MNGOP Rep. Garofalo savaged for tweet linking NBA players to street criminals [UPDATE]

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Garofalo: "Let's be honest, 70% of teams in NBA could fold tomorrow + nobody would notice a difference w/ possible exception of increase in streetcrime"
:::: UPDATE :::: Garofalo apologized for his tweet right around noon on Monday. Read his statement at the bottom of this post.

Rep. Pat Garofalo, R-Farmington, is getting blasted from one corner of the internet to the other for offering up an opinion about the NBA during last night's Timberwolves game that links the league's players to street criminals.

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Since nearly 80 percent of NBA players are black, many are interpreting Garofalo's quip as having a racist subtext.

Here's Garofalo's tweet: To give you a taste of how that was received, here are the first seven responses:

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Garofalo's tweet was also condemned by DFL Chairman Ken Martin: It should be noted Garofalo has long been an outspoken NBA basher. Here are some of his hot sports takes:

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As this is published, Garofalo hasn't deleted or apologized for the tweet. He and his legislative aide didn't immediately respond to our voicemail and an email seeking comment.

:::: UPDATE ::::

We still haven't heard back from Garofalo, but he did send this email to Deadspin:
Thanks for the email and for giving me a chance to respond. I was talking about the NBA's high arrest rate and that their punishment for positive drugs tests are weaker than other leagues. No intent beyond that. The culture among many pro athletes that they are above the law is the problem, not people like me pointing that problem out.
And he began his Monday with this tweet: Garofalo still hasn't apologized.

:::: UPDATE II ::::

Around noon Monday, Garofalo released a statement apologizing for his tweet. Here it is in its entirety:
"In the last 24 hours, I've had the opportunity to re-learn one of life's lessons: whenever any of us are offering opinions, it is best to refer to people as individuals as opposed to groups. Last night, I publicly commented on the NBA and I sincerely apologize to those who I unfairly categorized. The NBA has many examples of players and owners who are role models for our communities and for our country. Those individuals did not deserve that criticism and I apologize. In addition, it's been brought to my attention that I was mistaken and the NBA policy on drug enforcement is stronger than I previously believed. Again, I offer my sincere apologies for my comments."
-- Follow Aaron Rupar on Twitter at @atrupar. Got a tip? Drop him a line at arupar@citypages.com.

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Dan Smith
Dan Smith

Kelly Anderson, Internet tough guy.

UncleSi
UncleSi

I guess he won't be supporting the legalization of pot then, will he?

But hey, thanks for giving the perpetually offended liberals something else to gripe about and call racist.

Tanner Slade Olson
Tanner Slade Olson

I find all his other jokes about the nba funny. Who cares if he doesn't like the NBA, he doesn't have too!. But blowing him up and this will not change if he was racist nor can you prove he is. So why bother. There are more then just black dudes in the NBA. So In reality all hes said was he doesn't like the NBA or their work ethic and they would be stealing if not shooting hoops. Until he says something racist dont stir the fucking pot and assume every white person is racist towards blacks! Because not all of us are.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

I seriously question the accuracy of Garofalo's stats on arrests of NBA players being higher than other professional sports teams.

There are plenty of sports where athletes get into trouble.  There also seems to be a perception and a bias on the right, in Minnesota an beyond our state boundaries, that black men are more criminal than white men.

One doesn't have to listen to right wing radio very long to pick up that bias, or watch right wing cable, or for that matter to read the right wing print media and blogosphere.

So Garogalo bactracked; given his pattern of conduct after he originally doubled down, it really seems too little too late, more like someone who hates that he got caught, but is not sorry for what he actually did.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

people are stupid as fuck and dont realize what is and is not racism

Kelly Andersen
Kelly Andersen

Read the paper and watch the news, otherwise,just keep your head in the sand.figure it out for yourself,but obviously, that may be beyond your capabilities.

David Crain
David Crain

If 70% of the house of rep. Left would we notice?

