MNGOP Rep. Davids says MNsure will literally mean doomsday for some Minnesotans

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Thissen (right) characterized Davids's doom-and-gloom scenario as "rhetoric designed to scare Minnesotans."
Last week, Rep. Greg Davids, R-Preston, made a bold and terrifying proclamation: He told the Rochester Post Bulletin that "people will die because of MNsure. That's a fact."

RELATED: Pat Kessler eviscerates MNsure, says officials lied to him

As the January 1 deadline approaches, at which point some folks could lose their health insurance if they can't navigate MNsure's balky website and enroll for a plan, Davids said reporters will soon be seeing "people walking out without life-saving surgery, without their chemotherapy because they don't have an insurance card."

His comments echoed those of Michele Bachmann, who said last spring that Obamacare "literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens."

But Democrats said Davids's remarks were nothing more than fear-mongering, especially since he and his fellow Republicans don't really seem to have an alternative plan in mind.

Along those lines, House Health and Human Services Policy Committee Chair Tina Liebling, D-Rochester, told the Post Bulletin the exchange's rollout means that "for the first time lots and lots of people are going to have coverage they never had before -- whether public or private."

And Rep. Paul Thissen, D-Minneapolis, also chimed in with a separate Post Bulletin op-ed blasting Davids.

"[I]f Rep. Davids really believes the lives of Minnesotans are in danger because of MNsure's problems, I would love to see his alternative plan," Thissen wrote. "Because simply throwing political bombs from the cheap seats won't do a single thing to help Minnesotans get access to quality, affordable health care."

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swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

There are plenty of legitimate problems with MnSure and ObamaCare in general.  However, none of the Republicans can or will address or even acknowledge the real problems, because it's fundamentally their own plan!  This plan is a compilation of some ideas tossed around on the Right in the 1980s when health insurance first got too expensive for many people, then codified by the Heritage Foundation in 1993 as a counter to "HilaryCare," then refined and put into practice by Hugh Romney when he was Governor of Massachusetts.


Obama, mimicking Bill Clinton in so many ways, "triangulated" by stealing a Republican plan and getting it enacted.  That way he can marginalize everyone to the Right of mainstream Republicans, and leave everyone to the Left with no choice but to go along. It worked great for Bill Clinton, but it did earn him the undying hatred of the Republicans, leading to the impeachment fiasco.


The policies themselves were of course complete BS, as the Republican Party hasn't had a functional idea in decades, other than, "Reinstate Feudalism, except without the Great Chain of Being and the requirement of noble lineage; just whoever has lots of money gets to be aristocrats."


The problem with the Republican health care finance plan Obama has co-opted is that private health "insurance" (scare quotes because it isn't insurance at all) is the factor at the root of the health care cost crisis in the first place.   Making private health insurance mandatory, tweaking and standardizing the rules and using the tax code to subsidize it does absolutely nothing to solve the affordability problem.  It just buys the industry a couple more years to loot the middle class and the bond market before a critical mass of people and employers can no longer afford it and the current shambles of a system collapses.


For individuals needing critical health care currently being denied it, it's a lifesaver.  But it's not sound long-term policy.  And the Republican "alternatives" can be summed up as, "Don't get sick if you're aren't in the top 20% of income."

Kevin Moran
Kevin Moran

People should read the whole piece. The other side makes sense!

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

And how many people have already died or went bankrupt because of greedy insurance companies and their record of denying coverage for pre-existing conditions or other "technicalities?"   Dems have been trying to change heathcare laws in the peoples' favor for decades and the Repubs keep obstructing the process while offering no plan of their own.  As I've said before, most Republicans are scum with no empathy for anyone else - most Christian Republicans are the worst hypocritical scum on this Earth - pretty much equal to the Taliban.

KathyandDon Miller
KathyandDon Miller

Tanya, did you notice that Greg Davids was a fellow teacher & your dad's friend when we lived in Ellendale...I think he taught Social Studies.

Gerhart Toller
Gerhart Toller

People are going to die because on what? People are going to die because of war, poverty, greed, and natural causes. We all are going to die. That is a fact.

midwestexplorer81
midwestexplorer81 topcommenter

The point Davids is making is that people who currently have insurance may have an insurance gap because of the MNSure enrollment problems. Some people's insurance is no longer being offered and they need to get on MNSure now but can't. Davids doesn't need to have an alternative plan in order to point out the obvious. If the law hadn't changed regarding health insurance the people Davids is talking about might not have an insurance gap looming. 

Tom Wilkinson
Tom Wilkinson

Affordable health care is the worst law I have seen in my lifetime! That's a FACT Jack!

Arlene Victor
Arlene Victor

They will walk a mile (hopefully more) in many others moccasins. Serves them right.

Robb Milkey
Robb Milkey

the sky is falling! the sky is falling!

Alex Jarvis
Alex Jarvis

People keep misusing the word "Fact" and some people are going to die because of it, that is for sure! Probably not from MN sure...

Erich Morris
Erich Morris

Be nice to have some investigative journalism to supply facts and information to help people weed through the political rhetoric. ..and THINK FOR THEIR SELVES. ..

Woody McBride
Woody McBride

He looks like he's about to explode from obesity

Bill Stieger
Bill Stieger

It'll make hair grow on your palms. Boners will be impossible. The ghost of Gary Coleman will irritate you for the rest of your days.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez

He is the male Crazy Schelly. His family must be so proud.

