Jake Zumberge posted about shotgun killings before dad allegedly shot neighbor with shotgun [UPDATE]

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Jacob Zumberge's mugshot
:::: UPDATE :::: This afternoon, Paula Zumberge was charged with the same counts of second-degree murder and attempted murder her husband faces. Paula's counts pertain to "aiding and abetting" rather than the murder itself, but the consequences are the same. A Ramsey County Jail official says she's not in custody as of 4:25 p.m. this afternoon.

:::: UPDATE 2 (May 9) :::: Paula Zumberge has been arrested and is due in court today. Here's her mugshot. (h/t: Chao Xiong)


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Original post -- When Neal Zumberge stormed out of his New Brighton basement with a 12-gauge shotgun and allegedly opened fire on his neighbors Monday evening, he was enraged because a police call they made landed his son in jail, authorities say.

Neal's son, Jake, was upset with his dad's neighbors -- Todd Stevens and his longtime girlfriend, Jennifer Cleven -- because they were in the habit of feeding deer in their yard, and his dad had come down with a case of Lyme disease Jake blamed on the presence of the animals. So when Jake ran into Stevens and Cleven at a Spring Lake Park VFW on April 29, things got heated.

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Neal Zumberge charged with murder for shooting neighbor over deer feeding dispute

A drunken Jake Zumberge approached Stevens and asked him to step outside for a conversation, according to a criminal complaint.

"Once outside, the defendant began to cry and yell, causing other bar patrons to ask him to leave," the complaint says. But a short time later, Zumberge reentered the bar.

"The defendant shoved [Stevens] in the back shoulder area, almost causing [him] to fall off his bar stool," the complaint continues. "The defendant then leaned in between [Stevens] and [Cleven] and told them that he was going to burn down their house and kill them... [Cleven] was afraid of the defendant and concerned he would act on his threats."

Stevens and Cleven called police to inform them of the incident, but Zumberge left the bar without being apprehended. So when they ran into him again Monday at Acapulco Restaurant in New Brighton, they called police, and Zumberge was arrested.

When Cleven returned home that night, she encountered a pissed off Paula Zumberge (Neal's wife and Jake's mother), who allegedly said, "You fucking bitch, you put my son in jail." Moments later Neal emerged out an egress basement window with his shotgun and opened fire while Paula yelled, "Shoot, shoot, shoot, keep shooting," according to the version of events put forward by prosecutors.

As of yesterday evening, Paula Zumberge still hadn't been charged with a crime. In fact, it's unclear if she's turned up at all following the shooting. A neighbor told authorities she saw Paula driving away from the scene, and New Brighton police never returned a message we left yesterday inquiring as to whether they know where she is.

But Neal Zumberge has been charged with both second-degree murder and second-degree attempted murder, and Jake has been charged with two felony counts of making terrorist threats and one count of fifth-degree assault.

Jake's Facebook page is public, and on February 16 he shared a post featuring a pro-gun newspaper clipping that uses a made-up story to make the point that guns don't kill people, people kill people. It's eerie in light of what his dad is accused to have actually done to his neighbors just a few months later.

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Christopher Rohling
Christopher Rohling

Drunken, White trash idiots, with guns are what make the NRA happy ......Weak minded individuals.

Dan Johnson
Dan Johnson

ya that kid is messed up too, he said he doesn't regret what his dad did, and that the stevens are "swamp people".

kezaezy
kezaezy

Folks, the issue isn't about the epidemiology of Lyme Disease. It's about the insistence by the NRA and it's right-wing minions that every Tom, Dickhead and Assshole be allowed to strap a gun to his double-wide thighs.

There's no such thing as the "responsible gun owner." There are just gun owners who haven't killed for maimed anyone yet. That's our species. That's how we are.

kezaezy
kezaezy

WatusiJenkins is just another reason to get guns out of the hands of sociopaths.

WatusiJenkins
WatusiJenkins

I notice if this were some nigger who shot another nigger, all of you faggot-ass Liberals would be silent. 

Kristina King
Kristina King

I hope I'm not coming off confrontational, just trying to be helpful. There is a great documentary called Under Our Skin (you can watch it free on YouTube) that has a lot if great info, especially for people with little ones.

Kristina King
Kristina King

New studies are showing that infection can be immediate. There is so much misinformation about Lyme, it's scary. It really is a frightening disease. That being said, I have Lyme, but I'm not going to shoot my neighbors for feeding deer...

