River Oasis Cafe getting killed for "Min Wage Fee" on Yelp

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River Oasis Cafe's Yelp page is hosting a heated discussion of the restaurant's controversial fee.
News that Stillwater's River Oasis Cafe is charging customers a 35-cent "minimum wage fee" has resulted in people from around the world destroying the place on Yelp.

Most of the Yelp reviews posted pre-minimum wave kerfuffle were positive, but the restaurant's aggregate score is quickly being dragged down as more and more people post their objections to the fee.

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The negativity started rolling in on Wednesday:

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While most of the negative reviews came from folks who don't live in Minnesota, some are local:

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This guy praised the food before laying into Oasis's owner:

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Some of the negative posts are of questionable veracity, however.

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Eric Bowman
Eric Bowman

Moral of the story... If you are honest and forward you will get shit on. If you keep everything hidden from people you will not have to deal with backlash. Take some lessons from the government people... :/

Erik Rasmussen
Erik Rasmussen

Yeah they should hide the increase like every other restaurant

Mark Listrud
Mark Listrud

Yelp, Inc. is a multinational corporation headquartered in San Francisco, California, that operates an "online urban guide" and business review site. Yelp was founded by Jeremy Stoppelman and Russel Simmons in 2004. The company's Yelp website began as an email service for exchanging local business recommendations, and later introduced social networking features, discounts, and mobile applications. Yelp has extended its services to Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Singapore and parts of Europe. Google offered to buy the company in 2009, but they and Yelp failed to reach an agreement on the terms of a sale. Yelp received $130 million in venture finance as a privately held company, and began public trading of its stock on the New York Stock Exchange in 2012. The firm acquired Qype, its largest European rival, in 2012, and online reservation company SeatMe, in 2013. The company's rating system and tools for filtering reviews have been the subject of both controversy and litigation. A Harvard business administration professor co-wrote a study in November 2013 that said that fake reviews on the site rose to roughly 20% in 2013. So they lose a review on Yelp, yippee skippee.

Fredlock Dobbs
Fredlock Dobbs

You have mastered googling, copying and pasting! I take it back

Mark Listrud
Mark Listrud

and what do you have against people over 70 anyways?

Mark Listrud
Mark Listrud

Yelp, Inc. is a multinational corporation headquartered in San Francisco, California, that operates an "online urban guide" and business review site. Yelp was founded by Jeremy Stoppelman and Russel Simmons in 2004. The company's Yelp website began as an email service for exchanging local business recommendations, and later introduced social networking features, discounts, and mobile applications. Yelp has extended its services to Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Singapore and parts of Europe. Google offered to buy the company in 2009, but they and Yelp failed to reach an agreement on the terms of a sale. Yelp received $130 million in venture finance as a privately held company, and began public trading of its stock on the New York Stock Exchange in 2012. The firm acquired Qype, its largest European rival, in 2012, and online reservation company SeatMe, in 2013. The company's rating system and tools for filtering reviews have been the subject of both controversy and litigation. A Harvard business administration professor co-wrote a study in November 2013 that said that fake reviews on the site rose to roughly 20% in 2013.

Mark Listrud
Mark Listrud

if the food is good, and i'm in the area, i would dine there and gladly pay the extra $.35 .. Not helping is the same as hurting...

Carolyn Davis
Carolyn Davis

The ignorance is strong with these ones. If you think it's a good idea to boycott a business in some misguided attempt to help the workers, you're doing exactly the opposite. I've never been to River Oasis, but if I'm ever in Stillwater, I'll go out of my way to support it - he's being totally up front, if a little smart-alecky, about what EVERY restaurant that wants to stay in business in Minnesota will do, if it hasn't already - raise prices. What do you think these are? Charities? They are businesses! And they are businesses with very low profit margins. Labor is often at least 40% of the cost of providing what is at the very least a convenience, and at it's very best, a luxury. This is only the first of three pay raise steps, then an unending series of raises tied to inflation (if most of us were only that lucky!). You'd better visit your favorite Minnesota restaurants while you have a chance, because this state is going to kill many of them.

Chris Blumenfeld
Chris Blumenfeld

Someone explain to me why it is designated a "fee" instead of rolled into employees' wages? Could it be because the owners are trying to dodge payroll taxes?

Tripp Fontain
Tripp Fontain

Why is this such a big deal? I'd gladly pay an extra $0.35 to help an establishment pay their employes minimum wage. It seems completely illogical for anyone who supports the wage increase to bitch about this, and maybe we shouldn't put so much stock into the opinion of those who would gladly see a worker suffer so they don't have to pay an extra $0.35. Stop being so entitled.

worksman
worksman

I find it rather curious that the same people who said they would have no problem paying higher prices to support a higher minimum wage are now saying they want nothing to do with the business that is giving them that very opportunity.

Drewey
Drewey topcommenter

This is funny.  

