Mpls City Council approves feral cat ordinance [UPDATE]

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Good news for cat lovers looking for a hobby!


:::: UPDATE II :::: Today, the City Council voted unanimously to approve the ordinance -- meaning licensed feral colonies are indeed coming to Minneapolis soon.

:::: UPDATE :::: (September 12) The feral cat colony ordinance was unanimously recommended for approval by the public safety committee yesterday, meaning the measure heads to the full City Council for possible final approval next week.

(Original post published September 11) Today, the Minneapolis City Council's public safety committee will consider an ordinance that would allow for the creation of licensed feral cat colonies in the city.

SEE ALSO: Minnesota owl uses talons to carry helpless, possibly doomed cat into the sky [PHOTO]

Currently, about a third of the feral cats corralled by the city's animal control apartment are euthanized. That might sound cruel, but the problem is that cats prey on birds and small mammals. And since the city's current approach isn't reducing the number of strays, some council members think it's time to consider a cheaper and more humane alternative.

Council member Cam Gordon authored the ordinance being considered today by the public safety committee. If it's approved, it'll advance to the full council.

"We've been killing them, but we're not really seeing that it's having much of an impact," Gordon told KSTP.

Gordon's ordinance would allow licensed residents to feed and care for feral cats only if the animals are neutered, vaccinated, and given an identity chip, according to WCCO.  

David Brauer shared this map of where colonies would and wouldn't be allowed in the city: A Star Tribune report details arguments on both sides of the issue:
Pet protection groups, who would oversee the project, say that it's about time Minneapolis joined ranks with other cities such as St. Paul to become a "no-kill" city, and that such programs are a more humane way of dealing with abandoned and feral cats. Over time, the cat population should decline, they say...

But wildlife conservationists and others say that such "trap, neuter and release" programs only perpetuate the problem of free-roaming cats that are a scourge on wildlife and that there is no evidence they cause their numbers to decline. It's far better, they say, to require owners to keep their cats indoors and discourage their abandonment...

It's not a small problem for the city. Since 2010, Minneapolis Animal Care and Control has killed nearly 2,500 stray and feral cats, a small portion of the hundreds of thousands estimated to be living wild around the Twin Cities.
KSTP reports that sterilizing cats is actually significantly cheaper than putting them down. But Jerry Bahls of the Audubon Chapter of Minneapolis argues that allowing feral colonies to exist might result in the proliferation of cat-spread diseases.

"We like the idea that something's being done about feral cats, but the problem is I think it's going to be very ineffective," Bahls told KSTP.

-- Follow Aaron Rupar on Twitter at @atrupar. Got a tip? Drop him a line at arupar@citypages.com.

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Anonymous
Anonymous

The answer to the feral cat problem is a dose of Tylenol mixed into some cheap canned cat food.  Easy, peasy--cat be gone. 

TheConservativeJerk
TheConservativeJerk topcommenter

"KSTP reports that sterilizing cats is actually significantly cheaper than putting them down."

Oh do tell me more...

dannaspetservice
dannaspetservice

WOW, After reading many of these posts I am still trying to figure out how cats who are spayed and neutered are adding to a cat "problem" and how they carry rabies if not exposed to rabid wildlife, is beyond me. Guess we better start wiping out all animals! And when I think of kind decent humans the first thing that pops in my head is why not just carry a 22 shoot them or poison them, and all the other great Ideas I see posted on here, lets face it I have neighbors I don't like and damn if they didn't go ahead and breed, damn kids cutting threw my yard "Honey get the gun!" or maybe we can just get together with some other neighbors and have a poison lemonade stand. Life has no relevance if it touches my life in any way. These are not my kids or my problem! And damn cats keep killing rodents oh my let us become over run, really why would god make animals or prey on other animals. Humans would never do such a thing! OH WAIT on here they do, they choose to be barbaric and cruel about it as well.

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

Always glad to see the city council tackling the "hard" issues.

Annette Price
Annette Price

It’s revenue neutral, and is likely to save Mpls Animal Control money in the future by reducing the feral cat population.

