Terrence Franklin shooting: MPD officers won't be charged

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Terrence Franklin
:::: UPDATE :::: MPD Chief Harteau on Terrence Franklin shooting: His actions "dictated the outcome"

Today, a Hennepin County Grand Jury decided not to press charges against any Minneapolis Police Officers involved in the fatal officer-involved shooting of Terrence Franklin on May 10.

On that afternoon, Franklin was on the run from police after he was identified as a burglary suspect. Following a wild chase, he ended up in the basement of a home on the 2700 block of Bryant Avenue South. He didn't come out alive, and two officers were left injured with gunshot wounds, but what exactly happened remains controversial.

Franklin's family members and the attorney representing them allege police had no need to shoot Franklin multiple times and kill him. They allege evidence was planted at the scene and that cops essentially murdered Franklin execution-style. On the other hand, the account of events leaked to the media by authorities portrays the situation as one where officers shot Franklin because they had good reason to believe he was about to shoot them.

As we told you about in August, it's standard for cases like Franklin's to go before a grand jury. Grand juries, however, aren't required to hear both sides of a case, and Franklin's family previously indicated they're likely to pursue a wrongful death lawsuit against the city regardless of today's decision.

As police cornered Franklin in the Bryant Avenue basement, a police SUV racing to the scene struck and killed a motorcyclist named Ivan Romero. MPD officials have also denied any officer wrongdoing in that case.

:::: UPDATE ::::

Here's what Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman had to say this afternoon about the cover up allegations being made by the attorney representing Franklin's family: -- Follow Aaron Rupar on Twitter at @atrupar. Got a tip? Drop him a line at arupar@citypages.com.


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Mary Karius
Mary Karius

running from the police doesn't jusitify being killed

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Are there any rules of conduct that apply to County Attorneys?  The most dangerous place in Hennepin County to be is between Mike Freeman and a TV camera, and Mike Freeman is allowed to make any sort of inflammatory statement he wants to the media; before, during and after court proceedings.  He's allowed to taint the jury pool, selectively leak or suppress evidence, influence media coverage, taunt his opponents, criticize judges, demean juries; and nothing is ever done about it.  Defense attorneys need to start using Freeman's antics as grounds for appeal, and start asking judges for sanctions and dismissals.

Pinko Thinker
Pinko Thinker

yea, he was SO guilty he didn't even NEED a trial. nobody got time for that!

Ran Dazzle
Ran Dazzle

cause he was guilty and as the chase continued and then the scuffle he became even guiltier..sorry him or the cop I chose he lose

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

With police work like this, I don't know who is in more danger.  Who the hell follows a guy into an unknown basement, plans to use an automatic pistol in a South Minneapolis block or stone basement, gets close enough to a guy that, according to their story, the guy can grab the gun; if every word of the cops' story is true, they should be fired on the spot for lethal stupidity.  Not to mention they absolutely ran a red light and caused the motorcyclist's death, and they were driving around like lunatics all over the city for the rest of the afternoon.  By their own account, these guys are poorly trained, undisciplined, grossly irresponsible and reckless.  When are we going to insist on actual professional law enforcement?  These guys are like a bunch of drunken Teamsters with automatic weapons.

Dang Da Wei
Dang Da Wei

Only fascists from the middle class justify whatever the police do, especially when they kill an unarmed person.

keny1
keny1

Let's review the scenario:

Cops pull Franklin over.

Franklin rams his car into a police squad and then almost runs an officer down 

Franklin flees and crashes his vehicle

Franklin then flees on foot. 

Franklin breaks into someone's house and hides in the basement.

Officers send a K-9 down to the basement to subdue him. Franklin then proceeds to assault the K-9.

Officers enter the basement to assist the K-9 in subduing him.

Franklin then grabs an officers' submachine gun and starts to open fire.

Officers return fire and kill Franklin.


And the officers are at fault here? Are you really that fucking stupid? First of all, when he rammed the squad car and tried to run over another officer, he should have been shot dead right there. Then he assaults a police dog (and the officers would have had every right to shoot him just for that, but they didn't). THEN he grabs a police submachine gun and opens fire on them.

