MPD apologizes for helicopters; night two of military training features loud, unlit choppers

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Can you spot the military helicopter flying above downtown Minneapolis in this picture?
You might not have seen helicopters buzzing around the Twin Cities around 11 p.m. last night, but if you live near downtown Minneapolis, you almost certainly heard them.

That's because the damn things were flying around without their lights on during the second night of joint military-law enforcement training.

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Here's one video from the North Loop that gives you an idea:


Another video shot by a veteran who served in Iraq that was later posted to Facebook (unfortunately it's not embeddable) shows an unlit helicopter weaving between buildings in downtown Minneapolis. We'd tell you more about last night's training, but next to none of the information about what's going on is public. That much was made clear in a statement released by the Minneapolis Police Department yesterday.

"Due to safety and security concerns, the exact location of the exercises cannot be released," the statement says. "The routine training is conducted by military personnel in cities across the country and training sites and times have been carefully selected to minimize the impact on the daily routine of residents. The training is not open to the public."

On that note -- do the MPD and Department of Defense think we're all night owls? Helicopters were flying overhead at 11 p.m. last night for God's sake! In the wake of Fireworks-Gate, some tried to look on the bright side: But in all seriousness, the loud training didn't just impact people in downtown Minneapolis: Here's video of military helicopters flying over downtown St. Paul during the first night of training on Monday:



The presence of military choppers over the Twin Cities had some comparing our cities to American battlefields of yore: But it should be noted that at least one thoughtful person argued people are being a bit quick to complain about training that could at least in theory be useful someday.

(For more, click to page two.)


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midwestexplorer81
midwestexplorer81 topcommenter

Big boys play with big toys. It will be all fun and games until one of the toys crashes and people die! 

I realize we need a trained military and a police force but these training exercises that have been going on for years involving special forces working with local police is waaaay overkill. Some of these guys need to grow up and get real jobs instead of living off the taxpayers teet preparing for attacks that will never come.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

I really don't give a rat's ass what they do as long as the don't play their little war games over Edina. We have our own armored vehicles and militarized police helicopters.  We don't need that crap taking place over our city. 

Chuck
Chuck

It was cool to watch from the river in St Paul, I'd rather have the DoD prepared then not, I can't believe all those that whined about it, maybe they should go down to Ferguson MO to mellow that stupid situation out! 

Michael J. Kraemer
Michael J. Kraemer

Prepared for a hostage or terrorist situation in one of the downtown buildings. They were practicing landing on top of buildings using transport helicopters. You should start to worry when you see an attack helicopter.

Michael J. Kraemer
Michael J. Kraemer

It was not the police, it was the Department of Defense performing these training drills.

Wade Johnson
Wade Johnson

I've definitely been closer to helicopters but never outside a uniform. There was no need for my windows to be rattling in the middle of the night. Put the toys away, DoD.

John Bunch
John Bunch

I love the smell of food trucks in the morning. It smells like victory.

John Bunch
John Bunch

They need to start paying "Ride of The Valkuries" by Wagner.

Joel O'Brien
Joel O'Brien

I'm screwed if a disaster happens. I didn't notice a thing.

Mark Samuelson
Mark Samuelson

By the way, yesterday, Tuesday night at 10:50 PM, I experienced by far the lowest and loudest helicopter fly by, and hover, I ever have in my life. I live in the Highland Park neighborhood of St. Paul.

Mark Samuelson
Mark Samuelson

Outspending as a nation the other top 12 nations combined in military expenditures isn't enough, if we can convert the sanctity of our neighborhoods into additional strength for the military -- it's a no brainer. I say let's volunteer ourselves, without consent, or volunteering ourselves, to having militarized vehicles and teams of semi automatic armed troops run drills through our neighborhood streets late on weekday nights. One wonders how the strength of the U.S. military got to have such unchallenged world dominating reach without these exercises? I'm also in favor of roving National Guard units equipped with German Shepherds trained to sniff out the level of support for the troops from house to house and business to business.

downtowndweller
downtowndweller

I was talking about this with my neighbors outside last night while it was happening. You guys are all aware that we live in one of the largest terrorist cells feeder areas in the US right? there is a lot more going on in your backyard then you realize. A couple key people in many terror activities from around the world were from mpls. 

I don't know I don't mind it and I don't want to know what they know  and I don't. 

Lynda Lerum
Lynda Lerum

There was something hovering over Eden Prairie last night. Military? what the hell. This is disgusting. You are the Police department, motto is to protect and serve. Not be attack ready. We have a National Guard for that, oh wait, they have mostly been killed serving in Afghan. and Irag.

Cameron Sarnstrom
Cameron Sarnstrom

Some cool footage, what the training is for would be interesting to know.

Mitch Vogel
Mitch Vogel

What about spotting the helicopter with ADS-B?

Jason Grinnell
Jason Grinnell

Should be more helicopters flying around Minneapolis.

Michael J. Kraemer
Michael J. Kraemer

I'm talking more about someone taking over the Federal Building. They would not use helicopters to stop a protest.

Jason Schueppert
Jason Schueppert

Prepared for what? All of the helicopter attacks we face every day?

Wade Johnson
Wade Johnson

Right. Never know when they may need to squash a protest.

Michael J. Kraemer
Michael J. Kraemer

I feel safer now that they will be prepared for when they are actually needed.

barbertj23
barbertj23 topcommenter

I live at Lyndale and Franklin, and I didn't hear anything.  

downtowndweller
downtowndweller

St. Paul's finest Joe ( get off my lawn) Souchary wrote all about it in the Pioneer Press today. I would think he would have better things to write about, but then again I always think about his column. 

Jim E
Jim E

@barbertj23 I'm at Franklin & Harriet and one of those things buzzed right over …. 

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