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone are you actually saying that per capita, blacks create less crime than whites? Because if you are, you are just as racist as MB

yoopie93
yoopie93

@WhiteMatt   As soon as I saw this headline this morning, I knew it was just a matter of time before you weighed in with some asinine comment(s).  Seeing a story like this must be like Christmas morning for a racist troll like you, huh?  I imagine that you'll be getting a copy of Rep. Garofalo's tweet tattooed on yourself pretty soon.  You can probably fit it in somewhere between the lame Chinese character tattoo and the one of  the flaming cross.  Anyway, it hardly needs mentioning that this douche bag of a congressman didn't actually look up any crime statistics or find any sociological information to back up his assertions--he just made an idiotic generalization that has a very obvious racist undertone.  You know, just like every single mindless post you troll on this site.  So please, try to at least subtly contain your glee at finding a public figure who shares your small-minded sensibility.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@WhiteMatt @UncleSi   The liberals posted links to stories that backed up what we are saying.  All you have is racist insults.   You two losers are the absolute dumbest parts of society.  The world will be a better place when you dumb racists die. 

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@mingtran  Too stupid to debate again huh ming?   Too stupid to follow Dog Gone's point.   Such a stupid little racist child you are.  Pathetic.  

kurt124
kurt124 topcommenter

@MicheleBachmann Your Common Core Myopia is giving you some trouble again.   There goes the race card, when you have no facts and nothing but accusations.    Race card getting old.   The NBA has sucked since about when Jordan left.   Oh, in case your Myopia is getting in the way, he's black. 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone Damn you're a pussy. You just repeated yourself and still didn't specify how/why I'm wrong. The whole of your last comment should have simply been "you're wrong", because again that's all you said. Follow me lamb, I'll teach you much. 

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran You are wrong in that you neither understand what the so-called warrior gene is, or how it is expressed, and you draw a false conclusion from what little you do know.

I have neither the time or the interest in improving your education on the topic.  It is complex, and comments are not an adequate forum to do so.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

You don't say how I'm wrong, just that I'm wrong. You're wack as hell. And what is "minty?" Come back to get served anytime, it was fun.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran

I've been reading about the warrior gene for a long time.  Your assertion is inaccurate

Don't be an ass.

You do a very poor job, minty of understanding complex concepts, like epigenetics and the expression of genes. 

Sadly our pop science sources do a very poor job of conveying an understanding of the actual science of information like this, and instead promote a false but more sensationalized explanation.

You are wrong.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone There are many more sources out there, all saying that people of African descent are prone to making rash decisions more often than white or Latino people. This one really shows the most negative MAOA combo mostly found in African genes:   http://theunsilencedscience.blogspot.com/2012/12/scientists-rediscover-violence-gene.html. Awesome collective of sourced material in that one.The only debate is whether it's inherent or learned. Politics determines language used in each study. Your "Stanford piece" was written by a student for their final project. Again, don't be a bitch.

What does "you do a very poor ob minty of understanding complex concepts" mean? Stop losing dude.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran
You have demonstrated nothing of the kind.

All this data does not show what you claim.

If your only source for this is the Brown study and the yahoo link source, you are worse than clueless.

Which is pretty much what the Stanford piece demonstrates. 

Hmmmm Stanford.
Brown. Stanford.  Brown........  yeah, Stanford way more academically significant. 

You do a very poor ob minty of understanding complex concepts, research, or applying scientific research to actual examples.

Pretty much a total epic failure on your part.

You personify that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing -- and in your case a teeny tiny bit of almost-knowledge.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone  I've all ready demonstrated in this thread how you divide by race, don't beat a dead horse. Your blog post is all anyone needs to see.

The science is in the Brown study. The summation is in the yahoo link. It is sourced. Don't be a bitch.

All of this data shows that white and Latino men are prone to making less rash decisions than black and Chinese men. Thanks for backing me up.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran

mingtran  not at all.  I'm not the one dividing by race. I didn't create the stats on athletes or general population crime.

