Gov. Dayton has "concerns" about Senate's proposed e-cig ban

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This week, the Senate is expected to vote on a bill that would roll e-cigs into the "smoking" section of the Minnesota Clean Indoor Art Act, thereby banning vaping in indoor public places.

A companion bill in the House doesn't go as far, however. It'd prohibit vaping in public schools and sales to minors (in other words, "No Statutory Vape") but leave it up to business owners to decide whether to allow it in their establishments. (Read the Senate bill here and the House version here.)

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Bob Moffitt, director of media relations for the American Lung Association in Minnesota, argues a blanket ban of e-cigs is in the best interests of service industry workers.

"It's really difficult for a bartender in a crowded bar to judge whether that's an e-cig or is that the real thing in the back of the room," Moffitt tells us.

Moffitt also cited health concerns in making his case for an e-cig ban.

"The more we learn about e-cigs, the greater the level of concern about accidental poisonings," he says. "I think the easiest and fairest way to do it is to treat all types of smoking the same, both e-cigs and regular smoking."

But some legislators aren't as sure as Moffitt about the health implications of vaping.

"I have not seen the scientific data that says this is dangerous if you're simply in the same room as someone using an e-cigarette," said Rep. Will Morgan (D-Burnsville), according to a Star Tribune report. "I'm a physics teacher. I think we should rely on science for decisions like that."

We got in touch with Gov. Dayton's press secretary, Matt Swenson, and asked whether the governor prefers the House or Senate versions of the e-cig bill. He replied with this email:
Governor Dayton strongly supports the provision in Sen. Sheran's bill that would prohibit the sale of e-cigarettes to minors, helping keep these products out of the hands of children. The Governor has some concerns about other provisions within the bill, which would prohibit the use of e-cigarettes in indoor public places. However, if a clean bill - that pertains only to the matter of e-cigarettes - is passed by the Legislature, the Governor would not veto it.
In short, Dayton prefers the House version, which contains both of the provisions he specifically praises, but won't veto the Senate one if that's what emerges out of conference committee.

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JopySchmopy
JopySchmopy

And furthermore, Robert, you and other Democrats don't care about other people.  You care about yourselves and the daily demonstration of your moral and intellectual superiority.  Bleh.  

JopySchmopy
JopySchmopy

Nobody's going to blow their vapor in your face or any kid's face, Robert.  Try to relax and control your urge to beat up on your Party's latest whipping boy.  The last few years you've been busy destroying the health insurance "free rider" -- blaming him for high insurance and health care costs -- and now you're onto smokers who want to transition to something less noxious.  You're an angry control freak who seems to gain nourishment from beating up on people who aren't as good as you are.  

Robert Hilstrom
Robert Hilstrom

I don't want my kid breathing your nicotine. It is rude to blow that crap around kids let alone people who don't want it.

Robert Hilstrom
Robert Hilstrom

And we know that nicotine is not safe, it is highly addictive and was once used for pesticides...

Robert Hilstrom
Robert Hilstrom

Actually it is not required by law (until the new FDA rules) to tell you what is in them. If you want to inhale nicotine I have no problem with that. But I don't want to inhale your spent nicotine.

Jeff Skinner
Jeff Skinner

We do know what is in the vapor. Everyone just chooses to ignore the results from hundreds of studies performed. For the millionth time.. Propylene glycol (pg), vegetable glycol (vg), nicotine, flavoring. All deemed safe by the FDA.

Terri Taray
Terri Taray

He's"Concerned"???? Over a BANN on a product, nobody knows much ABOUT. ..BUT!!! HE hasn't, won't even CONSIDER a Medicsl marihuana bill...TO HELP PEOPLE WITH REAL DISEASES, AILMENTS, AND MAYBE. .the LAST BIT OF "COMFORT" A DYING PERSON WILL HAVE!! THIS GUYS SN IDIOT!!!!!

Sarah Conway
Sarah Conway

What ever happened to smoking in the bar section and non-smoking in the restaurant section? People are ferociously and emotionally attached to their biased science, biased politics and biased lifestyle. There is no middle ground. So maybe we should say fuck the smokers AND fuck the non-smokers and let the actual property/business owners make their own goddamn choices.

Chad Verville
Chad Verville

Funny, by the comments you can tell who the smokers are...ps, you smell, and you spend your money foolishly... You have the right to do both....so stay home and smoke it up

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

Or it could also be the fact that you can add other synthetic drugs to e-cigs and you can't to cigarettes? Whatever you smoke in your house or in the street is fine. But this is about public health in enclosed areas.

Cat Field
Cat Field

Lisa why dobt you get the fuck off my comment

Cat Field
Cat Field

My daughter is around it she's fine

Sharon D'Amico
Sharon D'Amico

I don't buy or use those products. I have a choice.

Sammy Lessin
Sammy Lessin

Too new Kitty Cat. I think they need a hell of a lot more testing before it's cool to do around my lit'lins!

Sharon D'Amico
Sharon D'Amico

It's only water vapor? There's no nicotine left? What are the flavorings made of? They would give me problems.

