MN for Marriage: "Don't let the metro area force gay 'marriage' on the rest of the state"

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Senator Schmit, D-Red Wing, is one of many outstate Dems who remain undecided about marriage equality.
Minnesota for Marriage is sending mailers like the one above to outstate areas asking people to contact their local legislators and urge them to vote no on marriage equality.

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Whatever you think about gay marriage, that strategy makes sense. After all, 74 of Minnesota's 87 counties supported the amendment that would've enshrined a same-sex marriage ban in the state's constitution, so support for marriage equality is clearly concentrated in the Twin Cities.

Strategy aside, the mailer's suggestion that gay couples somehow make worse parents than straight couples is dubious at best. Of course, Minnesota for Marriage has a history of twisting the facts to their advantage.

The Dibble-Clark marriage equality bill awaits a vote from the full House and Senate, but it's unclear whether it has enough support to pass. For instance, at a recent public event in southern Minnesota, Sen. Scott Newman, R-Hutchinson, said he doesn't think fiscally liberal but socially conservative Senate Majority Leader Tom Bakk, D-Duluth, will even allow the bill to come up for a vote.

"In the Senate, they'd have to get past [Bakk] and I doubt they can do it," Newman said, according to the Hutchinson Leader.

Indeed, Bakk's recent on-the-record comments indicate that he, like many other outstate Democrats, is lukewarm at best about the prospect of legalizing gay marriage.

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Georgia Connelly
Georgia Connelly

don't assume that everyone living in rural mn is a bigot.

Georgia Connelly
Georgia Connelly

Don't assume that everyone living in the country is stupid...

Georgia Connelly
Georgia Connelly

don't make assumptions, not everyone in rural Mn. is a hick.

Georgia Connelly
Georgia Connelly

I live in northern mn and got a mailing on this...I promptly called the # on it to let my Rep know that I support marriage equality and not to assume that all of out state Mn. opposes the rights of gay people to marry.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Well Hicks, if it's sooooo horrible, maybe you could pull up stakes and move over into the Dakotas or down south to Alabama or Mississippi.

Keith Morris
Keith Morris

Logic? Isn't that one of them fancy words those queers down south use? We don't need no logic. We have GAWD ALMIGHTY!

Jessi Brennan
Jessi Brennan

Dude. Did you even read the article? Saying the MN for marriage twists the facts to their advantage isn't really an "I hate gays" kinda statement. Lay off the redbull, and read before getting so stinkin angry!

Timm McCoy
Timm McCoy

DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE WITH YOUR RAG MAG. Apparently you've chosen a side. The wrong side. People: time to close down this piece of shit newspaper. You were for the people, now you hate gays. Fuck you!

Kent Erickson
Kent Erickson

Sure, 74 of 87 counties supported the amendment, but the 13 counties that didn't have more people than the 74 that did...so who really cares if the majority of counties supported it. The metro has the highest population and also the most educated population, so why shouldn't the metro decide for all of the state? Let the grown ups decide this issue country folks, go back to your shanties.

Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson

Since when do "counties" count more in an election than actual voters? I fail to see the logic...oops, I forgot I can't use that word with these people.

Dave Salmonson
Dave Salmonson

No spring in Minnesota until there is marriage equality for all.

green23
green23 topcommenter

I know that I've said this before, but I'll say it again: it was a poor idea to bring this legislation up this session. 

Polling shows that opinions are moving more favourably in terms of months, not years. Yet, we just *had* to push this *right now* and hand the crumbling evangelical movement in this State a major propaganda victory that will make it *even harder* to pass this in the future. 

You know what *would* have passed? A civil union bill with a recognition of gay marriages from other states. People could have gone to Iowa for their marriages in the two years or so that it would take for opinion to shift enough for it to happen here. 

I'm completely in favour of SSM, but you have to be at least a little bit smart about the political barriers involved.

_Joe_
_Joe_

If you don't like it, lobby your reps to submit a bill that would change how the law works.  Lobby your neighbors to support it.  That's how things work.  Bitching and billboards are not.

kayla_F
kayla_F

The metro area isn't "forcing" anything on anyone. Yes, 74 counties supported the amendment. So what? The metro area has more people than those counties combined, which is why the amendment failed. Physical geography doesn't have anything to do with it.

Joseph M Kerber
Joseph M Kerber

Yeah, let the country folks force inequality on the city folks (and the majority of MN) instead! (heavy sarcasm)

Chris Pederson
Chris Pederson

Well... I'm tired of small town bigots deciding what is best for me.. so there!!

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@Timm McCoy they hate all equally bigot

green23
green23 topcommenter

@Kent Erickson The metro area has roughly 60% of the State's population. But that really only matters in state-wide races or state-wide referendums. Obviously, virtually all Republicans in the Legislature are going to oppose this. That means that you need 100% of the Democrats, and enough of them are from rural areas that you can't get all of them on board. 

So the "majority" argument becomes moot in terms of getting legislation passed. It could maybe work in a referendum, but support in the metro area is not 100%, either. 

This will pass within the next five years. The evangelicals have told a lot of lies and made a lot scary predictions, but their credibility is steadily declining. By 2016, the Right in MN will have lost roughly 25k of their most anti-gay voters due to the Grim Reaper, and they will be replaced by a greater number of supportive voters.

TheConservativeJerk
TheConservativeJerk topcommenter

@kayla_F The metro area, in particular Minneapolis, has less of an education then the suburbs.  According to the US Census...And thus, the less educated get to decide for the whole because of shear numbers.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@kayla_F Farmer Bob up in the sticks thinks that if this passes, he'll be 'forced' to gay marry. I'm sure that's whut he heard anyways.

TheConservativeJerk
TheConservativeJerk topcommenter

@Chris Pederson We all have voices.  Perhaps you should listen to them as much as you feel they should listen to you.  

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