Daren L. MN
Daren L. MN

Whew! All the other issues affecting the city can wait...what a relief that the feral cat issue has been addressed. ::rolls eyes::

j.reiter
j.reiter

I think we should get Timberwolf packs and Black Bear populations licensed in the city.  We can start them out in the warehouse district and near the Native American Center on W. Broadway.  It's only fair if we are going to do this with cats to ensure we aren't being discriminatory torwards other animals that historically called the region home.

Sammy L Cater
Sammy L Cater

i would be more worried about cats using the garden as a litter box then squirrels..... try look up natural things online to stop squirrels from attacking the gardens...... as for mice glue traps work great :)

Renee' Eaves
Renee' Eaves

Keep your cat inside. They live longer also.

Meghan Blackford
Meghan Blackford

I just moved to FL, and there are cats everywhere. It's surprising for sure, but mostly hilarious. The winters in Minne will kill them, so honestly... it's not that big of a deal!

Tyler Chip Moody Suter
Tyler Chip Moody Suter

Duh - I'm an idiot. It even described cats preying on birds, and still I fail to make the connection.

JimLevine
JimLevine

Could someone petition the city council to do TNR for rats?  If trap and kill is an unsuccessful population reduction technique for cats it must be the same for rats.  Surely it must be better to provide food for the rats and then neuter a few when you can catch them.  That's gotta be the humane solution.

JimLevine
JimLevine

Everyone likes to pretend that neutering a few cats is some magical method to reduce problems associated with feral cats. Some facts from the literature 1) you must neuter >75% of the cats in a city/town/county ANNUALLY to reduce populations.  If you do less, breeding by the intact members of the population make up the difference from neutering the few.  So, TNR, as practiced in reality (not in the minds of it's adherents) has never reached more that 1-2 % of a population.  Yes, those cats don't breed anymore, but overall you've made no effect on the population.  If as demonstrated above, TNR doesn't reduce a population, then it also doesn't reduce predation on wildlife, it doesn't minimize the risk and transmission of rabies, toxoplasmosis, fleas, etc.  So explain how a TNR program is better than doing nothing.  IT IS DOING NOTHING (when talking about populations and protection of public health and not individual animals).

2) TNR colonies encourage abandonment.  If you have an unwanted cat are you going to take it to a shelter?  Not if you think it might be euthanized.  You'll dump it behind the strip mall where you see cats provided with food, water and shelter.  A feral cat caretaker operates on a shoestring budget.  Their first priority is feeding.  Only if they get some extra money do they do some spay/neuters.  Take a look at TNR groups own websites and facebook pages and note how many cats are not ear-tipped.  

3) TNR colonies and the associated feeding brings cats in increased contact with skunks and raccoons (which are rabies vectors).  Yes, wild animals carry rabies, but children don't approach wild animals.  They do approach cats because cats are pets.  Google feral cats rabies and see all the latest news stories of increased exposure. which leads me to 

4) Yes, TNR'ed cats are given a three year rabies vaccine.  They are not give the boosters recommended by vets.  Even so, if they bite or scratch someone they usually cannot be re-trapped for testing so the person exposed has to undergo treatment (expensive treatment, rarely covered by insurance).

I hope people understand now that TNR is NOT better than doing nothing.  It puts the public at increase health risk.  Now, if people were just randomly capturing and neutering cats without feeding, one could argue that that was better than doing nothing, but if you don't get to >75% annually you are doing nothing from a population standpoint.

Fluffy Singler
Fluffy Singler

All cats are feral. You can't breed that out of them!

Katsi Duzynski
Katsi Duzynski

get cocoa hulls at garden centers or coffee shops that make fresh lattes - the hulls are disliked by cats, they will avoid your gardens. Spread like you would a decorative mulch. Like the cypress stuff in the 30 pound bags, you may be able to get the material for very little cost or free ...