Jack Skagnetti
Jack Skagnetti

The dizzying part is that you think medical marijuana cures "2nd-hand smoke disease." Reefer addicts are seriously the dumbest people.

Vincent Hopwood
Vincent Hopwood

@ Amanda: first, you are comparing "outside", where the air actually moves and there is room to avoid smoking, to "inside", where none of those options apply. IMy point was that if they are going to ban cigarette smoking indoors, then the same standard use for this should use to ban e-cigs. Second, you may or may not be aware of this, but air pollution is an issue as well. Those are daily air quality forecasts you may have missed? They include more than pollen counts. As for implying that I can't say what I mean, that my problem is the chemical others might choose to put in their bodies, you are umping to an ignorant conclusion. I couldn't care less what people smoke; I just don't want to have to breathe it in myself

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

We live in a fucked up State represented by anti science dullards. As Rome burned Nero fiddled ! Dont they have anything else to do besides debate e- cigarettes?

Sandy Kelly
Sandy Kelly

I'm sure if you turn over a few leafs you will find the tobacco industry leading this effort.

Jonathan Freed
Jonathan Freed

So, Dayton resists medical jah, but is ok with harmful e-cigs that might require medical jah one day from 2nd-hand smoke disease. Dizzying.

Lisa Smith
Lisa Smith

I have allergies and asthma...I have no issues with anybodies pleasures....I just don't want to inhale them! ....and it's way more than water vapor in e-cigs....many solvents and carcinogens are in the liquid and vapor....

Lisa Smith
Lisa Smith

I seek to lower my exposure to things I can control, it lowers my risk for cancer etc.. of course I can't control everything...that is a silly statement Amanda! Do you seek out exposure to unknown things and radiation, etc because of what you fear in the sky?

Joshua Michael Erickson
Joshua Michael Erickson

What people dont realize is that the main ingredient in ecig liquid and vapor is an airborne sanitizer, and its been used in the food industry for yeaaars. The air inside of that vapor cloud is cleaner than the air around it, technically. And the nicotine is typically absorbed during the inhalation process. You're not gonna catch a buzz and become addicted to nicotine even if someone blows a big cloud of it in your face. The other part of many of your arguments that bothers me is your "its your addiction/vice, dont make it my problem" outlook. Given the fact that it is actually incredibly safe for the people around you, unlike secondhand smoke, and that addiction is technically considered a mental condition, you're discriminating against people with a mental condition that really doesn't affect you aside from maybe a whiff of a sweet scent. Bothersome really.

Amanda Rae
Amanda Rae

Have you looked up recently? What do you think is in those chemtrails they're spraying the sky with on a daily basis? They don't know the health risks of that either, but we're all being exposed to it anyway.

Amanda Rae
Amanda Rae

How do you people go outside? You're breathing far more toxic things and at much higher levels than someone exhaling a little bit of water vapor in your presence. Seems to me the problem here is the "pleasure-inducing" part.

Amanda Rae
Amanda Rae

I'm not a fan of breathing other people's nasty food smells at work. Ban it.

Bradley T. Smith
Bradley T. Smith

Patchouli makes me sick to my stomach, can we ban that too?

Kirk Burback
Kirk Burback

What about smoke machines for Halloween or a concert? Same substance.

Kirk Burback
Kirk Burback

When democrats reign, you get people telling you what you can and cannot do...oh wait, they don't do that...

Lisa Smith
Lisa Smith

....at least it doesn't have unknown chemicals from vaping in it!

Angie Traxler
Angie Traxler

Yes, because the air we breathe in is so clear and wonderful now.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Aren't there MN retail taxes on it already? 

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

If I have to fart, I'll go outside. Please do the same with your nasty habits. The rest of us don't want to breathe it in. Thank you. 

Dr_Zaiu5
Dr_Zaiu5

..."Reefer addicts"  lol!  You win the "dumb comment of the day" award.


axamate
axamate

you are inhaling everything from anybody that uses a medical inhaler.

just be cause you cant see it doesn't mean it isn't there.

Pinkens
Pinkens

I think you might want to google the word 'carcinogen'

gbaughma
gbaughma

Actually, slightly worse than vaping.  Vapor has food grade VG, whereas the fog machines don't.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

And when Republicans reign, we get thousands killed and $trillions spent on wars - and a crashing economy.  I'll take the Dems any day. 

axamate
axamate

@MNjoe  you get more nicotine by eating your vegetables.

axamate
axamate

@MNjoe @axamate  even though you would get way more nicotine by eating 2 ounces of potatoes you still think you are being harmed.we are not talking about smoke we are talking about vapor.you are looking at the wrong study.ecigs work on the same principal as medical inhalers.are inhalers poisoning you?

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@axamate @MNjoe   Even if that were true (which it's not), it'd be entering my system at a much slower rate than by smoking it. And I wouldn't be passing it around to others who happened to be near me. If this is the study you're referring to, I'd need to eat a half pound of some of these vegetables to equal what you'd get from 3 hours of exposure to second-hand smoke. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308053290619

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