Rogers school's suspension of Reid Sagehorn for Twitter joke sparks #FreeReid movement

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Reid Sagehorn picture via Jacki V. Seniors
:::: UPDATE :::: Reid Sagehorn won't be charged for tweet about kissing a teacher

Asked on Twitter about a rumor he'd been seen making out with a teacher, Rogers High School senior Reid Sagehorn jokingly replied with something to the effect of, "Actually, yes."

SEE ALSO: Shakopee athlete sues school for suspension over "im boutta drill my 'teammates'" tweet

Sagehorn's now-deleted tweet wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but Rogers and Elk River Area Schools officials didn't kid around with their response when they learned about it. Sagehorn -- an honors student, captain of the football and basketball teams, and a baseball player -- ended up being suspended for more than two months, until April 22.

Officials have so far been tight-lipped about why they thought it appropriate to suspend Sagehorn for so long, and voicemails left with the Rogers High School principal and the district superintendent hadn't been returned as this was published. But news of Sagehorn's suspension sparked a #FreeReid movement on Twitter, and an online petition entitled "Immediately restore the enrollment of Reid Sagehorn" has been signed by more than 3,000 people as of this morning.

Here's a sampling of some of the #FreeReid tweets:

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During the Senior Night basketball game on Friday, Rogers students honored their banished team captain by wearing black shirts adorned with Reid's jersey number (3). According to the aforementioned petition, boys players wore #freereid on their shoes, and girls players wore the same hashtag on their shirts:

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As the petition explains, the situation should get more interesting tomorrow night.

"The damage that has already been done by Reid's punishment cannot be taken back, but you can help prevent any further harm to Reid's present and future," it says. "All are urged to attend the ISD 728 school board meeting on Tuesday, February 18 at Elk River High School Community Room 105, 7:00 PM."

We've reached out to Sagehorn himself for comment and will update if we hear back from him.

-- Follow Aaron Rupar on Twitter at @atrupar. Got a tip? Drop him a line at arupar@citypages.com.

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LET_FREEDOM_RING
LET_FREEDOM_RING

If it didn't happen at school or a school funded website, punishment should not be at school. And honestly...as far as I know libel and slander are civil actions, not criminal so the police shouldn't be involved either?  If kids need to learn about limits to freedom of speech let them learn through the courts when this teacher files a suit. Perhaps the teacher could suffer damages, perhaps they could even equal the damage this kid has already suffered due to this premature stupidity on the police and school's part? 

If you think that what the courts will do isn't enough call your congressman and suggest he/she support laws that change that, cause all this BS is just robbing our freedoms we are provided by the constitution. 

And honestly IMO any "Educator" commenting on this on a public forum when NONE of us has the ability to see the tweets or know what did or did not happen is doing something twice as stupid as what Reid is being accused of. Is part of "doing it all for the kids" supporting destroying this kids future for not realizing not everyone would recognize his sarcasm?  You should be the ones teaching to let things run their legal course, and then seek change in the appropriate manner( Like actually writing or calling your elected officials who can change things instead of coming online and trying to spread your lib-pinions and hate) 

Sad thing is this was all started by some do-gooder parent looking at a tweet feed they knew they wouldn't like anyway...Just looking for someone to bring down.

   And now Chelsea Rae has stretched it to "Molestation" What info do you have that we don't?  I bet if they had left the whole tweet up and we could all read the accused's words nobody would even be able to build a molehill out of them, much less a mountain. Now instead of all this kid's peers worrying about learning and their future they are worried about something that should have been handled in private and a complete conclusion made before any punishment was laid out.   Just another example of the "Doing this will ruin your life, and if it doesn't.... we'll ruin it for you" society we are turning into.

Lyndale1
Lyndale1

it's better he learns now before he gets slapped with a lawsuit down the line at his job.  

