Kenwood neighborhood wants Hidden Beach to close at 4 p.m.

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The Kenwood neighborhood is offering to pay $5,000 for added police patrols to enforce the earlier closing time.
Following a meeting last week, the Kenwood Isles Neighborhood Association is calling on the Minneapolis Park Board to change the closing time of East Cedar Lake Beach (otherwise known as Hidden Beach) to 4 p.m. for the rest of the season, at least.

The beach currently closes at 10 p.m., but the neighborhood, citing problems with intoxicated misbehavior, late-night loitering, and property crimes (among other issues), has come to the conclusion that the status quo can't be maintained.

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In fact, the resolution put together by KIAA notes that of the 120 email responses the neighborhood group recently received weighing in on proposed changes to Hidden Beach's operations, "a slight majority favored total closing."

More than 80 percent of respondents favored some closing of the beach, the resolution says.

Here's the resolution, which was sent our way yesterday by a neighborhood official:

Hidden Beach Resolution



Larry Moran, chair of the Kenwood Isles Area Association, tells us, "It is definitely up to [the Park Board] to implement the changes we are requesting."

"We hope they consider our request quickly and can make the changes as soon as possible," he adds.

Last week, Park Board officials told us they plan to seek more community input and make a decision about Hidden Beach's future over the winter.

Send your story tips to the author, Aaron Rupar. Follow him on Twitter @atrupar.





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Anna Gonzalez
Anna Gonzalez

Wow your logic is... fucked. So if there is no proof.... it never happened. I dont live in kenwood. I will probably never have enough money to live in kenwood. You obviously never have had to call the police before. It takes them sometimes hours to get to a call if its not priority. Im sure there are pictures of puke, loud drunk people, etc, do I know where they are, no. Im not that involved in this issue. What ive gotten from this is you can either own a nice house or you can have community problems but not both.

Anya AthroughZlorenzi
Anya AthroughZlorenzi

Honestly, I'm surprised so many people still frequent it after all the changes. It's not the same 'Hidden Beach', it's just another beach on a lake in Mpls. Also, "police publicly agreed with the beach-goers by reporting that crime was not any higher at the beach than it was at many other official beaches in Minneapolis." So basically, any beach you go to in Mpls & the people who live around the beach have all of these same problems. This group shouldn't have to just because they have more money, but the people who live around Hiawatha Beach can just suck it up? You know me...I don't roll that way :) I still think if they took a different approach to it they might have better results. You know that old adage "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"? They should try that.

Karissa Stone
Karissa Stone

The people who cause problems usually don't care if the area is technically open. City parks close, but that doesn't mean people don't go there after hours.

Anya AthroughZlorenzi
Anya AthroughZlorenzi

Getting shot & having your lawn peed on are two pretty different outcomes. People who move into higher crime neighborhoods - to change the tone of the neighborhood - become active in their neighborhood. They get to know their neighbors, ally with their neighbors to do positive & productive things like hosting occasional 'take back the night'-type stuff. They don't just keep calling the cops in and whining about shit because they know that won't change anything. Maybe if the neighbors took a less 'us vs. them approach to this there could be a resolution.

Anya AthroughZlorenzi
Anya AthroughZlorenzi

Yeah, that is not ok at all - though I've never actually seen anything or participated in anything like that. I guess it certainly could happen, though the police presence there has always been petty strong too. I've seen them more often than I've seen people act like assholes.

Deborah Dopp
Deborah Dopp

Don't Kenwood people have smart phones? Where are all the photos and videos of all the drunks pissing in your yards? Are they posted on Facebook? Did you call police and have them arrested? Proof, or it never happened.

Vanessa Grausam
Vanessa Grausam

Did anyone read the resolution? The first 2 paragraphs can be summed up as "this place used to be a quiet secluded beach enjoyed by neighborhood citizens and now everyone knows about it". Please cry me a river. I've never been to the spot since I live very far away but is the issue with people being disrespectful and breaking the law really THAT out of hand? I also noted the resolution makes reference to the fact that all of these crimes are happening and nobody is calling the police.... If crimes are being committed near my house, in my neighborhood I would call the police. So maybe the residents are just as much to blame for things being out of hand, if that is the case.

Melissa Barnes
Melissa Barnes

I haven't been there in decades but, bite me. The beach was there. You moved in. Deal with it.

Jeff E Powers
Jeff E Powers

I believe the neighbors in Kenwood should be listened to . Keeping in mind they pay some of the highest property tax in the city .

Cris Longfield
Cris Longfield

Take care &pay more attention to your Schools Saw them on the NEWS a day or two ago ====A guy called the school cause his kids bus didnt show up he was on hold for 90 Min.Bus driver said he was lost ?Ya in his own MIND!!!!!!

TruDat
TruDat

Where are the George Zimmermans when you need them? Take your neighborhood back, people! The cops are a last resort.  

