Anti-LRT protest planned for Green Line's opening day

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Michael Hicks
$957 million later, the first passenger-carrying Green Line trains will roll past the Weisman tomorrow.
:::: UPDATE :::: Anti-LRT protest on Green Line's opening day was a bust

Steve Ellenwood, a Woodbury resident who describes himself as "very active" in Republican politics, is organizing an anti-LRT protest planned to take place during the Green Line's opening day tomorrow.

"We're just a group of people that are very, very concerned about the financial commitment we've subjected future generations to," Ellenwood tells us. "When you listen to proponents of this, you keep hearing them say [LRT] is going to cut congestion, which is a bunch of BS. That's already proven not to be true."

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"There's no density and there's no demand," Ellenwood continues. "There's a duplication of service. There's no business case and that's proven because of the subsidies that have to be put in."

Ellenwood says he hopes up to 200 people will turn out for his protest, which he's organizing via texting and Facebook. The plan is for protesters to walk around Green Line stops with anti-LRT signs.

Though the specific messaging is still in the works, Ellenwood says the theme will be that "there's no reason to be building this with the transit system we have."

"The money that we're spending is just phenomenal, and that's what concerning," Ellenwood continues. "If you choose to live on a bus line it's pretty functional to get where you need to go, so why are we having to put billions of dollars into something that's duplicating that service while our roads and bridges are collapsing?"

We brought Ellenwood's concerns to Metro Transit spokesman John Siqueland.

"Like public education or public safety, public transit does not exist to turn a profit," Siqueland tells us. "The operation of public transit is subsidized not only in Minnesota but around the world. Our metro Blue Line has a history of being at the top of its class when it comes to amount of [operational expenses] that are covered through fares, and that's about 35-40 percent annually."

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181 comments
Marisa
Marisa

Clearly they don't depend on it on a daily basis...

Sco Kel
Sco Kel

Trains are so old hat. Solar roadways is what all the cool kids are talking about it. Google it time travelers.

Chris Coffman
Chris Coffman

Sweet I can't wait to jump on it...now if we could get it up the 494 or 94 corridor

Andrew Hodny
Andrew Hodny

As the number of nodes in any network increase the more useful the network becomes and the more users use it. The cost per mile of track is pretty constant, but as you add more lines with more connection points, the network becomes useful for more people. The marginal cost per new rider decreases. What we need is to be investing in a full network that can useful for more and more people and zone for density along those routes. This is a good start but we need the full network of street cars, commuter rail, and light rail plus existing buses.

Mark L. Tancabel
Mark L. Tancabel

When you protest do us a favor and do it right on the tracks while the train is coming right at you

Keith Morris
Keith Morris

Why is some Republican douchebag from Woodbury even getting interviewed about -urban- transportation in Mpls and StP that goes nowhere near Woodbury? Just because he's doing a protest? I didn't see any protesters today and I rode all the way to Union Depot. I did see lots of people enjoying the ride and few empty seats. LRT in densely populated areas just makes sense where a subway can't be supported. Mpls has a population density equivalent to that of Seattle and they have a more expansive transit system with numerous LRT extensions being added all the time due to demand for more. It works. StP has 1,500 more people per sq mi than Denver which alone has five LRT lines: it works there too. The problem for these naysayers is that LRT transit in cities like these exist and prove them wrong, but instead of being able to be blissfully ignorant they're now having their blinders ripped off and forced to see 1st hand that they're wrong. Which is apparently worst thing in the world for these people.

Kevin Jay
Kevin Jay

more people have died from lrt than conceal and carry

Ryan Burke
Ryan Burke

lol We are not even close to where we should be. These people's opinions are irrelevant.

Julie Brtek
Julie Brtek

I like way is now leave LT alone I enjoy get to down town Mpls fast then drive and park. Lot faster to get to concert. And enjoy pride in the fall. Thank you.

KennyX
KennyX

I wonder how many shootings will happen on this train. The majority of the route runs through the fucking ghetto. And we all know what happens when the "Diversity" get into close quarters. 

Jocelyn Roybal
Jocelyn Roybal

love public transportation just wish they put more money into bus service in the hood .. #22c hint hint

John Kevin Norman
John Kevin Norman

transit system???? lol there's no "system", just some routes...

