Former GOP Congressman Vin Weber says Republicans are dumb and getting dumber

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Weber, a GOP strategist, said "the most educated people who used to be Republicans are now Democrats."
Vin Weber served as a Republican Congressman from Minnesota from 1981 to 1993. Since retiring from Congress, he was one of Mitt Romney's senior foreign policy advisers during his 2012 presidential run and still works as a D.C.-based GOP strategist.

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So suffice it to say it's a bit surprising to see him say that  Republicans, in general, are dumb and not getting any smarter.

Weber made that head-scratching comment in an NPR report about the "partisan evolution gap." The gist is that a new survey shows less and less Republicans believe in evolution even though more than two-thirds of adults between the ages of 18 and 29 now do.

Furthermore, the research "shows that the evolution belief gap between Republicans and Democrats has since 2009 grown from 10 percentage points to 24 points," to use the words of NPR's Liz Holloran.

Weber was asked to weigh in on those findings. He said he would "resist characterizing this as evidence of a war on science, which I think is BS," and then offered up this nugget:
"I suspect this is a reflection of a trend we've seen, where the most educated people who used to be Republicans are now Democrats, and people with less educational status are now moving into the Republican Party," Weber says.

"Added to that is a realignment along religious lines, with the most religious lining up with the GOP," he said.
If there's anything to what Weber is saying, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that so many Republicans are able to put their brains on sleep mode and still take this person seriously.

h/t -- Robert Moffitt

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ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

Former GOP Congressman Vin Weber says Republicans are dumb and getting dumber = Master of the obvious.

Patrick Sullivan
Patrick Sullivan

From the state that brought you Jesse "every thing is a conspiracy" Ventura and Stewart Smalley

senatortombstone
senatortombstone

The GOP leadership is masochistic. How else can one explain their affinity for failure. I say this as a former republican who has abandoned all forms of political involvement, save for ranting on the internet. The GOP is more inept and incompetent than they are unintelligent. As for whether rank and file republicans are less or more intelligent than rank and file democrats, there is no way of knowing for certain. With well over one hundred million on each side, the whole spectrum of intelligence is doubtlessly well represented on both sides. It might be that more educated people tend to be democrats, but educational attainment alone is not necessarily a sign of great intelligence. Even if it were, this advantage is offset by the large number of black (average IQ: 85) and Latino voters (average IQ: 90) within the Democrats' ranks. While I might concede that the average IQ of white democrats is slightly higher than the average IQ of white republicans, the near white (average IQ: 100) totality of republican ranks is enough to probably raise the average republican IQ above the average democrat IQ. Bottomline, evolution aside, republicans, on average, are smarter than democrats, and given the GOP's dismal track record on recruiting black and Latino voters, they will likely remain smarter than democrats. Small comfort that will be, though when they flop this year and in 2016....

Julian Pennington
Julian Pennington

I think the idea of voting to allow such a small group of people to control the vast majority shows that our society as a whole is rather unintelligent. Opinions are however just the thoughts of one individual and not fact, just like Vin Weber's statement.

Joseph Tieman
Joseph Tieman

His comments about "evolution" are a bit ignorant. Many scientists are saying Darwin's theories were way too general and not "complete", as in "we're still learning". I disagree with his assessment of Republicans by a whole bunch. There's lots of good minds there.

Dustin Roadway
Dustin Roadway

This is PSYOP propaganda. Make everyone hate republicans so Hilary will be a shoo in. She is a card holding member of the power elite. She will finish what they started.

Cole Randall
Cole Randall

Sarah... "hole HEATedly" ? lol... And besides, the dude said he wasn't a democrat. WOW! No roasting happening here at all... except for of thy self. Hehe

Jeff Salmon
Jeff Salmon

Bottom line is that BOTH sides are trying to find their way today

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

A former democrat congressman SHOULD say "democrats are dumb and getting dumber, independents are the smartest because they at least pretend not to believe in dogmas."

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

Don't forget the queen of all that is nutso, Michelle Bachmann.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@senatortombstone Here is a perfect example of why Republicans have become the party of stupid people.   Racist idiots like the senator here are typical of the modern Republican voter.   Normal people start to read this until they realize its just more stupid racism from a Republican coward.  Normal people realize that only the dumbest people in all of society believes your skin color gives you magic powers.   

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

The majority of Republicans do not believe in evolution, PERIOD! There are no credible scientists saying that Evolution doesn't happen.

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

The only problem with the Democratic party finding its way is the influx of Republicans trying to take the party further to the right.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

BOTH sides are trying to find their way today. I don't think so. As Bobby Jindal would say" The Republican Party is now known as the Stupid Party."