Chelsea Linafelter
Chelsea Linafelter

I think the length of his suspension is a bit extreme, but he made jokes about sexual molestation. He's a student and she was a teacher. They can't take false accusations lightly. Even "jokes". I doubt he's a bad kid. He made a bad choice, hopefully others learn from this in the future.

Doug Mulville
Doug Mulville

Yes, everyone listen to MR. Ketchup, obviously someone to take seriously!

Sandy Steinhagen
Sandy Steinhagen

Lol funny guy. Hey Doug Mulville would you call me an old fogey?? Sorry still laughing.

Joe Rider
Joe Rider

Sorry, still reactionary asshats. Always bend to the Authority, even if they are wrong. Great lkesson to be teaching a kid. You sound like an old fogey, all worried about social media. Back in the '50, it was comic books, then Rock and Roll with that Elvis guy, later the Beatles, then long hair, then video games, then... whatever...

Sandy Steinhagen
Sandy Steinhagen

apologize for making a snap decision and leaving what he said open to judgement.

Sandy Steinhagen
Sandy Steinhagen

it is different because he did it in writing, how clueless are you Jeff/ Let me guess you must live an Carver County? In this day cyber bullying and carp that gets said on FB and twitter comes back to school as rumors and fights all day long, if we as educators ignore or excuse this as "oh well he must have just been sarcastic" how does that help?

Sandy Steinhagen
Sandy Steinhagen

clearly you don't know jack shit about how school work and how careful they need to be with social media...until you do ..shut up

Sandy Steinhagen
Sandy Steinhagen

unless he said"yes actually(sarcastic here)" how in the hell do you expect admin or parents to "understand" that he was being sarcastic....haven't you ever met someone who spoke to you sarcastically and you just weren't sure if they meant it or not....tone does not translate.

Dave Westgard
Dave Westgard

This is the thought police. Please pull over.

Heinz Ketchup
Heinz Ketchup

So Doug should be suspended from your job because you post something on Facebook? Context is a son of bitch isn't it.

lfemrite
lfemrite

I know how much this Ask site has bullied and harmed students to a point of attempted suicide, and the school does nothing. This child had things said about him and he responded the only way he knew how to try to end it. This may have been the wrong approach but in no way calls for the excessive treatment he has received. A 5 day suspension is more than enough, anything more I see as bullying the child victim even more. Action should be taken towards that site not the child. I hope that the district realizes that keeping this course of action will only lead to everyone losing.

Nick Vikstrom
Nick Vikstrom

Teacher post that, gets fired. Student posts that, gets suspended.....case closed.

Tim Stang
Tim Stang

White kid gets in trouble... Better start a petition

Kat Rider
Kat Rider

What's most upsetting about this is the policing of our speech done through social media. There's the case of the boy in TX being jailed after an investigation turned up nothing : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/concussions-black-eyes-put-in-solitary-confinement-nude-for-days-tx-teen-jailed-for-facebook-comment-reportedly-suffering-behind-bars-on-suicide-watch/ . Context is everything, and yes, we DO need a sarcasm font, if not just to protect teenagers from the a-DOLTS in charge of them. If there's no evidence of any wrongdoing outside of an inflammatory comment made on facebook or twitter, a comment made by a KID... what are we doing? Welcome to 1984. The Thought Police are here in a way we never could have imagined and we invited them in.

selken
selken

Everyone has an opinion, which is exactly what our free speech allows.  All I ask is that before making a judgement consider this.  Either you are currently a teenager, or you were once were one.  Do you remember ever doing or saying something without really thinking it through?  Of course you did and grown adults still make these very same mistakes daily.  This issue is about a 17 year old KID.  He was responding to a rumor/gossip that he did not start.  This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is popular and a successful student and athlete.  It just happened to happen to him.  Before you judge, take a good look at yourself or your children and consider how easily this could be you.  All the #freereid is asking is that proper perspective be given to his offense.  He has suffered enough and has already paid a price far graver than his actions deserved.  Let those that have never responded to a tweet, facebook, email, text, voicemail or snailmail cast the first stone.