Crystal Roth
Crystal Roth

Keeping ahead of the game in mass transit is extremely important. Buses will probably seem like a pay phone in 5 years.

diewieselbiegrande
diewieselbiegrande

Rather than the amount they are spending on this why the hell did'nt they expand the coverage of bus routes? Or how about a bus line that actually runs later than 8 or 9 PM in the "suburbs", that alone would not only create jobs but cut down on drunk driving too lol

Bradley T. Smith
Bradley T. Smith

Yes, MASS transit. MASSive expense to build. MASSive expense to operate (in perpetuity) MASSive gift to the tiny percentage of Minnesotans who will actually use it MASSive hassle to anyone who doesn't, but must travel through the area It'll be great. Great M'ASS.

Sco Kel
Sco Kel

With the money spent thus far on light rail, we could have bought each daily rider a brand new prius. If it was your money, would you invest in trains? If your answer is yes, I have a typewriter factory for sale and I'll give you a great deal!

Mark Hustleby
Mark Hustleby

Why aren't you protesting something like better gun control, or rescue solutions for the homeless? leave the LRT alone. It needs to happen

Mark Hustleby
Mark Hustleby

Twin Cities needs a light rail system that encompasses the entire metro area. It makes us a more viable tourist spot, which is good for the state and for the economy. Republicans USED? to be able to see the big picture, but apparently that has changed.

Jeremy Deysach
Jeremy Deysach

LOL @ Property value skyrocketing!!!! You clearly don't understand what drives property value.

Jeremy Deysach
Jeremy Deysach

We had the cities united with low cost transportation - called a bus.

Jeremy Deysach
Jeremy Deysach

Speculations and delusions aren't exactly a point

Jeremy Deysach
Jeremy Deysach

You are a moron. If he wants to protest the spending of his money on this project, then let him have his free speech.

Jeremy Deysach
Jeremy Deysach

Wow, you know hate is hate no matter how you spin it...

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@KennyX No, we don't know what happens when the "diversity" gets into close quarters. What do you do?  Psssst! You're part of the actual "diversity" in this world - you know, the ones that try to make it miserable for everyone else. It must be very sad for you to go through life filled with hate.  

KennyX
KennyX

Enough tax payer money goes to the degenerates who live in the hood. Maybe those people should quit shitting out welfare babies and committing crimes and get a fucking job so they don't have to take the bus. 

KennyX
KennyX

@diewieselbiegrande Because that would require common sense, something the DFL politicians who run this state lack. 

bradradio
bradradio

Tourists don't know how to use the light rail. I live in the suburbs and don't know how to use it.

roybaljocelyn
roybaljocelyn

@KennyX I have a job that i take the bus to (like 99% of the bus riders) no kids and I pay the same bus fare as people in the suburbs.. Have a nice day :)

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@KennyX @diewieselbiegrande Yet your party is on a slow decline to oblivion. Economy has turned around, MN is running a surplus, we have equal marriage rights for GLBT, great progress in the state's education system, construction projects are booming - yeah, pretty sad - for you. Let's get started on the new line to Eden Prairie! 

ufknw0tm8
ufknw0tm8

@bradradio You have to be pretty stupid to not understand how to use the light rail. At what point in the process of buying a transfer do you get confused?


KennyX
KennyX

@roybaljocelyn You think 99% of the bus riders on the #5, #14, #19 and #22 have jobs? LOLOLOLOLOLOOLLOLOLOLOLO)LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KennyX
KennyX

@ufknw0tm8 Tourists are NOT going to be using the Green Line. And when they use the Blue Line, they only ride it from the MOA to the airport and back. 


This is not NYC where, as a tourist, you almost HAVE to use the Metro (or whatever it is called there). And furthermore, when tourists do come here, they only come to see the MOA. They sure as fuck don't venture into St. Paul and they sure as fuck wouldn't venture in to the filthy ghettos that the Green Line runs through. 

roybaljocelyn
roybaljocelyn

@KennyX @roybaljocelyn lol actually I totally made up the 99% thing ( you got me) but I'm sure its not as bad as you think. maybe someone who has time will find the real statistic

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@KennyX @ufknw0tm8 You DO realize that the Green Line terminus in St. Paul is at the Union Depot? That Amtrak and Megabus both stop there? Are you really that fucking stupid? I see lots of people going to and from the airport on the Blue Line - many tourists and travelers will use the Green Line as well. And University Ave. is looking nicer everyday - business is picking up. Watch for for store openings and construction projects along the line. 


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