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

@mingtran Excuse me, but what is a "former democrat congressmen? And why should this former democrat congressman say something that is not true? As for independents being the smartest well smart people who are truly smart don't go around claiming they are the smartest.

senatortombstone
senatortombstone

LOL! By liberal standards, I might be a racist (not that I care, as liberals are typically anti-white, which is the worst form of racism); however, I have had my IQ gauged and it is on the right-side of bell curve, and that places me safely out of ranges of low intelligence for which the designations of idiot, imbecile, and moron were made. The premise of this article and these comments, implicitly and explicitly, is that republicans are dumb and democrats are smart. Based on the demographic makeup of both groups, it about as much of fact as can be that, on average, republicans are more intelligent than democrats. I never stated that skin color gives one magic powers, but one hundred years of intelligence testing proves that, on average, whites are more intelligent than blacks, Amerindians, equatorial peoples, Latinos, etc. For the record, on average, northeast Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are more intelligent than whites. Jews make up 1/2000th of the human population and 1/4th of Nobel prize winners in the sciences. They do this inspite of the Holocaust, jihad, and 2000 years of vicious, genocidal pogroms. They don't use their tragic history of overwhelming adversity to excuse uncivilized violence and failure like another demographic that shall go unnamed.

How so egalitarian fantasies and delusions explain that? They can't, which is why you must denounce and demonize the truth tellers.

And once more, for the record: I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN! Republicans are not racist, they do everything they can to attract minorities, at the expense of their loyal white base. How else can one explain the appointments Michael Steele and Reince Preibus, when there were many times more qualified white candidates to choose from? The republicans could take back the White House, if they focused their efforts on consolidating the white vote. There is nothing wrong with this, as democrats have consolidated close to 90 percent of the non-white vote.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Stop playin. You don't work, nobody would hire you. And "working" at Goodwill or Salvation Army doesn't count.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

I would get your whole paycheck then. I WOULD say that your mom's pussy is digital too, but I'm not an ignorant asshole so I won't.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran ARE YOUR PARENTS NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER OR ARE THEY ESL?


one does not " speak philosophy " thats broken engrish


again, my family has been speaking English for centuries...thats HUNDREDS OF YEARS


I would wager my paycheck that you are the 1st in your family to speak english

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Yes. You are an "english" (lower case "e") teacher, huh?

Dude. How much more proof that you're an ignorant asshole do you need?

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran i am an english teacher compared to you. 


why not admit that your parents speak poor english and therefore you probably dont have the same grasp of the language as people whose parents speak fluent and proper englsh

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Again, you're name is digital protocol. You must have been spawned by some sort of robot pussy.

Ask an English teacher if mine is acceptably used. You'll lose though, just like always.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran again, your name is mingtran


i would put money that your parents are not native english speakers. stop trying to compete with me about stupid grammatical nonsense. I AM 110% correct and every native english speaker knows it MINGTRAN

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

"Blasphemy" is a noun as well. Yet people speak "philosophy" and "blasphemy" all the time :)

I love you digitalprotocol. You're my best fan

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran philosophy is a noun ( a thing), so you cant speak it


you can speak philosophically, if you had any idea how to do so


oh ya society has been regressing,  REAL PERCEPTIVE- soon we will be living in caves, right?


that dude was right...EVERYTHING you post is INACCURATE, WRONG, DUMB


go the fook to sleep

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

"Speak philosophy" is most definitely correct as well. Go back to elementary English class.

If you look at my history, i don't really speak favorably of repubs on this site but i do speak out against dems because there are so many ignorant asshole left leaners on here like yourself that think only repub shit stinks, not their own. I tell all ignorant asshole democrats on here "remember, I'm more socially liberal than you are." They never have a comeback for that one.

Progression is not unavoidable in a controlled system. We've been regressing for years. We still haven't paid back loans from WW1, lol.

You can't even be right on the right side of the street. You humor me though, I could bust you up all day.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran ** speak philosophically** is what you ought to have wrote, as it would be correct. 

shame shame

if you reject the two party system, why are you always defending the GOP and making stupid comments about progression?  Progression is unavoidable, the OLD FUCK GOP DICKHEADS are stuck in the past and fearful of the future


go the fuck to sleep, you're all kinds of wrong



mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

"You guys"? Because so many people who think independently and reject the two party sytem are religious zealots, right? You've never been right about anything and everytime you speak philosophy you sound like a kid with a learning disability. Go on, please...

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran no, the most recent national poll about evolution really fucked you guys. now we know you are dumb

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Yes. I'm wrong. Because ALL the smartest people believe in dogmas. Thanks Digi

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

That was an awesome one Lil Ronnie. Very objective and full of wit I might add.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Well, obviously.

