Star Tribune draws heat for "welfare mothers and their screaming babies" editorial

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The Star Tribune editorial board is the butt of ridicule and criticism this morning for a bizarre line in today's piece about Nicollet Mall.

In arguing that the mall is already a public place that caters to a diverse clientelle, the unsigned author drops this clunker:
Starch-collared corporate types stroll shoulder to shoulder with welfare mothers and their screaming babies.
Wonder which group the Strib editorial board feels more kinship with?

As if that wasn't bad enough, the next line is:
The homeless and mentally ill share benches with office workers trying to catch a little sun.
Just a few Sundays ago, the Strib was crowing about their new series on the mentally ill in jails (never mind that City Pages broke the story over a year ago). Now they're using them as a rhetorical device synonymous with "undesirable."

So far, the Strib has acknowledged the controversy, but deferred commenting on it:

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67 comments
menace616
menace616

It is what it is. Step back, shout it out! Enough of the "political correctness" poison.

Alirox
Alirox

The Pohlad sons are starch-collared corporate types AND welfare babies too.

David Culver
David Culver

One of the major reasons this Metro area is in such a rapid rate of decline is because it's media outlets are in a free-fall. This is especially true of the Strib. Anyone who takes that rag seriously deserves the resulting ignorance they get as a result!

klriddle
klriddle

Wonder if the power suits in skirts rub shoulders with any welfare DADS who reek of old bong water?

Emily Summers Leabch
Emily Summers Leabch

How about leaving the welfare part out of it. I am a mother and am frequently downtown having lunch with my husband, who could be described as one with starched collars. When our kids were little they came with and sometimes they screamed. There was better wording available to the author to paint the diverse picture that is downtown Minneapolis. To fall back on the easy descriptions s/he did is just an example of a poor vocabulary.

Eduardo Gallegos Parra
Eduardo Gallegos Parra

What does welfare have to do with anything. Next we will have "welfare zones" and "people who pay on their own" zones. Oh wait we already have that.

Eduardo Gallegos Parra
Eduardo Gallegos Parra

How about moms and babies standing shoulder to shoulder with financial scammers and corporate welfare cheats? Yeah I like that version.

k2yeb
k2yeb topcommenter

Good thing the world doesn't have...ya know....real problems we need to solve. With that said, I am pretty tired of people trying to sell me their food stamps as I shop at Target on Nicollet Mall.

Jon Lundberg
Jon Lundberg

And another justification for sticking with the PiPress.

Robert Martin
Robert Martin

After further consideration I do agree that it would have been in better taste if the author had used "mothers on welfare" rather than "welfare mothers". That is a poor label for a group of people.

Robert Martin
Robert Martin

If you were to walk down the mall and ask a random selection of women pushing strollers if they are on assistance you will find some who are. Period. They are there. There is no judgement, bias, or prejudice involved. It is purely demographics. If you go to an urban area, where the less fortunate are, you will find people on assistance.

Annette Price
Annette Price

How, exactly, Robert Martin, do you know they are welfare mothers? How do you go about figuring that out? Never mind, because the answer is: you don’t. Now YOU get on out of here with your biased, prejudiced self.

Rachel Lovejoy
Rachel Lovejoy

Yet ANOTHER reason why I do not read the Strib. They suck.

Ran Dazzle
Ran Dazzle

bad choice of words maybe but dead on in the truth department

Christine Brown
Christine Brown

the very term 'welfare mother' is disgusting. you can't tell from looking at someone if they receive public assistance. and a screaming kid in no way means the mother is receiving assistance. how about 'frazzled moms with screaming children?' the term 'welfare mothers' is just degrading and classist. of course, it's just really progressive that we allow people on public assistance to walk the same streets, isn't it? gross.

Robert Martin
Robert Martin

The author was trying to point out the dichotomy of the people on the mall. The two groups live in entirely different worlds yet they share the same sidewalks at lunch time. There is no judgement of either group, just an observation. If "mothers and children" had been written it wouldn't have been as descriptive.