John Lumbar
John Lumbar

"Licensed feral cats". Oxymoron of the day.

animalrights
animalrights

Oh and as far as the 140.00 you say it costs to fix them.... here it costs 10.00 a cat at the APL to Spay/neuter, FVRCP-P vaccine and Rabies vaccine as well. IF someone is cutting off the tip of a cats ear while awake and you have proof....SHAME ON YOU for not turning them in for animal cruelty! I get it your a cat hater that's fine.

CH42578
CH42578

I know that Eagles and other birds of prey eat cats. So if we let the natural food chain take over, I think that this problem will work itself out. Cripes, we may even see a rebound of lynx and wolf populations, because it is known that these animals also eat cats and other small pets.

animalrights
animalrights

Nature_Advocate  you usually rant a lot? Wow FYI Bartonella and cat scratch disease are the same thing not seperate. You also forgot Skunks, Rabbits, Racoons, Mice, Rats etc. carry a lot of those diseases and parasites as well.

Kim Maciej
Kim Maciej

Feral cats are different than pet cats that are let outside to roam. Feral cats are 100% wild. I agree people should not let their pet cats outside unsupervised....but killing cats that were born into a feral life by nature, is not the answer. Fixing them so populations slowly decline is the most humane answer. Bird populations will rise as the cat populations decrease.

Kinnell Tackett
Kinnell Tackett

I'm sorry, but it annoys me that dog owners have to always keep their dog under control but cat owners do not. ***NOTE: I have two cats and zero dogs.

Kinnell Tackett
Kinnell Tackett

Get a cat and keep it inside and your mouse problem will begin a decline.

Kinnell Tackett
Kinnell Tackett

I appreciate the concept, but I don't think it's the right approach. Make people keep their fucking cats indoors. Don't let your cat outside.

Annette Price
Annette Price

To protect habitats for sensitive wildlife populations.

Annette Price
Annette Price

Kinnell, TNR will reduce feral cat populations over time. What we are doing currently in Minneapolis (round up and kill) is not working. Populations are not going down, intake at MACC is not shifting. What do you propose we do? If we do nothing or stay the course, *that* is a horrible way to kill off songbirds.

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

Giving a rabies shot to an animal that has already contracted rabies does not cure it of rabies.

The worst part of TNR, anyone associated with TNR aren't adhering to the mandatory REQUIRED BY LAW SIX-MONTH QUARANTINE for any animal when harvested from the wild and intended for any sector of the pet-trade. This is why rabid cats and kittens are now being adopted direct from shelters that hand-out cats from outdoor cat-colonies. Like this one of hundreds for example, Google for: RABID KITTEN ADOPTED WAKE COUNTY.

Rabies' incubation period being on average from 21 to 240 days, up to 11 months -- WITHOUT SHOWING ANY SYMPTOMS. One rare case being 6 YEARS. The ONLY other way; aside of quarantining them for this mandatory, lengthy, and costly duration; to be certain an animal is not carrying rabies is to destroy it for the rabies test.

The 10-14 day quarantine for bite and scratch cases is to see if the animal dies during that time. If the cat dies then the cat was infectious at the time of the bite or scratch and the person must get rabies shots. Rabies can only be transmitted during the last 10-14 days of its incubation period in an animal. If a cat survives after this 10-14 day quarantine they can STILL be carrying rabies until it dies from it many months later, infecting humans and other animals during the 2 weeks before it finally dies.

Why aren't these feral-cat-lickers paying for rabies shots, treatment costs, lost work-time, and all the suffering after THEIR feral cats bite or scratch someone? They don't carry even ONE PENNY of liability insurance to cover their criminal negligence and stupidity. They all need to be sued so hard and deep for directly violating national and international disease-containment laws that they never recover from it for the rest of their criminally-irresponsible and criminally-negligent lives.

Or how about this fun one, Google for: RABIES PROMPTS CARLSBAD CAT PROGRAM SUSPENSION TNR

Rabies Outbreak Caused by TNR! 50+ Pets Euthanized. ALL Stray Cats Destroyed. All livestock destroyed. More than a dozen homeowners pay for their own $3000+ rabies shots.