You do know it's horrifyingly easy to go back and look at what I wrote, right? Even you can, because unlike your pussy ass, my profile isn't set to private.

Why even try? You're at least 0-627 against me.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@mingtran Ming is obviously the smartest guy who posts here.  Just the other day he was talking about how he's terrified of doctors because they are an oppressive force in the world.  Tell the nice people about your fear of doctors ming. 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

It was a hypothetical situation. No specific person was referenced or intended to be referenced.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

@mingtran  Due to the fact that I am not an independent (which makes me less intelligent than an independent) I need further clarification, By you definition a former democrat congressman was a democrat in the legislature that isn't anymore. Al Franken and Amy K were never in the legislature so by your definition they don't qualify as a "democrat congressmen." So much for your post about intelligence and independents. That was easy too.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Your name is digitalprotocol. You were born on the internet, right?

Any time you respond back to me, not only do I have an awesome time putting your stupid comment to shame with reasoning and humor, but you're stupid comments make everyone realize how dumb you are. Basically, every time you respond to me, I win twice :)

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Ha ha. Culture is killing you

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@mingtran dude your fucking name is mingtran ... i am born and raised in MN, my speech and rhetoric are flawless


my ancestors have been speaking and writing english for centuries


fook off

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Freakin moron: there is no such thing as a "democratic", but there is such thing as a "democrat". See, "democrat" is singular. "Republican" is both plural and singular.

Way to know the language you speak, and way to follow the philosophy you espouse. Culture is killing your brain, little one.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

"what is a former democrat congressman?", you ask: someone who was a democrat in the legislature that isn't anymore. That was easy.

"Why should this former democrat congressman say something that isn't true?": unless this person is a third partier running as a democrat so as to achieve greater recognition and financial advantage (like Ron Paul did, only as a repub), anyone who recognizes themself as a dem or repub believes in dogmas. There are no dogmas in the most intelligent. That was easy too.

senatortombstone
senatortombstone

LOL! This is an Internet forum. Nothing can be proven in any meaningful sense of the word. The earth is round, water is wet, and matter is made up of mostly empty space. Three neutral facts that most no one would dispute, and yet there is no way for me to prove it by posting here. One century of intelligence testing validates my statements, almost as much as the ad hominem attacks I receive for repeating them....

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

Drewey: you need to come up with something better than "fox news watcher". You use that on anyone who disagrees with you, just like all the other dogmatic people on here. You are a super pussy, barely above the likes of CP's favorite biggot, MB.

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

Buy a dictionary or get an app or phone a friend or whatever, just learn the difference between fact and opinion. You have presented many opinions here as though they are fact, you even used some numbers. What you failed to do was show proof. So while most of us understood that this article was about a mans opinion, you chose to take it as an opportunity to school us on your inaccurate and small minded view if the world...look up irony while your at it.

senatortombstone
senatortombstone

LOL! Call me any names you like. What care I about the opinions of those who close their eyes and cover their eyes, to hide from the truth.

And just because republicans are smarter, ON AVERAGE, than democrats, does not mean that even intelligent republicans (and any politician) don't do stupid and politically suicidal things. Elections don't go to the brightest on the ballot, but to the most convincing. And sometimes lies are more convincing than the truth....

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@senatortombstone Civilized people don't take racist liars seriously.    Only the dumbest person on Earth thinks IQ tests are why one party is smarter or dumber than the other.   Republicans are obviously the party of stupid because they are the party of Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, and a million other obvious examples of stupid elected officials.    You would realize this if you weren't some stupid brainwashed Fox News bobblehead.  

senatortombstone
senatortombstone

I am not a republican. Can you name one republican politician or FOX News pundit who would say that they agree with my positions? They would denounce me faster than you do. Republicans pathetically pander for the non-white vote. This is why I am no longer a republican. There is nothing shameful or dishonorable in this. Blacks vote for their interests. Latinos vote for their interests. I am white; I will either vote for my peoples' interests or not at all.

Are you in denial of 100 years of intelligence testing? The premise of this post is that republicans are stupid and democrats are smart. I simply pointed out that based on group demographics, republicans are, on average, more intelligent than democrats. Why is it okay for you and yours to say that 100+ million republicans are stupid? Is that not offensive? Why then is it bad for me to state that based on group demographics, it is impossible for the average democrat to be more intelligent than the average republican? Why is your "hate" okay, but mine not?

Stop calling me names and answer my questions.

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

@senatortombstone  So, you're NOT A REPUBLICAN.  Then may I ask what someone who denies being a republican yet spouts nothing but bullshit from the fox news talking points with a couple vastly more bigoted gems thrown in for good measure calls themselves?  Is this the kind of stuff that works in your social circle?  You need to get out more and do less basement theorizing.  

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