Whitney Joan
Whitney Joan

Don't joke about stupid shit and you won't get in trouble. If he didn't do it he shouldn't have responded in such a way. I bet he looks cool to all his friends out there but student-teachers relations are a serious issue and he's not only gotten himself in trouble but also a teacher- which if he is innocent, what a ridiculous scandal he's now pulled a teacher into.

Joe Rider
Joe Rider

School officials are asshats on a power trip. Overreacted, now they are going to retrench into a circle jerk and not see how stupid they are!

Andrew Iverson
Andrew Iverson

This is the quote from the article, and since he deleted the tweet (never a good action, as it makes it seem like there is something hide) is: "Asked on Twitter about a rumor he'd been seen making out with a teacher, Rogers High School senior Reid Sagehorn jokingly replied with something to the effect of, "Actually, yes."" What in "Actually, yes" seems like sarcasm, or a denial? Since there is no way to read sarcasm (or his actual tweet that i'm aware of), that looks like a statement of fact. Child abuse (even if you don't think he's a child, he is under age i believe, and even if he is of age, teacher student relations are a big broach of conduct), is a serious issue. What if one of the less popular kids did the exact same thing? Would any of the people rallying to his defense do the same? I doubt it. I don't know how he reacted when he got in trouble, but the behavior of his supporters in this thread shows a lack of realizing that of all things to joke about, this isn't one of them. If he had shown remorse or empathy that essentially saying he made out with a teacher, and if his supporters weren't telling people who disagree with him to "drop dead", i might feel bad for him. As it is, his punishment isn't looking too severe to me.

Heather Fischer Pranke
Heather Fischer Pranke

If they suspended him for having relations of whatever kind with a teacher, then the teacher should be facing punishment as well. Has she been reprimanded? I've heard nothing about her. Sounds a little one sided.

Joe Peterson
Joe Peterson

That's the disconnect right there. I wouldn't react with a smart ass comment. For ME, I wouldn't respond that way. I would deny it. I think that's where all of the crazy comes in. There are different ways to react, I wouldn't react that way, you might, which is why you are so passionate about the subject. You can't see why people are taking it so serious, just a snyde remark to a stupid rumor. But in many cases, rumors (not this one) start because of some truth.

Nathan James-swap
Nathan James-swap

Finally, a fucking asshole jock gets nailed for being cocky and people are crying about it. Classic.

Reier Erickson
Reier Erickson

It's a pity that sarcasm doesn't translate through a keyboard... a costly lesson.

Angela Salzl
Angela Salzl

Uneducated idiot? Your clearly are speaking out of your ass again. Your so butt hurt that people disagree with you on this. You started off insulting everyone etc. etc..... So childish. I can't be insulted by someone with whom I can't have a debate without being called names in your immediate response. Is this really how you behave?

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

Uh, I would say thousands of poeple who have signed the petition and are outraged by this are NOT on the same page as you. NOT by a long shot.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

You are implying wrongdoing. There was none. No wrongdoing = no punishment.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

If he says "not true", then people think, "ooh, he's denying it." I thought the smartass comment was much better. Kind of like if someone says, "Angela, you are an uneducated idiot" and you respond by saying, "Yes, you got me."

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

He agreed cynically, much like you would say, "Oh yeah, they really turn me on" if someone posted a tweet saying, "Joe Peterson makes out with old ladies in nursing homes." The kid had no obligation to dignify the rumor with a serious response, so he answered cynically.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

Agree with Erin 100%. It is serious. That's why it's critical to thoroughly investigate any suggestions of impropriety. But investigating sometimes means admitting nothing happened.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

Apologize for what? For what bad choice? He replied cynically to a rumor, as anyone would. THat wasn't a bad choice, it was a common one.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

So you don't believe that this false rumor made him look bad, as well as the teacher? Clearly he didn't like the rumor because he replied to it in a cynical manner. So he has to pay a price because some unknown person started a rumor? Wow, love your logic.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

YOU NAILED IT! Kids make comments all the time. Why is this one spcecial? Because it was on Twitter? I didn't realize Twitter was the bible of all commentary.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

He's not the one who posted the original post, Gretch. Did you miss that?