Aaron Hale
Aaron Hale

But my point of contention is that regardless of how this was delivered from the owner, it still would've been for the same principle. You can't slap lipstick on a pig and pretend it's not still a pig.

Fredlock Dobbs
Fredlock Dobbs

Doesn't even deserve the 3 brain cells it takes to destroy this logic.

Fredlock Dobbs
Fredlock Dobbs

David you havent thought too hard about this eh?

Fredlock Dobbs
Fredlock Dobbs

Fortunately the 17 septuagenarians that eat there don't know what yelp is. Unless it's featured on Bill OReilley

Brian Sanner
Brian Sanner

The complaints are about the owner adding it as a surcharge because he doesn't want to pay a livable wage. Had he simply increased prices of food items by $0.10 - $0.35 cents to make up the lost profits no one would be complaining. The fact they decided to make a statement against paying a decent wage angers a lot of people as the vast majority of Americans support an increase in minimum wage. Not to mention places that have increased the minimum wage have enjoyed growth in their economies and populations.

Jedd Peters
Jedd Peters

Who cares all businesses will be raising their prices to compensate. This place is just showing their customers. Get over it changing the minimum wage is going to drive prices up especially in the service industry. Tipped employees should not get this extra pay in my opinion.

Jamie Rae
Jamie Rae

It's about the fact the owner didn't just increase food item prices by a small amount instead, which would be reasonable.

Conrad Ennen
Conrad Ennen

Either that or raise food prices. I respect this place and would eat there and be happy .we all have survive

Michelle Beyers
Michelle Beyers

Cody, that was a very on point statement that unfortunately is over the heads of a lot of these commenters. They would rather be name callers and really believe that this is about $.35.

Ashley Howie-Petroske
Ashley Howie-Petroske

If your company is going to take a political stand (corporations are people, too, or something like that), don't be surprised when you start to receive political backlash.

Denise Gill Johnson
Denise Gill Johnson

They could just raise their prices on the menu and not name it a minimum wage fee...cuz that's what will happen.

Nick Leonetti
Nick Leonetti

when you raise minimum wages the price of everything rises...why the big debate on here...so what if some cat decides to be honest and post it on his bill...if you dont like it than dont spend money there..and encourage other people to do the same...thats what the country we live in is about...aint it grand?

Drew Miller Parks
Drew Miller Parks

Its .35 Cents….thats all. Really nothing to complain about. It's less money then purchasing one song on I Tunes. Cannot believe people actually complain about .35 cents.

Jaquelyn Annette Miller
Jaquelyn Annette Miller

I'd rather know where my money is going than pay a tax for something I have no idea where it ends up. It's listed on the check when you pay AND it's only .35 cents. I think it's reasonable and a very smart idea to balance out a way to keep his employees employed and happy and be able to stay open.

Chris Israel
Chris Israel

Its greed for a business owner to charge 35 cents, but perfectly acceptable for him to have to pay employees more money...blatant leftist hypocrisy.

Chris Israel
Chris Israel

People would rather just not know I guess...

Shawn Poole
Shawn Poole

It's actually simple mathematics but liberals just don't get it!!! Fuck Mark Dayton. I can't believe this state actually elected an official with mental health problems. The man can't even take care of himself more less a whole state.

Tim Fahs
Tim Fahs

Brilliant, Michael. Do you know what a tip credit is?

Michael Jacobs
Michael Jacobs

Minnesota is one of only five states that do not have a tip credit. Every other state does....Your own words...

Hiedi Winter Jonnes
Hiedi Winter Jonnes

Glad the restaurant is spelling it out. This is how it works folks - good, bad, or indifferent. Increase in min wage causes inflation. It doesnt help our economy become stronger, it does the opposite. Own a small business. See what its really like to make a living balancing wages, prices, materials and goods, and taxes.

j__m
j__m

please. do they also have "cost of beef went up this week" surcharges? how about "gas costs more" charges during the summer?


the choice to single out this particular business expense is a political statement of the part of the restaurant, and people are right to boycott them if they don't appreciate it.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

Eric Bowman................ Moral of the story... If you are honest and forward you will get shit on...........................WOW!!! Do you think before you post something? Your perspective is overwhelmingly in the minority. Let me help you and I will key slowly so you can understand. The issues is not about transparency it is a political position that not everyone agree's with. You are clearly not capable of critical thought.

j__m
j__m

do they also add "the price of beef is up this week" surcharges? how about an "increased gas price" fee during the summer? singling out this particular business expense is making a political statement, and everyone who boycotts this business is entirely right to do so.

PopeScooby
PopeScooby

It's not the .35 cents that is the issue. I think most everyone complaining would gladly pay extra to support an increased minimum wage. The problem is he is using his employees and customers to make a political statement. It's clear he came up with .35 as an arbitrary number. That in no way adds up to the actual change in costs. If you buy a $1 coffee you get charged the same .35 as you would if you bought a $40 steak. He is not trying to help his employees, he is trying to get people to reject the Minimum wage being raised, so he is actually trying to hurt his employees. If he was actually trying to help he would have just raised the cost of the food items .25  or something and no one would be complaining.

ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter

Tripp...............................READING COMPRENSION IS NOT YOUR STRONG SUIT!  It's not about the 35 cents it is about his political statement. You didn't get that? Really? 

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

...and isn't that what what most folks on here are doing? Stating that they aren't going to spend money there and encouraging others to do the same? Free speech works both ways - ain't it grand? 

digitalprotocol
digitalprotocol topcommenter

hahahahahah YOU BUY MUSIC   HAHAHHAHAH

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

If you weren't so dumb and could actually read and comprehend the comments here, you'd know that it's NOT the .35 cents people are pissed about - it's the political grandstanding of the asshole owner. I and many others would gladly pay a little extra per menu item to help cover the increase in wages. 

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Again, it's not the .35 cents - it's the political grandstanding. Jeez you righties are a stupid bunch of fucks. 


ron.fresquez
ron.fresquez topcommenter


Shawn Poole...................  This  man can't even take care of himself more less a whole state................................................................................


Shawn Poole's career: 

Foreman at Md Concrete, LLC  2007 to present


Studied at Rosemount High School



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Mark Dayton's career: 


Graduating from Yale University


During the 1970s, he served as a legislative aide to U.S. Senator Walter Mondale and Minnesota Governor Rudy Perpich. 


In 1978, Dayton was appointed the Minnesota Economic Development Commissioner


Elected to the Senate in 2000


Dayton took the oath of office to become Governor of Minnesota on January 3, 2011



MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

You're wrong - it does help our economy because every extra dollar these minimum wage folks earn will go right back into the local economy - not some rich asshole's foreign tax haven. 

PopeScooby
PopeScooby

@ron.fresquez You know, there are ways to this without sounding like the ass holes disagree with.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@MNjoe Fighting to raise minimum wage, especially for those who don't earn strictly minimum wage, is political grandstanding. Geeze, MNjoe and people like him are a bunch of stupid fucks.

commonsense
commonsense

@MNjoe  You are correct, Mnjoe, the extra dollar they earn goes right back into the economy when they pay higher prices for the same goods and services. Where is the net increase in their pay?  The real increase is in the form of inflation.


MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@commonsense If you really had any common sense, you'd realize that there has been inflation for many years WITHOUT an increase in the minimum wage. These people deserve an increase and if you don't like it, move to Wisconsin. 

commonsense
commonsense

@MNjoe  you really do feel inadequate, don't you? That's the only logical explanation for your vitriol.


mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@MNjoe Asshat: not even servers are fighting for a minimum wage increase for themselves, they make decent money. Ask somebody who knows instead of projecting filth. You are the biggest turd ever.

MicheleBachmann
MicheleBachmann topcommenter

@commonsense I think Joe's vitriol comes from stupid bigots like you who get proved wrong time and time again yet never change your mind or ideas.   Personally, I'm pretty sick of you fact free assholes too.     You keep acting like stupid bigots you are going to make some angry enemies.    Pawlenty and Bush crashed the economy.   Could you stupid fucks maybe try to learn a lesson so we don't have to go back into the fucking dark ages every time a Republican gets elected?  

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@commonsense But then logic doesn't seem to be your strong point, now does it? The min. wage has been raised and it will go to $9.50 in 2016 and then be indexed to inflation after that. Again, keep bitching and maybe grow an ulcer. Minnesotans have seen the state go from a $5 billion deficit under the Repubs to a surplus under Dayton. He raised the taxes on the top 2% and the state has created more jobs. Why would any person with actual common sense want Republicans in charge again? P.S. Actually, I feel just fine - well, can't chat - off to work. Another beautiful DFL day in the great state of MN. :-)

MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

@mingtran @MNjoe Whine all you want crybaby - the Dems won big in MN and the state is doing much better under their leadership. Gay folks can get married, your voter ID bullshit went down in flames and the minimum wage will be going up over the next couple of years. There is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it except continue to whine like the fucking crybaby you are. Dayton and Franken will easily win re-election this Nov. and Klobuchar will easily win her re-election bid in 2016 (as will Hillary on the national level.)  Most Americans are fed up with your tax cuts for the wealthy, screw the poor philosophy and your party is looking more and more like the Whigs everyday. Suck it, loser. 

commonsense
commonsense

@MicheleBachmann  Socialism has failed everywhere it has been implemented, and it will fail here too in spite of your profanities.

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

@MNjoe @mingtran You forgot that unemployment has fallen faster than most other states.  Also that we have a budget surplus.  Thanks Dayton and DFL supporting cast for making this state better again after T. Paw's reign.

mingtran
mingtran topcommenter

@ChazDanger @MNjoe THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BUDGET SURPLUS, LOCALLY OR NATIONALLY, BECAUSE WE EMPLOY A FRACTIONAL RESERVE CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEM.  Way to deviate from topic as well.

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