The cops acted in great restraint considering what this asshole did, but when he grabbed one of their guns, he basically wrote his own obituary.

The officers involved in this incident should be awarded medals of honor.

(And for the record, I am NOT a fan of the MPD).

Susan Marie
Susan Marie

It just seems extremely odd that all the shots were to Franklin's back and the back of his head. If he was lunging at one of the officers, I don't think the other cops would shoot at him and run the risk of hitting their fellow cop. Of course, it's all a case of the cops' story v. Franklin's story - but he's dead. You're right - we'll never know exactly what happened. But I still believe it's far more likely that Franklin was shot while he was down by overzealous police.

Matt Touchette
Matt Touchette

That all said, i the family does pursue a wrongful death suit, then we will most likely get more details and hopefully get the whole truth, whatever that may be. With that, hopefully the family, the officers involved, and the general public can get some kind of closure. Though, every one will just need to wait a few years for it to go through the court system to potentially get said closure.

Matt Touchette
Matt Touchette

Whether he was going to getter treated fair or not, by running from the police he is automatically guilty of a crime. He then put himself in a situation where the only potential witnesses to the prevailing events were him (now tragically diseased) and the police. While his death is tragic, as all are, he didn't do himself any favors.

Matt Touchette
Matt Touchette

You have no more proof of that than the police do that he lunged at them. Without being present at the actual shooting, anything said that disagrees with the officer's statements is speculation. Doesn't outright mean it's wrong, but you should qualify your accusations better.

Susan Marie
Susan Marie

You can't possibly be questioning why a black man ran from the police. Do you honestly think he felt like he would be treated fairly, questioned and released? OF COURSE HE RAN!!! And we don't know for a fact that he "lunged" at the police - that story is just too convenient for the cops. They were so hopped up due to the chase - closing the neighborhood, bringing in a helicopter, bringing in a SWAT team - you can't tell me that they weren't looking to kill this unarmed man. This is tragic for everyone involved - including the police. They really need to take a good hard look at themselves.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Well, if he hadn't have been breaking into people's houses and just manned up and put his hands up when the cops had him cornered, he'd be alive today and doing a couple of years in the slammer. Going for a cop's gun sealed his fate. No one to blame except Mr. Franklin. That said, the cop that got that close to him and let him get ahold of his  automatic weapon should face some serious retraining and discipline.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@Mary Karius No but grabbing one of their weapons and shooting 2 cops certainly does.

keny1
keny1

@swmnguy 

Keep on apologizing for the Negros. Mike Freeman is not the problem. Negro crime is.

dane
dane

Drunken Teamsters?I’m sure that the UPS drivers and many other professionals belonging to the Teamsters Union appreciate your colorful analogy.No one outside of that basement can be certain of what happened in the chaos that day, but it seems pretty clear that Mr. Franklin created the situation that ultimately killed him.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@swmnguy That is true, the ONE cop that let Franklin grab hold of an automatic weapon should be severly disciplined at the least and probably fired. You can't blame this on all the cops and that said, when Franklin grabbed that gun, he deserved all that happened after.

keny1
keny1

@swmnguy 

I hope the cops shoot you the next time you open your fucking mouth.

keny1
keny1

@swmnguy Oh fuck off with your "assessment" You are nothing but a Liberal apologist. 

keny1
keny1

@Dang Da Wei 

Actually he became armed when he grabbed a policeman's gun. 