You clearly have no idea what the hell the warrior gene is either. (hint, it is not a single gene, there are multiple versions which function - or don't function - in different ways.

Clearly, you also do not understand epigenetics, which deals with when genes turn on and off, not just the genes themselves.  The timing (and sometimes frequency) can be as significant, or even more significant, than what genes you have or don't have.

What it does not show is that black men are more violent or more criminal than other groups of people.  Yahoo is not a definitive or reliable source for understanding this.(Sheesh)

Bring a game that doesn't involved a badly scribbled letter of the alphabet in crayon next time.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/born-into-debt/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15131284

http://biochem118.stanford.edu/Projects/2013%20Autumn/Kim.pdf

"Unfortunately, the “warrior gene” is at best a misunderstood scientific fantasy, and at worst an instance of postmodern hubris." 

THAT last pretty much sums up the epic failure of your limited understanding.  You prove that a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing (or just another definition of ignorance).


 

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

mingtran  not at all.  I'm not the one dividing by race. I didn't create the stats on athletes or general population crime.

You clearly have no idea what the hell the warrior gene is either. (hint, it is not a single gene, there are multiple versions which function - or don't function - in different ways.

Clearly, you also do not understand epigenetics, which deals with when genes turn on and off, not just the genes themselves.  The timing (and sometimes frequency) can be as significant, or even more significant, than what genes you have or don't have.

What it does not show is that black men are more violent or more criminal than other groups of people.  Yahoo is not a definitive or reliable source for understanding this.(Sheesh)

Bring a game that doesn't involved a badly scribbled letter of the alphabet in crayon next time.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/born-into-debt/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15131284

http://biochem118.stanford.edu/Projects/2013%20Autumn/Kim.pdf

"Unfortunately, the “warrior gene” is at best a misunderstood scientific fantasy, and at worst an instance of postmodern hubris." 

THAT last pretty much sums up the epic failure of your limited understanding.  You prove that a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing (or just another definition of ignorance).


 

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone Tsk, Tsk. You can't have it both ways. Out one corner of your mouth you're seperating and dividing by race. Out of the other, you say race is a made up thing. I mostly agree with the latter, however each group has their own uniqueness. People of African decent carry something every human carries, only in FAR greater concentration, called "the warrior gene". This study was done by Brown University. It shows methodology, but unfortunatley doesn't break down  and spell out the actual findings as it is probably too controversial for them to touch: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090121093343.htm  Here is one that sums up conclusion right away: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120607095821AAxgSWl    I have far greater knowledge than the average human on "controversial" or "conspirational" subject matter. Bring your A game next time.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran Mingtran, race is not defined in the census in a significant or meaningful way.  It perpetuates outdated and invalid categories, to which people - presumably - do their best to self-identify.

I would argue that what we know about the ancestry of people is better described by things like DNA that show their ethnic heritage, especially mitochondrial DNA, that can show what groups over the span of history contributed to the make up of who someone is.

When we look at the research done in the field of sociology, there are a range of factors which relate to someone behaving violently or breaking laws (those overlap).  Those factors that correlate to violent crime hold true regardless of ethnicity, genetic inheritance or what you are categorizing as race.

Change the distribution of who experiences those factors identified by sociology to different racial groups, and the outcome is largely the same.  The race of the people involved have pretty much nothing to do with crime or violence.

Therefore, the position you have taken as well as the assumptions made by Garofalo, whether you meant it to or not, are false - and make a seriously derogatory assumption about a group of people for absolutely no valid reason.

Better analysis of things like economic factors, education factors, etc. tend to hold true for people regardless of race for a lot of things.

Very few real differences - mostly related to predispositions to certain illnesses like Tay Sachs, which affects larger proportions of Ashkenazi Jews, but also French Canadians and Cajuns.

So, NO, there is nothing valid about claiming people of a certain race or mixtures of race are more violent or more criminal than other groups, and your data does not support it either.

