops can ticket you for having car stereo turned up too loud, appeals court rules

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Don't want a ticket? Be sure to turn the bass down on that Tupac track before cops picture you rolling down Lake Street.
It's not just annoying -- it's criminal.

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Yesterday, the Minnesota Court of Appeals ruled that Minneapolis police can indeed ticket you for blasting your car stereo too loudly.

The specific case before the appeals court concerned Marlin McElroy, who was ticketed by an MPD officer for having a "loud bass sound" emanating from his vehicle that could be heard more than 150 feet away. McElroy's ticket cited a city ordinance prohibiting "the operation of any electronic device used for the amplification of music or other entertainment, which is located within a motor vehicle being operated on a public street or alley, or in commercial or residential parking facilities, which is audible by any person from a distance of fifty (50) feet or more from the vehicle."

But as MPR's Bob Collins writes, McElroy's attorney argued "the ordinance is vague because there was only one listener -- the police officer -- and that no one standing on the street testified the music was audible. But the ordinance only requires that it be audible by any person."

In the end, the majority opinion authored by Judge Renee L. Worke ruled that there's no legal problem with the limiting the volume of music emanating from vehicles as long as ordinance doesn't outright ban any and all amplification.

"[T]he appellant's enjoyment of music or entertainment is not prohibited [when a volume limit is imposed]. Further, the government has a legitimate interest in controlling the noise level on streets," Judge Worke wrote. "[L]imiting the amplification of sound protects the peace and quiet of other persons also using the sidewalks and streets."


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28 comments
tqm.jahm
tqm.jahm

people with their loud music are idiots with low or less intelingance. ... monkeys on the street who want a to everyone heard their stupidity idiotic music .....use beatssudio hearphones and stop bothering the quite people who realy respect other people rigths of  be peacefully who dont like noise and love music 

aozimmer
aozimmer

DC, Sundown, Sky High, Crescendo, Fi, Incriminator, American Bass- a few brands that create that annoying bass sound people hate. Personally, I love the hobby of car audio, been doing it since I was 15 ( 36 now) but I don't care to hear anybody else's knock other than mine, unless it's a demo at local bass meet. Hearing somone crankin a top 40 song at a stoplight or driving by is incredibly annoying. I am also an advocate for piece and quiet. Give 'em a ticket if they deserve it-

rhconcepts
rhconcepts

 They should ticket Harley Davidson's when they rev their engines and crotch rockets going down the road. They are just as loud as some of the cars if not louder. Strange that you can even add a sound system to a bike and crank that crap but thats ok too. 

Laurie Selvan
Laurie Selvan

We have quiet zones here...and you WILL be ticketed if you are too loud...stereo, Car, whatever.

Benjamin Freeman
Benjamin Freeman

This is racist. Are they going to ticket Harley Davidson's when they rev their engines, too? Or crotch rockets which can be heard from miles away? Leaf blowers? Or do they just want an excuse to pull over folks who blast rap music? (For the record, I do not like loud noises of any kind).

CinBlueland
CinBlueland

Another bored cop law. Usually MPLS cops are too busy with thugs, shootings, stabbings and the joy of DT/Uptown on weekends to even bother with this stuff.

Kent Erickson
Kent Erickson

'Just as every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints'-Mick Jaeger.

Kent Erickson
Kent Erickson

The problem with this law is that it is too vague, as this defendants attorney points out. It gives police discretion on whether someone's stereo is too loud or not without having to prove that is was or have any collaborating witnesses to back up that claim. This opens up the potential for police to abuse their power, as they often do. What's to stop a police officer from pulling someone over who isn't even listening to their radio and saying it was too loud? Nothing. The cops bear no burden of proof here is my problem. This seems like another money maker for the police to steal money from the public. Protect and serve...good one.

Kent Erickson
Kent Erickson

Candi nice to know your man intimidated a kid..... Tough guy, pick on a kid.

Sandra Fredine
Sandra Fredine

Good. Your rights end where my rights begin. Please recognize the fact that the world does not revolve around YOU and YOUR tunes - most children grow out of this kind of selfishness - but as I can see here the age of becoming rational is getting freaking old.

Jason Bistodeau
Jason Bistodeau

Yet another thing cops will never enforce because they hate to do paperwork.

Adam Klugherz
Adam Klugherz

I'm guessing the part of lake street where this will be enforced is west of 35w... whatever though... people that play their music that loud only do so for attention...

Kinnell Tackett
Kinnell Tackett

Completely reasonable. Glad to hear they actually enforce it sometimes

Candi Olson
Candi Olson

my frigging neighbor kid used to sit outside his mommy house and "bang his subs". my man put that to a quick stop.... before i did.

Yael Vargas
Yael Vargas

I had to hear loud music for 5 seconds as someone drove by and it just ruined my day. said only douche bags ever.

Zane Holmin
Zane Holmin

got a $120 ticket in bloomington, they don't appreciate the sounds of peter tosh

Bubba Silva
Bubba Silva

Track #3 on Justin bieber's track is off the chains yo!!!

Kurt Stafki
Kurt Stafki

Nobody can stop me from blasting Styx. Nobody!

Joe Strom
Joe Strom

But music sounds so good when it's so loud it hurts. - Said no one.

Alex Anderson
Alex Anderson

Good. It wouldn't be so bad if everyone wasn't blasting some shitty top forty hip hop song.

ludwitr
ludwitr

Not to mention protecting the plethora of blind people that I see here in the city.  Probably not easy to hear traffic coming when all you hear is "wub ...wub wub wub ...wub wub ....wub"

djw7785
djw7785

Thank you judge for considering the rights of the many!  Individual rights when they compromise the individual rights of the many are the basis of most of our laws.  People shouldn't be able to do whatever they want to at the peril of others!

_Joe_
_Joe_

Hell yes.  Now if we could only figure out how to enforce it better.

_Joe_
_Joe_

@Benjamin Freeman Care to explain how this is racist?  From what I can find, the article does not mention race.  Nor do the published court documents.  Seems like you're making assumptions.  Maybe you're racist.

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