But thanks for playing.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@keny1 You forgot one thing before the cops tried to pull him over - he had already broken into someone's house. The only officer at fault here is the one with the automatic weapon that stupidly allowed Franklin to grab it. I'd heard it was hanging on a strap around his neck - the weapon should've been secured or he should've just stayed back. And oh, this has absolutely nothing to do with your hatred of President Obama.

mohanlon3
mohanlon3

@Susan Marie no, not at all likely as the forensics would show an impact from a different angle as well as exit wound damage to the floor, if he had been plugged while face down. But hey, if it makes you feel better to think this scumbucket didn't deserve what he got, then please, fantasize away, maybe he will come riding back into the world on a unicorn...

keny1
keny1

@Susan Marie 

What you believe and what actually happened are two different things.

mohanlon3
mohanlon3

@Susan Marie he ran because he was caught in the act of a felony, fair treatment is what he got.  The cops gave him several breaks where he could have done anything other than resist.  Basically you're a moron with an unconditional case of Cops all wanna shoot black folks, which makes you a racist..  If he had broken into my house, I would have disemboweled him with a 3 foot sword.  He got popped in the head, basically, he got it LUCKY.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@Susan Marie Good point except for the fact that Franklin wasn't unarmed - he went for the cop's gun and they have DNA evidence to prove it. He was a worthless fkg thief breaking into people's homes. I really feel bad for the poor guy riding his motorcycle a mile away who was killed by a cop racing to the scene a half hour after the shooting was over. That's the real tragedy here.

jo1glex
jo1glex

@keny1  I would not have pegged you for a big Mike Freeman fan.  Of course, anybody who runs roughshod over the Constitution and the legal process is probably fine with you, as long as he's doing it to black people.  Wait 'til Freeman goes after tax cheaters.  Then no doubt you'll be whining and crying all the way from your temp job back to your parent's basement in Fridley.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@MNjoe  I don't know if you live here in Mpls. or not.  Franklin screwed up when he ran from the cops in the first place.  The way the MPD tolerates unprofessional behavior, I don't think we can have any firm opinions on what happened next, until Franklin was dead and the cops had bullet wounds.  Nobody with any sense, much less training, would follow a guy into a South Minneapolis basement with an automatic weapon.  They're all block foundations, and they tend to be rabbit warrens.  You're walking into an ambush, and you're more likely to be wounded by a ricochet than hit a target.  Anybody with any sense would sit outside and wait for the guy to come out.  Making the life of a dog more valuable than the life of a human (even a suspected criminal) makes these situations worse too.

I'm not trying to excuse Franklin here. I'm barely talking about Franklin. I'm saying that as resident of Mpls., I'm sick to death of our cops screwing up situations,using violence as a last resort to bail themselves out of fiascos they caused through lack of discipline and poor training, and then letting themselves off the hook by repeated whitewashes, stonewalling, and claiming "Proper Procedures Were Followed."  Then they write 7-figure checks with confidentiality clauses to settle the deal.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Rupar:  Now that is funny.  You delete Keny's copraphagy fantasy quotes, and the one calling me some sort of vagina copulator (or copulation; the syntax was so poor I couldn't tell what the subject was).

But "I hope the cops shoot you the next time you open your fucking mouth" is perfectly OK.  Actually, the poo-eating reference was more civil.

You and Keny crack me up.

keny1
keny1

@MNjoe 

Oh my God. I actually agree with you for once.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@keny1 your mind is so fucked


500k houses, ya right. almost nobdy lives in 500k+ houses you fukin moron

jo1glex
jo1glex

@keny1Your geography and knowledge of real estate are as fake as your persona.  SWMNGUY talks about his neighborhood all the time.  It's by Minnehaha Creek.  'Nuff said about that area.

As for the residences of educated white people in their '40s, you clearly know nothing whatsoever.  Not surprising; there aren't any $500,000+ houses in Fridley that rent out their basements, so what would you know.  

What are you saying?  There are no "white people who are educated and are in their 40's" in Fridley?

Obviously you aren't among the homeowning class, so you wouldn't know what a house costs in the Twin Cities market, no matter what neighborhood.