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Republicans - they're all scum. It just a matter of degree.


Kelly Jo
Kelly Jo

Idiots, just utter idiots. Seeing this d-bag talk on the news a couple of nights ago made me puke in my mouth.

WalterMondale
WalterMondale

hope these white trash psychopaths get AIDS in prison

Bryan Darnell
Bryan Darnell

Just searched again to confirm it. The deer tick has to eat before it passes Lyme to a human. They don't eat until 24 to 36 hours AFTER they attach. Showers are a good time to check for ticks and any other anomalies...

Virginia Fleming Tschida
Virginia Fleming Tschida

I did not say the whole family I said this family as in the 3 that the press is discussing. The killer and his son and wife are not victims

Kristina King
Kristina King

Actually ticks are infectious as soon as they attach, and once they do, they don't just wash off. and some are smaller than a poppy seed. Ticks don't particularly care how much you shower.

Kristina King
Kristina King

Shaun, ticks travel and feed on deer, birds, mice, squirrel, etc. The more deer, the more ticks. That being said, I have Lyme, but I am not going to shoot anyone for feeding them.

Shawn Kuiper
Shawn Kuiper

In the old days we would have just used our fist to resolve this dispute someone would have gotten their axx kicked and everyone would have moved on.. Or someone would have moved all together... The 3 in this family sound like the family tree resembled a telephone pole..

David Quinn
David Quinn

The shooter had contracted Lymes disease, spread by deer ticks who like to live on deer, mice , and other small mammals. I don't agree with the way he handled the situation at all, but read about Lymes, and what happens if it's not caught early. That is why he wanted the victims to stop feeding deer. Sad that people can't sit down and work out their differences and that it went the way it did.

HillBillyBobby
HillBillyBobby

I think it would be funny to put deer feed all over their garden ha ha ha ha, the son comes home from jail to a garden full of deer!

Sam Adamsson
Sam Adamsson

Can't people work out their issues like normal human beings and quit acting like animals?! Stay classy, New Brighton. So sad.

Ellen Ritland
Ellen Ritland

You guys can all cast judgement Both sides played a part in the feud end egged each other in No one would just ignore the other person Unfortunately it ended in tragedy

Jessica Wohlwend
Jessica Wohlwend

Yeah but that doesn't mean the whole family needs to be punished.

Ryan Jenquin
Ryan Jenquin

Virginia Fleming Tschida.... you are a brave person, to say Jessica Wohlwend has no respect for human life. Do you even know anything about her? She is a college friend of mine, I haven't know her for more than a couple years but I know she probably has more respect for human life than anyone I know.

Tom Germscheid
Tom Germscheid

The apple did not fall far from the tree. How can three people all be that stupid?

Tucker Benjamin
Tucker Benjamin

I revise that, your point of view is entirely impoverished of any sense of humanity or grasp of ethics.

Tucker Benjamin
Tucker Benjamin

^TL;DR. Still rings like justification. You advance a poor argument.

Jeff Gardner
Jeff Gardner

Of course he didn't deserve to be killed. Nobody is making the suspect to be the victim. However, the victims knew the suspect was psychologically unhinged over this deer feeding dispute. They knew that if they continued to feed the deer, the suspect was going to grow more and more upset and more and more mentally unstable. He was going crazy and crazy people don't understand that they are wrong. They think they are right. So, what options did the victims have? Call the cops? Not much the cops can do. Hire a security guard? That's expensive. No, they chose to keep feeding the deer, knowing that as it continued, their neighbor just grew more and more nuts. Then, when the neighbor's son confronted them about continuing to feed the deer, they ended up getting him arrested for terroristic threats, which further escalated the rage and craziness of the Zumberges. Well, you got the son arrested, but one of you is dead and the other shot. You lost. You stood by your right to feed deer and you lost because your opponent was nuts and killed you. DId they ever consider just swallowing their pride and telling the Zumberges, 'We are sorry that our feeding the deer has caused problems for you and caused you to be upset with us.

Virginia Fleming Tschida
Virginia Fleming Tschida

Feeding deer is legal. They did nothing to deserve to be killed. Nothing.. We continue to make the suspect the victim. A man killed another man. It is that simple. He did not deserve to be killed.

aellis89
aellis89

@kezaezy if there were no guns it would be a knife, a baseball bat, a bow and arrow it doesn't matter

hopjeremy
hopjeremy

@kezaezy I know so many gun owners--ages 18 through 60.... NONE OF THEM EVER, even a little bit...EVER shot at anyone, ever.   You people are so quick to blame guns.  Don't be afraid of what you do not understand. --I am not a gun owner but retain my constitutional right to own one if I so choose.