Sarah Vagle
Sarah Vagle

Fake post or not, a student should NOT answer "yes" to a post like that. The admin does not think he actually did it, his response is extremely disrespectful and could be damaging to the teacher's career. The original poster is clearly also at fault and they deserve consequences as well, but this kid had a lot of other options than to respond to an UNTRUE post with "yes, actually." He deserves a consequence for being a smart alec. Two months is a little harsh, but I think the admin needs to make a point that behavior/comments like that will not and should not be tolerated. If a teacher had responded like that, they would lose their job.

Angela Salzl
Angela Salzl

If its something that could potentially lead people to believe its true...... Spoken, typed or written with piss in the snow then yes its still an issue. Surely not as big of an issue its turned into.

Joe Peterson
Joe Peterson

@ShellyShikany, WAY TOO FAR! Brining up something like that is plain cruel and you should be ashamed of yourself. But, I'm sure you are not.

Ryan Chandler
Ryan Chandler

I see several posts saying that students are warned about posting things on social media because there could be ramifications and that Reid knew that. So, I ponder this . . . . What if this had happened in the crowded gym at one of his games, not on social media? What if someone at the game had yelled, "Hey Reid, was it fun making with with Miss Jones?" and Reid had turned and responded, "Oh yeah, just fabulous" while laughing and shaking his head. Let's assume some parents heard it and called the school administration to tell them. Would we will be having this conversation? Because I"m pretty sure a kid has the right to answer a comment that his thrown his way without worrying about recourse from the school administration. What if he had been walking in a hallway and someone yelled, "Hey Sagehorn, Miss Jones said you were the hottest guy she ever made out with!" and Reid yelled back, "Yeah, it was phenomenal!", would he have been suspended if the principal overheard it? The bottom line is there was no exchange between Reid and the teacher, nothing going on. Sure, it's bad news to joke about relations between a student and teacher, but isn't this kid allowed to make a lighthearted response to a ridiculous statement lobbed in his direction? Because he answered sarcastically, he's suspended for three months? Is this worse because it happened on the almighty twitter rather than being shouted at a game or in a hallway?

Ryan Chandler
Ryan Chandler

I don't see what he did wrong, Andrew. His sarcastic response equated to a denial. Not sure what else he could do. Ignore it? Okay. But did it really matter if he ignored it or not. Remember, he didn't post this and suddenly a thousand people were banging down Rogers High School's door demanding to know if he had made out with a teacher. One parent saw it and reported it and the administrators went nuts.

diediedie
diediedie

For fucks sake, die in a fire.  Molestation?  Let me guess, you've never spent a single minute outside acadamia, right?  Am I micro-agressing you now too? You do realize that making out in a hallway would be a VOLUNTARY FUCKING ACTION and involves nothing that would even indicate an unwanted sexual advance, right?  RIGHT?  You are the only one who should be suffering the consequences of saying something so stupid and dangerous.  The fuck is wrong with you?

LadyLuck
LadyLuck

@selken  Exactly what I feel.  I would have been kicked out of school in today's world umpteen times over for all the dumb, thoughtless, insensitive things I said!    I catch myself doing it now!   

Marcie
Marcie

How do you know the teacher is a "she"?

Evan
Evan

Agreed. Why does everyone forget about the teacher? It's not newsworthy?

lrbrockman
lrbrockman

Yes, if an administrator heard that, there would be police involvement and an investigation. 

Do you not get that?  ANY question of a teacher/student relationship is investigated.  Period.

I've taught 32 years and I've seen it happen.



Marcie
Marcie

Ryan, you are much too intelligent to be on this site!


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