Wrong data, and wrong conclusion.  Not fact, not good science, not clear and logical thinking.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone  trolls peddle falsehoods, I peddle truths. You are the troll, troll.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone but when YOU talk about race is it is reality... got it, tyrant.  What aren't the stats showing? 

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

mingtran, you seem to be the only dick head here.

I don't care if you have a nice one or not, you are a troll.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran Latinos are usually NOT counted only as white, but in any case race in the way you are using the concept is an arbitrary and artificial classification without value or validity.

So unless and until you get around that -- and you haven't - the stats you are providing don't show what you think they do.

And NO, black people are NOT far more prone to violent behavior than other groups - you're ridiculous.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone  PS- Latinos are counted as "white" in this data. Just say that black people are far more prone to violent behavior and be done with it, that's all i want.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone PEOPLE aren't "scientific" and can therefore not be measured as such,, so "Commission of crime" is virtually impossible to measure. Arrest rate is more scientific than conviction rate as blacks are prosecuted in drug crimes shamefully more than whites for the same offense.  White people will be arrested as often or nearly as often for violent offenses, so I'm only referring to violent crimes. Here you go: https://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0325.pdf  

Of course the left does that/believes in that. It's very easy to see scientifically and you're only lying to yourself. We have proof positive that they want to expand the system of oppression and that the implementation of more social programs has created net zero positive results for ANYONE, especially black people. In fact, the only positive news out for  the US black population as a whole for years, is that black home ownership is/was at an alltime high....and that was under  the latter days of your boy Bush 2! 

Now listen: I'm more socially liberal than you are, so you can't say I'm some tool of the right. I hate Bush and the two party system as well. It's just that there are way too many ignorant Obama dick riders on this blog not to bring them down a notch :) Have a nice one

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran @Dog Gonemingtran, if you have any evidence that people of a particular race or ethnicity commit more crimes than other demographics, please produce it.
However you will have to demonstrate that the difference is not one of disparate rates of arrest or conviction, but actually represent greater commissions of crime.

I don't think you can do that, but please feel free to try.  I've done what was necessary for the purposes of arguing Garofalo and other right wing nuts are mistaken.

And no the left does not state that rule bending is necessary, blah blah blah.

It is hard to see how I can be racist when I reject the definition of race as arbitrary and false.

I have not encountered any belief either on the left that black men are not intelligent, or not as intelligent as other groups.

You like to troll around, making shit up.  Shame on you - you lack substance, all you have is venom, which seems the essence of right wing ideology.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter


@Dog Gone Everyone is racist, you are just overtly racist. From your own blog: "If you listen even only occasionally to the messaging in the right wing bubble, the alternate reality to the real world that they choose to live in, there is a lot of racism and a lot of assumptions – or ‘sincerely held beliefs’ – that black me are more often criminals than other groups (with the possible addition of Hispanics), including those in sports. "   Provide data that says "black men don't commit more crime than whites", or at least more violent crimes than whites. If you lie to promote an agenda, in this case a racial one, you are overtly racist. Science backs me up and calls you racist too. 

Using your language but reversing the scenario: If you listen only occasionly to the left wing bubble, the alternate reality they choose to live in, there is a lot of racism and a lot of assumptions-or sincerely held beliefs-that black men are not as smart as white men. The left wing bubble states the only way for black men to get ahead is continually bend the rules, at the cost of white men, so black men have just enough to live like animals and ensure they have no upward mobility but always have a master to thank for the fact they let them live at all, forever loyal to master. Stockholm Syndrome at it's finest. Served.

Dog Gone
Dog Gone topcommenter

@mingtran @Dog Gone Actually if you follow the links to the original sources I quote, some of those do.

NOTHING I looked at - and I looked at more sources than the ones I quoted - demonstrated any indication that there was a higher percentage of athletes committing crimes in any racial or ethnic demographic.

But if you have something different, please share it -- after thorough fact checking of course.

And No, there is no valid or reasonable criteria by which you can claim I'm racist. But then, you are really a troll, not a serious commenter, so who cares?

