Why did no one help Mark Andrew when he was mugged?

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"Why did no one help Mr. Andrew?"

It's true: No one at the packed Starbucks in the busy Mall of America intervened, even as the mayoral runner-up was attacked by two women -- one wielding a metal baton, the other gouging with fingernails, both screaming, "We're going to kill you!"

As to why no one helped, Andrew told the Strib"They were too afraid."

That's not good enough for our reader, who claims she would've gone to war with her walking stick:

I am a 65 yr old woman with a walking cane and if I had been near the beating site of Mr. Andrews at Starbucks at the MOA I like to believe I would have gotten in there with my cane and/or at least pulled the girls'hair to help him until the Security guards could arrive.  How lonely, forlorn and helpless victims are when no one will step forward. Are we like NYC where women can be screaming 'rape' and people just hurry by or close their windows.  How can you live with yourselves?

So what should you do if you witness a mugging? Experts advise calling 911. You can try shouting, but only at a safe distance.

One thing you shouldn't do: Attack the mugger with your cane. Probably not a good idea to pull hair either.

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Meg Nathan
Meg Nathan

There were TWO of them, one armed with a metal bar of some kind.

Jean C Thorne
Jean C Thorne

I would have been right beside you Meg - can't allow these kinds of things to happen

Jean C Thorne
Jean C Thorne

If you do nothing to help you are as bad as the perpetrator - maybe even worse... shame

Rick Miller
Rick Miller

Damn near perfect description of them

Michael G Strouss
Michael G Strouss

Oh come on, he was mugged and beaten at a crowded Starbucks. If nobody feels they can overpower a couple of crack addled teenage girls, they could at least douse them with a hot cup of coffee!!!!

JL1969
JL1969

And the "pussification" of America continues...

Nicki Larkin
Nicki Larkin

The kid had billy clubs in her weave... Who knows what else she was hiding. The mall is staffed with real police for a reason.

Nicki Larkin
Nicki Larkin

I wonder if people would be as upset about this if it were an average joe whose phone got stolen and got beat up..

Bob B Bopp
Bob B Bopp

Read Ray Bradbury's "The Crowd".

Kirk Bednarchuk
Kirk Bednarchuk

Because society as a whole has become a bunch of watchers not doers

Christian Johnson
Christian Johnson

I can see not getting involved if some buff dudes are the perps, but two teenage girls? I'd have gone in

Dan Lemke
Dan Lemke

He DID stand up for himself. Why didn't the Starbucks employees or anyone else help? They are the real pussys and should be fired. Where were the rent a cops???

Aimee Jackson
Aimee Jackson

This is not the point of the story, but why does everyone keep calling Mark Andrew an "elderly man"? He's a pretty fit dude in his early 60s. Also, everyone here keeps saying how much Minnesotans suck not wanting to get involved, but keep in mind the majority of folks at MOA are not Minnesotans, they are tourists from elsewhere.

Chad Nordstrom
Chad Nordstrom

Also, since guns don't deter crime one bit, I will assume you are in favor of disarming (among others): the police, the DHS, the Secret Service, etc. Or aren't you?

David Duerre
David Duerre

I disagree that nobody cares about other people, I really think people don't want to get involved because they are afraid of being shot or having a mob turn on them. Because we have funneled so many people thru our sick prison system we now have subset of our society that is ultra violent.

Lola O Adesuyi
Lola O Adesuyi

The bystander effect.. Standing by or turning a blind eye on your neighbor when they need help in an emergent situation is just plain sad. EVERYONE in that Starbucks should be ashamed of themselves! To make matters worse, it was an elderly man that was being attacked! Makes me so sad! I can't imagine that being my father..I'd be devastated

alsdkfj
alsdkfj

Bystander effect? It's not new. Best thing to do if you're attacked is to specifically tell a person to help you, it snaps people out of it and gets them to action. I don't see why people should just call 911 and wait it out either, that seems stupid. People are supposed to just for their hero law enforcement to arrive? If you're so inclined to intervene, please do!