Google for: Rabies Outbreak in Westchester County

Google for: Rabid Kitten Jamestown Exposure

There's hundreds more like those on the net showing everyone how these phenomenally ignorant and foolish cat-lickers "help" their communities by allowing TNR CAT-HOARDERS to continue their criminally negligent behavior.

These are just the diseases cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Bovine Tuberculosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Rat-Bite Fever, Sarcosporidiosis, and Tularemia, can now also be added to that list.

Yes, The Plague is alive and well in the USA, and it is now being spread by CATS. Google for: Cat-Transmitted Fatal Pneumonic Plague, for a fun read. One of hundreds. Totally disproving that oft-spewed manipulation tactic by cat-lickers that more cats could have prevented The Plague in Europe -- cats can CAUSE IT!

Now add on top of that that anyone who feeds these cats is training them to approach humans for food (contrary to them always claiming feral cats run from humans). What happens to the child or foolish adult that reaches down to pet or try to pick up that now seemingly friendly "cute kitty"? The wild animal lashes out and bites or scratches the hand that has no food for them.

Google for: FERAL CAT ATTACK RABIES

Don't be surprised at the number of search-hits you get nor the horrendous stories that go with them. The number of suspected rabies cases and the then required mandatory rabies shots for each individual costing them well over $3000 out of their own pockets, has been growing as exponentially fast as cats breed. Ask a vet that released that cat, a cat-feeder, or your local government to pay for your shots and lost work-time and suffering? Neither they, nor shelters, nor the local government who supports TNR carry ONE PENNY of liability insurance for the deadly dangers they are bringing to your communities by allowing them to feed and TNR stray cats. Two reports even document rabid cats entering a home through their pet-door and one even came through their ceiling searching for human-supplied foods -- one attack so bad it required hospitalization for the family.

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

Conclusion on all TNR practices now direct from the CDC

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/zph.12070/abstract

Summary

Domestic cats are an important part of many Americans' lives, but effective control of the 60-100 million feral cats living throughout the country remains problematic. Although trap-neuter-vaccinate-return (TNVR) programmes are growing in popularity as alternatives to euthanizing feral cats, their ability to adequately address disease threats and population growth within managed cat colonies is dubious. Rabies transmission via feral cats is a particular concern as demonstrated by the significant proportion of rabies post-exposure prophylaxis associated with exposures involving cats. Moreover, TNVR has not been shown to reliably reduce feral cat colony populations because of low implementation rates, inconsistent maintenance, and immigration of unsterilized cats into colonies. For these reasons, TNVR programmes are not effective methods for reducing public health concerns or for controlling feral cat populations. Instead, responsible pet ownership, universal rabies vaccination of pets and removal of strays remain integral components to control rabies and other diseases.

(end summation)

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

Here's how these delusional, self-serving, and uneducated TNR-advocates are destroying all life on the planet.
 
The TNR CON-GAME
 
FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.
 
FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today -- FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague -- Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)
 
FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR'ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock's offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats' Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn't begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn't going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member's pocket, veterinarian's pocket, cat-food company CEO's pocket, or a drug-company CEO's pocket. And that's the ONLY difference!
 
FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their hoarded cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)
 
FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats' tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)
 
FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X's faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.
 
FACT: In _FOURTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES branch of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to  0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here's how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES' deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can't even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.
 
FACT: When researching over 100 of the most "successful" TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon's 50,000 TNR'ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.
 
FACT: Their mythical "vacuum effect" is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived "vacuum" is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there's no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats' resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of "vacuum effect" at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.
 
FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being -- IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Annette Price 

Oh, one other slight problem. TNR hasn't been able to reduce cat populations anywhere in the world that it's been practiced. Some places practicing TNR for over a quarter of a century now and cat populations are still breeding exponentially out of control in those communities. The UK, the birthplace of this TNR lunacy is now overran with cats too. So much so that these invasive species cats have now made the UK's ONE AND ONLY native cat species EXTINCT this year. How's that for stupid? Stick your head in the sand much when confronted with reality?

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Annette Price  

Until the first person to get bit by a rabid TNR cat sues the city for $10,000,000.00.