WatusiJenkins
WatusiJenkins

Yeah. New Brighton should stay as classy as North Minneapolis.

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

These folks knew each other for a very long time. The guy who died grew up in the house next to the one they lived in now. The son was their son's best friend growing up, they took him on family outings. Sure after the fact you can blame them for not bowing down to the wishes of the neighbor, but its very likely their long history together had something to do with them not "swallowing their pride."


Also there is no evidence that their feeding the deer actually did "cause them problems." Just because they thought that doesn't make it so. Two people in my family and a few friends have contracted Lyme's. Feeding deer had nothing to do with it. It makes more sense to blame it on global warming. Our warmer winters are not killing off the ticks like they used to.

HillBillyBobby
HillBillyBobby

So because of crazy people we shouldn't live our lives as law abiding people?  That is crazy.  The fact is the son, mother and father need to be punished.  the arguement can be turned around - why did these folks not move house if they didn't like the deer?

freeroamingtim
freeroamingtim

I don't think there was any way that the suspects would have stopped, regardless of the state of the deer feeder. As you can read, they were all a bit off and it was only a matter of time before they hurt someone or each other. Besides, the victims did what they should, which is report a terroristic threat. I imagine these folks should have been dealt with long ago, thus just happened to be the time that they escalated beyond threats.

kezaezy
kezaezy

It does matter. If it didn't, soldiers would be armed with toasters and croquet mallets. A lot cheaper.

Bindibop
Bindibop

Yup. I've heard that one... and don't believe it.

kezaezy
kezaezy

You just made my point.

We need to get past the "responsible gun owner" trope.

Chris Rock said, "Men don't have platonic friends, okay? We just have women we haven't fucked yet."

Expanding on that idiom, there's no such thing as responsible gun owners. Just gun owners who haven't snapped yet.

You may never snap, hopjeremy. I'll even go so far as to say most gun owners will never snap. Okay? But the more guns out there, the more 'snapping.' The more snapping, the more gun deaths. The numbers will only increase.

Fuck being a 'responsible gun owner.' Be a responsible human being.

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

@WatusiJenkins Why only 10 years? People just don't leave cushy government jobs like that. Let me guess, you were "injured" on the job and now you sit around waiting for that government disability check to arrive the first of every month.

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@WatusiJenkins  Most people in North Minneapolis are hard working people raising and supporting their families - just like anywhere else. Like a lot of places, it's a small number of assholes who ruin it for everyone else. You should understand that - it's people like you that you give us hard working white folks a bad name. 

henk.tobias0
henk.tobias0 topcommenter

@WatusiJenkins All race all the time. Is your sickness learned or inherited? I guess that's a question for your therapist.

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

@ChazDanger @hopjeremy @kezaezy what is a stolen gun? 


you can buy a gun from a private citizen and it never gets registered. 


the only illegal gun is one with serial numbers scratched...you guys dont know shit

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

@hopjeremy @kezaezyBut if you get caught with a stolen gun you go to jail for a long time.  That is part of the justice system on reducing unregistered guns in the hands of criminals.

kezaezy
kezaezy

You mean the city of Chicago? In the state of Illinois? In the United States of Assault Weapons?

The genie, as they say, is already out of the bottle here. I have little hope that we'll wrangle it back into the bottle within my lifetime.

If you to want conduct an honest comparative analysis, you need to look at places that never uncorked the bottle in the first place.

"...the US has 88 guns per 100 people and 10 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people -- more than any of the other 27 developed countries [researchers] studied.

Japan, on the other hand, has only .6 guns per 100 people and .06 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people, making it the country with both the fewest guns per capita and the fewest gun-related deaths." --abc News, 9/19/13

Oh, and please don't go robbing banks...neither in a your car nor a stolen car.

hopjeremy
hopjeremy

@kezaezy Go visit Chicago and see how the ban on guns has helped with gun related crimes.  There is no getting through to those who are firm on their beliefs.... Yours and mine alike.  One thing to request: Don't lump everyone into crazy---I think the quiet ones without a gun (permit) will end up stealing one and go gunning down people than one who legally owns it..... Think about that... I'd rather rob a bank with a stolen car than use mine as the plates won't trace back to me....same with legal gun owners.

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