You're in a hole, dumbshit.  Stop digging.

jo1glex
jo1glex

@keny1  You're a fake troll who brags about living in a basement apartment in Fridley.  Sometimes you pretend to be gay.  You're usually racist, and now you show a weird sense of classism as well.  It's not working.  You need a new persona to drive clicks.

keny1
keny1

swnmguy is nothing but an apologist.Liberal pussy-pink Nancy Boy. His words just prove that. He "thinks" he knows what the police should have done, yet he was never actually at the scene of the crime. He just "thinks" that his assessment of the crime is righteous because he "says so". In other words, what he says is "right". Because he says so. Because he is an an expert in police protocol and tactics, the MPD should bow down to HIM, because he just fucking knows better than they do. One more thing. swmnguy lives in the fucking nasty ghettos of south Minneapolis. Why? Because he can't afford to live anywhere else. He is in his 40's and never graduated to anything better. Most white people who are educated and are in their 40's live in $500K+ houses. Yet, you are still stuck living in Powderhorn Park. Loser X 10. Let me guess....the Republicans have prevented you from upward mobility. LOL!!!  

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@Realist  Right.  So you think it's genius to go into an unfamiliar basement with block walls with a gun, looking for some guy whom you don't know if he's armed or not, when you could just sit outside and wait for him to come out?  Calling him on a bullhorn every once in a while so he knows you're waiting, maybe finding his mom (since you by now know who he is and you have his girlfriend) to call to him over the bullhorn?

Please post what sort of "training or education," much life normal everyday life experience, that leads you to completely miss the reasonable and obvious course of action anyone with any sense or training in crisis management would pursue.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@Realist  You disproved your assertion in the quote you pulled from my comment.   I said "Just go get him."  Therefore, as you proved, I do not advocate "allow[ing] drunk drivers to continue driving..."

As for your name-calling, something about glass houses comes to mind...

Realist
Realist

@swmnguy @MNjoe"Just like the guy who killed a kid while driving drunk and fleeing the cops a couple weeks ago; why chase him?  You know who he is.  You can see where he's going.  Just go get him."

 So... let me get this straight. We're supposed to allow drunk drivers to continue driving because we know who they are? Are you a fucking moron?

Realist
Realist

@swmnguy @MNjoe "Nobody with any sense, much less training, would follow a guy into a South Minneapolis basement with an automatic weapon."

 Please post what training or education  you possess that allows to question their actions.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

@MNjoe  Oh, OK. I actually live a couple blocks further away.  So you know the area and follow the local news.

Yeah, I'm not even commenting on Franklin.  The whole incident started because a guy saw him and recognized him as the guy who had robbed his house recently.  So right there, you know.

I think that applying military-style tactics to these situations is a bad idea for everyone involved.  Most of these situations crop up when a person who is already dumb and prone to panicking and making bad decisions under stress completely freaks out when being confronted.  A guy like this can't outrun a radio. 

As you say, the cops will know who he is within minutes.  Just like the guy who killed a kid while driving drunk and fleeing the cops a couple weeks ago; why chase him?  You know who he is.  You can see where he's going.  Just go get him.

Police tactics are based on overwhelming use of force. I think that's a misunderstanding of what is going on in most incidents, and who and what kind of people are involved in these incidents.  I think there are safer, more effective, easier ways to deal with these situations. But they aren't as sexy, don't consume as many resources, and don't play nearly as well in the media.

I don't believe most cops want to kill anybody.  The cops who panicked and drove around the rest of that day like they were in "Grand Theft Auto" nearly killed a lot of people, including me driving on 42nd St. at Park Ave. 2 hours later.  Leaving Franklin totally out of this, our cops don't look well trained or disciplined to me, and I have my doubts about the content of their training, to boot.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@swmnguy @MNjoe I live about 8 blks from where this happened and I remember the cops had a 4 blk radius taped off around the house when it happened. I was out riding my bike and am happy not to have been killed by a speeding cop car long after the incident was over.  Anybody with any sense (talkling about Franklin here) would've just given up at that point. If they didn't know who he was yet, they would soon when they talked to the women in the PT Cruiser he crashed before he took off running. This guy was a POS who likely would've continued to prey on society until he was dead or imprisoned. Good riddance.

jo1glex
jo1glex

@swmnguy @keny1  You meant to say, "Hi, Rupar."  Because there's no other way those comments stay on the board. 

keny1
keny1

@MNjoe 

If anyone should be suing the MPD, it should be the motorcyclist's family.

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