Giving a rabies shot to a cat that already has rabies does not cure it of rabies. They need to be quarantined for at least 6 months to determine if they are already carrying rabies or not (or destroyed for the test). This is why TNR has caused so many rabies outbreaks everywhere. And cats harvested from TNR colonies and put up for adoption are now being adopted already rabid. Don't believe me? For just one example of hundreds, Google for: Rabid Kitten Adopted Wake County.

Another fun example causing 50+ pets to be euthanized, all livestock destroyed, and over a dozen families having to pay for their own rabies shots, Google for: TNR Carlsbad Feral Cat Program Suspsension

 I hope your lawmakers have their liability insurance up to date and are able to cover how much they'll be sued too for allowing this criminally negligent activity in Mpls. In DIRECT violation of all national and international disease containment laws. They won't have even one leg of four to stand on when they are eventually sued. And it's not a matter of if, but when.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@Daren L. MN Unlike you, most of the rest of humanity has the ability to multi-task.

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@JimLevine 

You might enjoy visiting the group calling itself the ARA, "Alley Rat Allies" ( www.facebook.com/AlleyRatAllies ), formed just to show everyone how ludicrous, absurd, and ignorant that cat-lickers are with their "Alley Cat Allies". (To be accurate, you'd have to actually call them "Alley Cat ALL-LIES", for there is not one thing they claim that is factually true.)

The ONLY difference between rats and cats these days is that people who own and love pet-rats aren't severely mentally unbalanced and trying to hoard feral-rat populations on other people's public and private properties -- while also relentlessly petitioning all their lawmakers to do so.

Pet-rat owners, and all other types of pet owners, at least have THEIR sh** together.

If only the same were true of all these mentally-ill TNR c-Rat-hoarders.

(I still think it's their cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites in the cat-lickers' brains that make them so unfalteringly blind to their own stupidity, hypocrisy, and absolute absurdity.)

You can reveal to them just how absurd and hypocritical their beliefs are with one simple question: "If you believe that these man-made cats are a natural part of the environment and deserve to be there, then why are you even bothering to sterilize them?"

Astoundingly ignorant hypocrites, to their very cores. 

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Fluffy Singler  

That's why these man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species cats need to be destroyed whenever found away from LEGALLY REQUIRED containment. Thanks for reminding everyone why they need to stock up on .22s.

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Katsi Duzynski

If people are going to waste their own valuable time, energy, and money to make their own homes and lands repellant to YOUR invasive species vermin cats (that's the cat-lickers' responsibility and cost, by the way); then I also found a perfectly 100% natural solution for those who can't take more direct, more humane, and more effective measures (firearms and air-rifles) against free-roaming invasive species cats. Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats for them (from the cat-lickers' own criminally negligent and criminally irresponsible behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! -- PERMANENTLY

It is also perfectly legal in the USA to use poisons on any animal that has been listed as "vermin". Surprise! Stray cats have been listed as vermin in the USA since the early 1900's.

Google for: LILY TOXICITY CATS

Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. Must be from the Lilium species, not just with "Lily" in the common name, see notes.

(WARNING: If these plants are not native to your region don't plant these if they cannot be contained, or risk introducing yet another potentially harmful invasive species.)

It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of lily-pollen from their fur will be fatal in short order. A cat even drinking some of the water in which a bunch of lilies has been kept is also fatal to them.

Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want -- if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can't plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn't it.

A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn't evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it's a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves beyond their 3rd-grade bible-home-schooling and learn all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)

Doing a little research on ASPCA's toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae).

Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do):

Common Name | Scientific Name

Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Lilium asiatica

Easter Lily | Lilium longiflorum

Red Lily | Lilium umbellatum

Rubrum Lily ** | Lilium speciosum cultivar

Stargazer Lily ** | Lilium orientalis

Tiger Lily ** | Lilium tigrinum

Wood Lily | Lilium umbellatum

(not of the Lilium species)

Orange Day Lily | Hemerocallis graminea

( ** see notes below)

Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough:

NONE!


Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has "Lilium" on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. Many plants with "Lily" in the common-name are not of the "Lilium" species, and are in fact toxic to other species of animals besides cats. Double check. On further investigation I also found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or a ground-up additive for a special outdoor can of tuna.)

** There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective. 

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@animalrights

Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species in the USA or elsewhere have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don't even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats' play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave. 

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@animalrights

It only costs me $0.003 (1/3 of a cent) per cat to sterilize and vaccinate them. Beat that price.

I managed to eradicate hundreds of cats from my own lands for less than the price of a couple cups of coffee. 22's are cheap (even more-so on sale, 5000 rounds for $15 comes to $0.003 per cat, 3 cats per penny). The shovel I already had. 3 cats per penny permanently sterilized, vaccinated against all diseases for which vaccines don't even exist, contained from destroying any further native wildlife, and even given a loving "forever home" 2 ft. deep, just like all cat-lickers want for their unwanted cats.

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Kim Maciej 

And here's the real kicker, UK cat-lickers have now made their ONE AND ONLY native cat species EXTINCT by letting their man-made invasive-species cats proliferate. How's that for a clear-cut case of STUPID.

scottishwildcats.co.uk

guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/16/scottish-wildcat-extinction

"'However you juggle the figures, it is hard to find anything positive,' says Steve Piper, the association's chairman. 'The overwhelming evidence is that the wildcat is going to be extinct within months.'" ... "However, it is not the loss of habitat that is causing the current cat crisis in the Cairngorms. It is the spread of the domestic cat." ... "'Essentially the Highland wildcat is being eradicated by an alien invasive species: the domestic cat.'"

That was from over a year ago, I surmise they are now extinct.

The residents of the UK are now the laughingstocks of the whole world when it comes to species conservation. And these are the people that you want to take advice from concerning cats and nature? LOL

Nature_Advocate
Nature_Advocate

@Kim Maciej  

One slight problem. Not ONE TNR program anywhere on earth has managed to reduce cat populations in over a quarter of a century of it being practiced now. Even the UK, the birthplace of this TNR stupidity, are now being overran with cats.

dannaspetservice
dannaspetservice

@Nature_Advocate If feral cats are spayed and neutered how can they ADD to population? As well, If wild animals carry rabies then many animals will be effected it has nothing to do with cats but animals in general. Yes cats can kill small rodents and birds but then many animals kill for food, when food is provided they do not kill so much for food. And the cat "problem" as well as the dog "problem" is from humans who do not care well for animals, it is not because people spay and neuter them. And I have not a clue how a cat that cannot produce has made a cat breed extinct.  So your reality and mine are very different. My belief is that people by being worthless as pet owners are lacking in judgment and care. That is no fault of the animals whom were also created. I have seen first hand that colonies of cats are in fact reduced when they are all spayed and neutered.

thrystic
thrystic

Dear "nature advocate" (that's a joke): First, you are severely mentally ill. (Use of the crazy term "cat-lickers" doesn't help you either.) Get help- and don't walk- run!!!

Second, as you feel you know just about everything, I guess you don't.

As hard as it may be to believe, more cruel and ignorant people than you have tried your little trick of attempting to eradicate.

Since you tout your familiarity with ACA, you I'm surprised you don't know about the Marion Islands study (below).

Or, you are familiar with it. Which means you really don't believe a word you say here, you simply are a sadistic person who likes to kill. We all know sickos like you. So cut the crap!

The vacuum effect occurs when cats of one colony are removed , only to be replaced through nature by a new (and fertile) colony. The one approach which has conquered this effect is tnr- the fertile cats are neutered and returned to their homes- in order to keep a new, fertile colony from coming in and guess what- reproducing!

Anyone who believes in management other than tnr wastes time, money and lives (not to mention rises in populations of rodents) and should know this:

"The only documented instance of a population of cats being permanently, “successfully” removed from their habitat occurred in an abhorrently cruel program that proves just how impossible, impractical, and inhumane it is to attempt to kill off a target population of cats.In 1975, scientists set out to kill all of the 2,500 feral cats living on Marion Island—a tiny, uninhabited sub-Antarctic island measuring just 115 square miles, where there was no chance that new cats could move in.