Justine Moser
Justine Moser

This is what happens when people do drugs, drink, and cause trouble at beaches. The neighborhood is complaining about it all. And there are children that live in that area that they don't want exposed to all the illegal stuff that goes on there. They're also considering closing it completely and covering it all back up w/ trees and brush.

Rick White
Rick White

Riot!!! Jk not really. But seriously. Jk. Seriously.

Lily Ann
Lily Ann

I could see if the beach was in St Paul to expect a 4pm close but not Mpls. Plus, That puddle is closed 75% of the year, people really can't suck it up and the other people really can't behave for barely over a month out of the year? And isn't people pissing in your lawn kind of de rigeur living around any metropolis? I live in the city and I would love a bb gun for every asshole with bass and no dynomat that sits and douches out at the stoplight near my house but I don't. I could also move to the suburbs. But I don't.

Laura Keiser
Laura Keiser

I've been regularly going to that beach for almost 30 years, so I certainly hate to see it close down or become a row of McMansions, but there can't be one beach in the city set aside for anarchy. Those neighbors get raped in taxes by the city on top of it... they should be able to have some say in what happens in their community.

Laura Keiser
Laura Keiser

I'm surprised, Anya AthroughZlorenzi, that you would say that. If I move to a crappy neighborhood and get shot, should I just accept it because I knew what I was getting into?

Laura Keiser
Laura Keiser

It's one thing to have nude people or people smoking pot AT the beach, but quite another when people are drunkenly running into your parked car and pissing in your yard. I haven't seen complaints about people being peaceful at the beach, just a-hole behavior particularly away from the beach.

Anya AthroughZlorenzi
Anya AthroughZlorenzi

Laura - I figure that most of them knew about the public beach when they bought there & it is and has been an active community space for many decades so they should just live with it!

Laura Keiser
Laura Keiser

Anya AthroughZlorenzi-I love the beach but kind of leaning with the neighborhood. If it were in my backyard, I'd be pissed, too. I went on Sunday and it was lovely.

Jake Tonsager
Jake Tonsager

Would you charge for sunshine as well or is that free?

james937
james937

This park belongs to everyone, and that does not exclude noisy teenagers.  If you cannot handle living in close proximity to people enjoying themselves, move to a gated community in the suburbs. I live on a noisy street in Minneapolis, and I believe it is my own fault if the noise upsets me.  

Deborah Dopp
Deborah Dopp

It is a sacred spot that the park 'bored' tried to ruin. That beach is the best one for evening sun gazing. It is historic and needs to be preserved. I'll bet someone wants to buy lakefront property so they can McMansionize that area. No.

Anya AthroughZlorenzi
Anya AthroughZlorenzi

Those folks have been gunning for this beach for AT LEAST 25 years. There WILL be protests (I'm imagining many bags of flaming poo!) if the parks dept. agrees with the residents. Maybe they should have thought about that before buying property next to a well-known and regularly-used PUBLIC beach! What do you thnk, Laura...Misti...?

Angie Kiefer
Angie Kiefer

Not even fair for those who work and want to go to the beach after they are off..

John Steitz
John Steitz

Most people aren't even off of work at 4PM. Give me a break. Imagine if folks in a lower income neighborhood demanded a public park's hours be scheduled to close in the afternoon for their convenience. Do you think the city would listen? Probably not. YOU DONT OWN THE COMMONS, RICH YUPPIES!

Christen Winsor
Christen Winsor

Hidden used to be so awesome, what happened? Hoopers and hipster have made it impossible to enjoy.

Blewz Kloose
Blewz Kloose

Was that you who sucked my dick at 4 am the other morning? Gosh I really couldn't tell because of all the ACID I was on....

Tim Williams
Tim Williams

Actually alotta that stuff goes on around 4am at Hidden Beach..But I'm sure you're well aware of all that.

Jesse Spalding
Jesse Spalding

The beach is in full swing at 4pm. Do they want to disrespect all of those who enjoy the beach? Guess what? It's OUR beach here too and a public park, we should ALL have a say about park rules. Politics in this state and city are ass backwards.

JockoSuskevich
JockoSuskevich

@citypages That is lame on so many levels. Come on people, can't we all just be cool and get along?

Anna Gonzalez
Anna Gonzalez

Of course! Im sure there's a couple people with giant sticks up their asses about the beach. But the neighborhood hasn't changed much but the popularity of hidden beach has. I just think any homeowner doesn't want some drunk pissing in their yard, regardless where they live.

Cory Schultz
Cory Schultz

I want those corporate cheats to pay their taxes instead of cops to close a beach!

Johnny M Gayzmonic
Johnny M Gayzmonic

Why can't we be mad at both parties? The whiny blue-bloods in Kenwood don't go to the beach in the first place AND the idiots that are screwing it up for the rest of us?

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