Lily Ann
Lily Ann

Linden Hills Deinard stfu. You are what's wrong with my state.

Lily Ann
Lily Ann

And Diane Rasmussen I have fought back before when a shit brat dug into a tip jar on 5th in Gaslamp in San Diego, chased him into a corner of a store and got his ass arrested. Don't talk about things you don't know about

Lily Ann
Lily Ann

Stealing is not ok you shits! We have a ridiculous crime rate in this area and maybe you're ok with anarchy but it will be your asses. I will continue to not let brats run my life.

Chad Nordstrom
Chad Nordstrom

No, not at all. Or not necessarily. But if YOU were under attack by one or more hostile individuals, would you rather rely or police (in other words, be helpless and allow them to draw a chalk outline around your corpse later) or would you rather have some ability to fight them off?

TweetsAreYours
TweetsAreYours topcommenter

I asked the same question. Sad world when two thugs can attack somebody in a busy mall and people just watch. #TweetsAreYours

Anne-Marie Wagener
Anne-Marie Wagener

In reality yes, you intervene. I've done it and will again. I guess it's either in you or isn't.

Pat Vance
Pat Vance

And linden hills I doubt very much that the bystanders knew who he was. They just didn't care to be involved.

Pat Vance
Pat Vance

Because most people are too self-involved. About 28 years ago my mother-in-law was leaving the downtown mall in Mankato after work. It was about 9:15 pm. As she was going to the parking ramp she saw a guy straddling another guy pounding the guys head on the pavement. Because it was the entrance used by the movie theater there were at least 25-30 people around. None of them were doing ANYTHING!! No one had even thought to go in to ask for the police to be called(way before cell phones). Mother-in-law yelled at the people standing there for someone to go call 911, then went in with her "briefcase/bag" and screamed at the guy to stop or she would knock him out cold with her bag!! That finally got some action from a couple of the men who had been standing there to "help" too! But it took a woman of 60 to step in first!!! Like she said to me later " I didn't know why it was happening and still don't but what I saw happening was wrong! So I did what had to be done." This was only a couple weeks after a guy died during/after a bar fight in Mankato, when someone punched him in the face and his head cracked back into a brick wall.

CelebrateDivershitty
CelebrateDivershitty

Those brave Social Justice Warriors of Blackness were just trying to help Mark Andrew become more "progressive" by forcibly dismantling his White Privilege and by beating his Whiteness until it bled.  The "progressive" libtard bloggers at citypages should be celebrating, because this is the logical end-result of all your naive "progressive advocacy".

ohgosh
ohgosh

here's how an attack like this goes down. you're going about your day enjoying your latte. maybe you're thinking about one of those travel cups they have for sale, or getting some chocolate covered coffee beans, maybe you're in mid conversation with your spouse or kids. you hear a commotion and notice people around you are looking at something. you look to see their focal point and see an old ass man wrestling on the ground with two punk ass ghetto bitches who are screaming like they're on jerry springer (like they always do). you have no idea what is going on. are they defending themselves? are they attacking him? is a cop going to intervene? should you call the police? where are the police? are they armed? that one is hitting him with something? you instantly make sure you, your family and your property are safe, as is instinct. if in the few seconds that this attack happens it occurs to you to intervene, since you are not a ghetto ass black bitch, you ask yourself about the legal ramifications. am I going to get sued? keep in mind this sort of thing happens in just a few seconds. factor into your calculations that you are a white person and the individuals you have now surmised are the assailants are black and any negative interaction will result in you being labeled a racist. so yes, while it is easy to play monday morning quarterback, the reality is most people wouldn't intervene for very good reason. i like to believe i would have seized the opportunity to cunt punt the ghetto hos. but not having been there, it's really not fair to say. also, all blame for this incident really needs to be put on the thieves and attackers, so direct your anger where it's deserved. lastly, fuck mark andrew anyway. every time a pollyanna progressive crybaby gets bit by the dogs they help feed it's a good thing. 

CelebrateDivershitty
CelebrateDivershitty

Why?  Because white liberal "progressives" are wimpy weaklings and cowards.