Mike Worcester
Mike Worcester

Don't forget about the dogs and cats living together.

Ran Dazzle
Ran Dazzle

I can assure you plenty of people die everyday due to lack of affordable healthcare..

Ran Dazzle
Ran Dazzle

someone else who hasn't read the thing running their mouths trying to look smart..

Justin Irvine
Justin Irvine

No Insurance co's decide who gets high end treatments already so I am sure the Insurance co decides who lives and who dies...

David Lloyd
David Lloyd

Way ahead of ya with the flatulence part. Or maybe because the holidays... either way.

Cavan Farrell
Cavan Farrell

And they eat old people's medicine for fuel.

Michael Marshall
Michael Marshall

Oh here we go with the fear mongering again. What a joke!

Bob B Bopp
Bob B Bopp

Extremists always know more than you do.

Jody Pejka Scott-Olson
Jody Pejka Scott-Olson

They'll give our medical centers to Indian tribes...ban the bible in hospitals...

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez

The devolution of the Regressive Party continues. Fear mongering is all the have left. They have no ideas and nothing to offer. There are reasons why the Democratic Party controls the House, Senate and the Governors Mansion. There are reasons why the Regressive Party was kicked to the curb like COMMON ROADSIDE TRASH in teh last elections. 

Steve Dupuis
Steve Dupuis

Nothing will happen if you don't sign up right away. You have until March 31st and then you are assessed a penalty if you don't.

Daryl Stanton III
Daryl Stanton III

Everyone is going to be getting what I've been going through with the VA. good luck. I have knees that could get knee replacement surgery from my time in the army, but the VA won't touch me until I'm 40. I'm only 26.

Patrick Kane
Patrick Kane

Where do these morons come from? Who keeps electing them?

Justin Holmes
Justin Holmes

It's cute to see them finally interested in people lacking insurance.

Ana Singleton
Ana Singleton

Seriously though, what will happen to the people that do not /can not sign up for a new plan by Jan1st? Not trying to play Devil's Advocate, I'm actually curious about that and the article doesn't go there.

Tammy Belka
Tammy Belka

No, they die when their care is delayed as they're shuffled from doctor to doctor trying to find clinics that offer lower rates to the uninsured. Til they end up in the ER one night, and thanks to someone's bad day or overstaffing or who knows what they collapse and die. From (post mortem diagnosis) an asthma attack. No one in an advanced country should die from as asthma attack. And no one in an advanced country should spend almost two years being shuffled in a system and never get a proper diagnosis. This is the story of how I lost my best friend. RIP Sarah Abraham 4/29/1980 - 4/6/2010

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

Are you being serious or just joking around? More peo

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@ron.fresquez  And reasons why the state now has a surplus under Democratic rule and was deeply in the red under the Regressives. They are done in this state except for a few backward districts like Bachmann's 6th.

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

people so paralyzed by fear that they stop using their brains, that's who.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

A very legit question. Never apologize for NOT being a robot. It's the robots who should apologize.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

You're story is a sad one, but a necessary one. Spread the word sister. The free world needs more people like you.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

We use a central banking system. There is no such thing as an actual budget surplus.

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

@mingtran fortunately for you obamacare plans include mental health coverage so you can address your irrational fear of robots.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran And the point is that this will no longer happen under ObamaCare - people will be able to get good preventive care which will ultimately save billions for the taxpayers.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

I called you out because you're stupid, not because I'm republican.

You're not smart enough to realize there is no such thing as a surplus under a central banking system.

Ps- I'm glad people can marry who they want.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran Jeez, you're a moron - the state is doing so much better in so many ways since the Regressives were booted out of office - pull your head out of your ass and look at the numbers. Also, Minnesotans were smart enough to vote down both of your Regressive policies on Voter ID and gay marriage. Again Ming - you lose. Hahahahahhaaha - do yourself a favor and move to Alabama or Somalia where your ideas will be more readily accepted by the majority.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Wtf is Onan such a little pussy for?

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

I am concerned and know far more about 9-11 than you do, I speak out against both lies. You are not concerned because you give your homeys special treatment. Hold people to the same standards or you're a biggot.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran If you're so concerned with presidential "lies" -  what about the one that killed thousands of American soldiers, maimed tens of thousands more for life, and added trillions to the national debt. Can you guess what that was? (Hint - it wasn't Bill Clinton's BJ.)

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

She asked a legitimate question because Obama lied to her, and everyone, and said users wouldn't lose coverage. The supreme court clearly isn't real, why are you such a wuss?

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

@mingtran I have federal law on my side, whereas you have your nonsensical rantings.  I think the smart people in the room know who is lacking substance.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Funny, but no substance. Come back when you have both

Onan
Onan

@MNjoe   - "Keep pissing into the wind and see where it gets you."

Ming already has wet shoes.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran And you are a right-wing asshole who gets his talking points from Fox News. Guess what - you lost - Obama won twice and was backed up by the Supreme Court. It's the law of the land and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it but whine like a baby. Again, you lose - so hopefully, ObamaCare will someday help you with the ulcer you are developing. Hahahaha -  fuck you Ming. Keep pissing into the wind and see where it gets you.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

You are a cartoon and will say anything. You have no precedent to back you up, just talking points from the left, all of which have been proven wrong by economists. Lie to yourself if you want.

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