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@Dog Gone @mingtran  the MB displays its overt racism in at least half its posts. After reviewing the link you provided to your  own blog, I can definitely say that you too are overtly racist.     Also, the data you provided does not show "crimes committed by pro athletes by race". So basically you provided data to the wrong question.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@Dog Gone @kurt124   Republicans are too stupid and racist to look at facts.  kurt didn't bother with my link.  I doubt he would bother with yours.  It might involve him having to admit he is wrong.   No one as stupid as this racist trash would ever do that.   What an embarrassment as a human being.  Just remember to vote DFL because of trash like this guy.  

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@kurt124  I like how all you have is insults and stupidity.  Don't bother to debunk the link I posted.  Don't bother to offer your own facts.    You are a worthless piece of shit racist idiot.   You are too stupid to debate.  Too stupid to contribute.  You are an embarrassment as a human being.  

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@WhiteMatt  You are a fucking nitwit racist who is wrong.   The facts prove otherwise.  I don't need to goggle shit.  I used common sense and linked to an article that is sourced and researched.   You are a stupid loser racist.  The world will be a better place when you are dead.   You are too fucking stupid to admit you are wrong.  Just like this racist idiot Republican.  

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@WhiteMatt   You and this racist idiot Republican think the NBA is filled with criminals.  It's filled with people that obey the law better than the average person.  You lose.  You lose badly.  Everyone that reads this will realize what a fucking idiot you are.  

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@WhiteMatt  Every single person the NBA makes money than you ever will matt.   Every single person in the NBA is better educated than you matt.   Every single person in the NBA has a hotter gf/wife/bf/husband than you ever will matt.   Every single person in the NBA is just a better more accomplished person than you matt.   Every single person in the NBA is better at basketball than you will be at anything in your entire worthless life.   You are a loser compared to the absolute worst player in the NBA matt.   Anyone who talks about their race and how its better than all other races is a boring stupid piece of shit who is so stupid and pathetic they have nothing of value to talk about except their race.  

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@WhiteMatt   Like all racist idiots you are too stupid to know anything about actual statistics.  It's not fair to compare the NBA to the population as a whole since the NBA consists entirely of men.  Women commit far fewer crimes than men.  That stupid sportswriter only sounds smart to people as stupid as you matt.   If you compare NBA players to other young men they get arrested far less.  Like all rich people do.  Nice trying you stupid racist asshole.   You know racist idiots are always ugly stupid examples of the race they are so proud of.   When you die matt, the world will be a better place.  You are so stupid you never change minds or win people over.  You are the absolute worse type of person.    





All normal readers please note none of the Republicans like cin or ming have any problem with racist idiots like matt.  They will yell and scream at any liberal who dares post but they love racist matt here.   What does people like Garofalo and ming tell you about Republicans?   Republicans are the KKK without the hoods.  

yoopie93
yoopie93

@WhiteMatt @yoopie93    That "hard work" you did in justifying your racism was infinitely more than Rep. Garofalo did before he sent his tweet--that's the point, genius.  He didn't put any thought to his comment.  He hates basketball, most likely because he buys into the bullshit that it's a "thug" sport, and that riles his the latent racism of his white bread upbringing.  That's also why he just did something that you're incapable of doing--he apologized for his being insensitive and crass with his generalization about an entire group of people.  Incidentally, the NHL is the sport where goons regularly go around "enforcing" their own set of rules by intentionally injuring opponents, and where outright fighting is an accepted practice.  So please take your crime statistics and burn them like you do so many crosses.


You're simply trying too hard to justify an asinine tweet.  Just because a person doesn't come out and brazenly use the n-word doesn't mean that they aren't harboring some deep-seeded hate and fear.  Every single comment you leave on this site is proof of that.  Every time you comment on a story that has anything to do with crime in Minneapolis (and conversely don't comment on any story about crime involving white people) it's more evidence that you're the worst kind of racist--the kind who hides behind the anonymity provided by the internet.  In other words, a troll.  Hell, at least Rep. Garofalo put his name to his idiocy.

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