Richard Lambert
Richard Lambert

Not sure about others but I'm prone to jump in and attempt to separate those engaged and defuse the situation...especially when an older fellow is being beaten by two young female thugs...

Anne-Marie Wagener
Anne-Marie Wagener

I thought the writer was a wimp, mocking a lady who would have used her cane. What a mollusk he is and what a rightfully indignant cane-wielding lady she is!

Jason Thor Carle
Jason Thor Carle

Because people are fucking pussies / don't give a shit about other people...

Linden Hills Deinard
Linden Hills Deinard

Oh no.. I don't condone her behavior at all. Horrible. But the question was, why did nobody help? He is hardly a citizen in distress. He is Mark Andrew. Lake Harriet property. Advocate of stealing from the poor to give to the rich. He put people in jeopardy. I was not there.. But perhaps that was what was crossing folks minds

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

what a loser, he loses mayoral race to a woman and gets beat up by two women

Christine Brown
Christine Brown

right. he has a nicer phone than she does. so she DESERVES his phone, and it's perfectly ok for her to resort to killing him if that's what it takes.

Natalie Goodwill
Natalie Goodwill

I thought ppl did help? On the news they said the girls were apprehended because witnesses stopped and held them. #FactCheck

Jonathan Lund
Jonathan Lund

Just wait til summer arrives. These kids are so fucking entitled: what's yours is mine, what's mine is mine, I should get free housing, get to have kids and never have to work, be able to qualify for SSI for some bullshit disability and get to go to college for free. I hope these girls enjoy being 'cheesecake' for the 400 pound inmates who can't wait to have a young bitch to punch around for awhile.

AnnabelleMN
AnnabelleMN

Uh, absolutely. No one deserves to be beaten and mugged for something they themselves worked to pay for.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@CelebrateDivershitty You are a shitty evil person.  Your racist stupidity is completely mocked in society by normal people.  Normal people know that every race has criminals but only the stupidest most cowardly people bring racism into stories like this.   Racist idiots like you are the biggest cowards in society because you only talk tough on the internet.   Keep up the big talk tough guy.  No one listens to you except to laugh and laugh at what stupid assholes Republicans are these days.  

marykarius
marykarius

are you serious?! jezus, control yourself and find some heart. If you can.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

Jeez you are a shitty person.  You hope for violence on a young girl who made a mistake.  You just prove that if you weren't born with a silver spoon in your mouth you would have ended up just like her.   A mean violent little creep that goes around causing misery in the world.  I hope that makes you happy.  Thinking about all the ways this 18 year old's life is ruined for the mistakes she made.   I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished but you are a creepy evil asshole for hoping she gets to be a crime victim too.  

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Straight psychosis. You are the most mocked user in the CP blogosphere. Keep commenting so we can mock you more.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Look around you. Everyone else is sane, you are clearly the crazy one.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

I was the first one to call out your lies about the murder weapon used in the SandyHook shootings. I posted links and so did others. Even after multiple sources from other people you still clung on to that AR-15 scapegoat. You probably still think the murder weapon was an AR-15. After it was well established fact the weapons involved were two handguns, i called you out for your retarded belief system for calling others out about their retarded belief systems, but you wouldn't comment back about the AR-15 lies you told. That's the most glaring example of your psychosis.

Another real easy one is the fact that you lump anyone who doesn't agree with you into the "racist, republican, fox news" set, completely and totally lambaste them, get called out when someone points out your stupidity for lambasting them, then whine when someone lambastes you. You are a grade A psycho and everykne knows it.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@mingtran  I tried to be civil to you once upon a time but all you do is name call or type childish conspiracy theories.  If anyone bothers to look at your commenting history they will see that I tell the truth.   You aren't even smart  enough to write more than one or two sentences.  I mean you post constantly but never actually have much to say.   Let's see something dumb guy.  Prove me wrong.  Write an interesting paragraph related to the topic.  Let's see you say something smart that is actually backed up with facts.  All I've ever seen from you is name calling.  Prove me wrong stupid.  I'd love to see what your tiny brain can come up with.   

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