In their first attempt, researchers aerially sprayed feline distemper virus over the island.

Sixty-five percent of the cats suffered and died painfully (which I'm sure that you "nature advocate" would just LOVE), but the other 35% developed immunity and the population quickly rebounded (Aww, too bad for you).

Compounding this failed effort with further cruelty, they next brought in dogs to flush out the remaining cats. Between 1986 and 1991, the last cats were hunted with guns and, when that also failed, trapped and poisoned.1It took 19 years and ruthless methods to clear Marion Island of cats.

That’s nearly two decades to kill all of the cats in an environment where no new cats could enter. Even in this extremely isolated environment, scientists noted “[T]he recolonization of preferred habitats, cleared of cats, from neighboring suboptimal areas…”2 In other words, they still observed the vacuum effect.

[1] Bester, M. N., et al. "A Review of the Successful Eradication of Feral Cats from Sub-Antarctic Marion Island, Southern Indian Ocean." South African Journal of Wildlife 32, no. 1 (April 2002): 65-73.

[2] Ibid.

In my experience however,  it is just about impossible for the shrinking number of people like you to accept any new and more effective information. In my father's words "You might as well expect the rivers to run backward".

Best for those of us with hearts as well as brains to simply learn tnr and get on with it.

thrystic
thrystic

Dear "nature advocate" (that's a joke): First, you are severely mentally ill. (Use of the crazy term "cat-lickers" doesn't help you either.) Get help- and don't walk- run!!!Second, as you feel you know just about everything, I guess you don't. As hard as it may be to believe, more cruel and ignorant people than you have tried your little trick of attempting to eradicate. Since you tout your familiarity with ACA, I'm surprised you don't know about the Marion Islands study (below).Or, you are familiar with it. Which means you really don't believe a word you say here, you simply are a sadistic person who likes to kill. We all know sickos like you. So cut the crap!The vacuum effect occurs when cats of one colony are removed , only to be replaced through nature by a new (and fertile) colony. The one approach which has conquered this effect is tnr- the fertile cats are neutered and returned to their homes- in order to keep a new, fertile colony from coming in and guess what- reproducing!Anyone who believes in management other than tnr wastes time, money and lives (not to mention rises in populations of rodents) and should know this:"The only documented instance of a population of cats being permanently, “successfully” removed from their habitat occurred in an abhorrently cruel program that proves just how impossible, impractical, and inhumane it is to attempt to kill off a target population of cats.In 1975, scientists set out to kill all of the 2,500 feral cats living on Marion Island—a tiny, uninhabited sub-Antarctic island measuring just 115 square miles, where there was no chance that new cats could move in. In their first attempt, researchers aerially sprayed feline distemper virus over the island. Sixty-five percent of the cats suffered and died painfully (which I'm sure that you "nature advocate" would just LOVE), but the other 35% developed immunity and the population quickly rebounded (Aww, too bad for you). Compounding this failed effort with further cruelty, they next brought in dogs to flush out the remaining cats. Between 1986 and 1991, the last cats were hunted with guns and, when that also failed, trapped and poisoned.1It took 19 years and ruthless methods to clear Marion Island of cats. That’s nearly two decades to kill all of the cats in an environment where no new cats could enter. Even in this extremely isolated environment, scientists noted “[T]he recolonization of preferred habitats, cleared of cats, from neighboring suboptimal areas…”2 In other words, they still observed the vacuum effect.[1] Bester, M. N., et al. "A Review of the Successful Eradication of Feral Cats from Sub-Antarctic Marion Island, Southern Indian Ocean." South African Journal of Wildlife 32, no. 1 (April 2002): 65-73.[2] Ibid.In my experience however,  it is just about impossible for the shrinking number of people like you to accept any new and more effective information. In my father's words "You might as well expect the rivers to run backward". Best for those with hearts as well as brains to simply learn tnr and get on with it.

meesh427
meesh427

@Nature_Advocate I really hope you never own a pet because you sound like an awful hateful person.  Pets are too good for you.

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