Christine Brown
Christine Brown

wow. not 'mothers and their children,' but 'WELFARE mothers and SCREAMING children.' what disgusting arrogance and judgment.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Blunts. Reek of blunts. Not bong water.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@k2yeb There haven't been 'food stamps' in decades. 

cnerlien
cnerlien

@Robert Martin Yes and you will find plenty who are not and of those that are most would rather not be, so calling them out in an editorial is in poor taste.

DanMitchell
DanMitchell

@Robert Martin "If you go to an urban area, where the less fortunate are"

You appear to be a genius. How came you by this incredible gift of insight?

cnerlien
cnerlien

@Robert Martin "Mothers and children" would have been fine. It would suggest that the mall is used by both business types and families. My former editor would have nixed the phrase "welfare mother" in a heartbeat. 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

You've clearly never been to Nicollet Mall

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@Eduardo Gallegos Parra how is CP bourgeoisie ?  everyone on here is the proletariat you pinhead

cnerlien
cnerlien

@mingtran How about middle class married mothers and their screaming kids like my wife? Pretty ignorant statement considering there's no possible way you would know if they are on welfare or not. 

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

@mingtran Never Fails mingtran with his assumptions and poor judgement

DanMitchell
DanMitchell

@mingtran And when you've been there, you've asked those mothers whether they are on welfare or not, I assume?

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Bourgeoisie is the proletariat. It roughly means "middle class."

j.reiter
j.reiter

Frogtown is nicer than St. Jewish Park

j.reiter
j.reiter

The population of Minneapolis is less than 400,000; if you are going to be a fact checker or truth teller, you should at least make sure your own facts are correct.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

What a weird, out of context response

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

People aren't always people no matter their social status. Some are more animal than human, and you help ensure their fate. Get a spine and a truth lens you pussy.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Then you're sleeping or trying to prove something.

cnerlien
cnerlien

@mingtran Again you're ignorant. I live in St. Paul and have worked on Nicollet Mall itself for many years. Although you would know that had you asked and not assumed. 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

You've never been there either.

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

@mingtran You really are horrible at proving your point.  Maybe you should get some opinions from others, because all of yours don't hold any water.  Get over yourself.  You're not special because you live in the city with 1.2 million others.  Maybe if you stopped per-judging, you would see truth. instead you refuse to believe that people are people no matter their social status.  You Fuck tard.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Again, you've never been there. The burbs are your spot.

j.reiter
j.reiter

Hahha.  "Racist" You criticize for the exact same thing you just did hypocrite!

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran If you think you can tell by looking, you're ignorant and probably racist too. :-)

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

No need. If you can't tell, you are sleeping.

cnerlien
cnerlien

@mingtran Yes, lower income working class. Such a class tends to be low-skilled and tend to do physical jobs. Duh. 

I will concede that some low-skilled laborers reach the middle class.

And we're arguing semantics because digitalprococol used the term and you in your obsessive-compulsive manner felt the need to chime in and falsely correct him. And my only guilt is that I'll never meet you in person to see if you have the balls to talk to me this way face to face.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

The proletariat is actually a class of workers who possess little skill and rely on physical labor to survive. Certainly those people can be part of the middle class. Don't be so prejudicial.

I corrected myself on that prior statement. Bourgeoisie is upper middle class anyway.

The only reason we're arguing over stupid semantics is because you carry a lot of guilt that is unnecessary. That's why I called you out in the first place

cnerlien
cnerlien

@mingtran Nope you said "Bourgeoisie is the proletariat." That is not what I said, but thanks for finally agreeing with me on something. 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Thanks for pointing out what I already pointed out. Very astute of you.

cnerlien
cnerlien

@mingtran bourgeoisie means "middle class" yes, but proletariat describes the lower income working class. The middle class in this country tend to be middle income professionals. Once again you are wrong.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

It's actually upper middle class, my bad. What do you mean "per usual"? I always beat you.

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

@digitalprotocol I think he was trying to use those words to mean the same thing?  Middle class is the Working class..  Still it's not a smart reply.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran waht?  no, you are way off. per usual

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