Anti-Condi Rice U of M professor William Messing also opposes Obama

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University of Minnesota math professor William Messing is sponsoring a resolution calling upon the university to cancel Condolezza Rice's April 17 speech at the Humphrey School. It cites the role Rice played as George W. Bush's national security advisor "to mislead the American people about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the existence of links between al Qaeda and the Iraqi regime."

But lest you accuse him of simply picking on Republicans, Messing says he'd back a similar resolution if Barack Obama were scheduled to come to the U of M.

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"I can assure you that Messing would use exactly the same rationale, that [Obama] shouldn't be allowed to speak," Messing says.

Asked why, Messing first cited drone strikes.

"What I would say, with regard to Obama and the targeting of U.S. citizens and the death of the U.S. citizen as a result of a drone attack ordered by Obama or his agents in the military, is that it's completely unacceptable to me," Messing says.

Messing says he uses the same logic in opposing Rice and Obama -- both lied to the people. And he uses that line of thinking to distinguish between the Bush administration officials who pushed the Iraq war and Congress members who voted for it based on executive branch misinformation.

"Ninety-nine percent of the members of Congress were lied to by the Bush administration, by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et cetera," Messing says. "They were told Saddam Hussein can destroy the U.S. and they were told that Saddam Hussein works hand in hand with Al-Qaida."

"I did not support their actions at the time but I don't think it would be useful or meaningful to assign blame to them, just as it's completely obvious that the soldiers who fought in Iraq are not responsible for having gone there," Messing says. "They didn't slide over there on their own, they were sent by the U.S. government."

As for how Obama has misled the people, Messing cited the NSA.

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jjstarr964
jjstarr964

I had this idiot for an abstract algebra class.  This is the only non-humanities professor I've ever had that got political in class.  He actually told the class one day that he supports a "socialist overthrow" of the US gov't.  I'm not even being subjective when I say that this was also the worst professor I've ever had.  Absolutely terrible.  Hey Messing, you do realize that the university could apply your logic and rid of you for making your ultra left-wing statements don't you?  So why do you think that nobody else should have their freedom of speech?

Steve Nathe
Steve Nathe

Spend the $150K Rice would get for her speech on having the U of M research how and why hemp oil cures cancer. A much, much better investment!

Bob Taugner
Bob Taugner

You put it much better than I did Mr. Finton. Thank you.

Dave Finton
Dave Finton

I think you might be misinterpreting the role of academia. Ideas are open to be discussed, but not all of the are valid. That's not true by any stretch.

Dave Finton
Dave Finton

Heh. I happen to know Bill, too. I have a hard time reading this article without reading it in his voice :D

MikeMpls
MikeMpls

"Ninety-nine percent of the members of Congress were lied to by the Bush administration, by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etcetera," Messing says.


No, Ninety-nine percent of the members of Congress as well as the Bush administration were *MISLED* by the CIA that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. 

Bob Taugner
Bob Taugner

So it's not left vs. right political. It's still doesn't fit into the whole "all ideas are valid" philosophy that academia is supposed to have.

Jean Claude Cau
Jean Claude Cau

I wonder what his position was on Ahmadinejad speaking at Columbia?

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

From City Pages Minneapolis on Friday, "Rice's speaking fee is $150,000, all of which was raised privately from donor funds, a university official says."

Sandy Kelly
Sandy Kelly

Well, does he have an official University position of arbiter of morals or is he self-appointed? Jack-ass.

Jonathan David
Jonathan David

Is it free speech if a state-supported university pays $150,000.00 for a single speech? Just think how many students that much money could educate about the reality of income inequality.

Daren L. MN
Daren L. MN

I dislike Rice/Obama policy. I like free speech/listening to what those I disagree with have to say even more. #whowatchesthewatchmen

Alirox
Alirox

The CIA repeatedly informed the Bush Administration that there were no WMDs in Iraq. The Administration strong-armed those useless CIA twerps into staying on message.

swmnguy
swmnguy topcommenter

Yes, actually, he does.  The job is called "Professor."  Serving as an intellectual moral conscience is in fact part of the job.

MikeMpls
MikeMpls

You mean like the millions of Americans who lost their health insurance due to the ACA?

MikeMpls
MikeMpls

@Alirox  

Do you have any facts to back that up?


And even if you do, are you trying to tell me that the congress at the time who voted for this war (in particular, the democrats) just believed everything that the administration told them without doing any fact checking?I hardly doubt that. And if they did, it says more about the democrats in congress at the time than the administration. So basically you are saying that the democrats took the bait hook, line, and sinker? If that's the case, Hilary Clinton is really stupid, and should not run in 2016 if she is that gullible. 

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