Slug: The Twin Cities' hip-hop scene is still oversaturated

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Slug performing during Atmosphere's stop at First Avenue in February.
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Judging by the number of racist comments this blog weathers, some locals believe any amount of Twin Cities rap is too much. (Perhaps a Star Tribune writer feels that way, too.) For those of us who do enjoy partaking in the beats and rhymes, it's still possible to reach a threshold. These Modern Radio message board users felt this way in 2005, and Atmosphere rapper Slug discussed the scene's "oversaturation" in a 2008 TC Daily Planet interview.

Now, a journalist writing for an Australian magazine -- these things seem to always originate overseas -- asked Slug to revisit that very same question of how crowded the local community has become.

Here's the quote, from Matt Shea's Q&A posted at the esteemed Passion of the Weiss blog:

You made this really interesting comment in an interview a few years ago saying that the Twin Cities scene has become oversaturated. Do you still think that's the case?
I mean... I think... (sighs, pauses) Yeah, I do. I just hate to say it. I do! I feel like there are so many people here making music, and everybody is afraid to tell each other that they suck. It's funny, because I come from a time where people would be honest with you; if you were wack, they'd call you wack and hurt your feelings. And if you wanted to fight, they'll fight. Nowadays, if you tell somebody that they're wack, you're a hater. And nobody wants to be called a hater! You know. And then on the other side of things, if you tell somebody that they're dope, you're a dickrider. Nobody wants to be a dickrider!

So instead, what we do is everybody just nods and plays it off and totally deals with each other's music. But truthfully, some of this shit is great and some of this shit is garbage. So in that sense, I do think there still is some over-saturation here, locally. I can't speak for other scenes in other cities, but I know this scene. And this scene could do better if we got rid of half of these rappers, and the other half of these rappers were given more time to get onstage and work out their shit to become extra dope.

And don't shy from reading the rest of the interview. It's a nice rundown of where Atmosphere is in 2012, and you can also peep the Scene Magazine piece that was formed from the interview here.

Since Rhymesayers' yearly Soundset has arrived every May for the past five years, this has traditionally become the month when the hip-hop sponge that is the Twin Cities becomes sopping wet. Gimme Noise certainly takes part in creating this dousing, and credit local hip-hop stalwarts like Midwest Broadcast and Sound Verite for providing a load of local coverage of note.

And, speaking for this blog, the future will likely still feature plenty of that rap music. And so we're definitely part of the problem -- or the solution? For more on how we, and other news outlets in the area, find our hip-hop, check out BeScene MPLS's recent interview with myself, Star Tribune's Chris Riemenschneider, TC Daily Planet's Jay Gabler, and A.V. Club's Jason Zabel, "Bridging the Gap: Local Hip-Hop x Local Press." Perhaps this is an oversaturation of coverage of hip-hop coverage, but you've already read this far. 

Getting back to Slug's point, we'd definitely agree that nobody wants to be called a hater, and that's why our anonymous comments field can be so handy. What do you think about the current saturation level for hip-hop acts in the Twin Cities? Are we overflowing or comfortably moist?

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Dave Dean
Dave Dean

Over saturation everywhere... don't be so sensitive minneapolis

Mike
Mike

good god you guys take this hiphop battle garbage seriously. the whole culture is a joke. for example, how many times have you heard this- "I only listen to GOOD/INTELLIGENT hiphop" - from some suburban moron with no taste.

Blazeitrecordsradio
Blazeitrecordsradio

I'm thankful for the music scene we have in MN. I hear about budget cuts to arts in other states, makes me wonder what music will sound like in the future. I agree we have to many " hip-hop " cooks in the kitchen, but ultimately those who use the best ingredients, master their craft, use constructive criticism as a tool for creating a well rounded product rise to the top. To some music is a means of escape from pressures of life, If someone isn't the best rapper, guitarist, pianist, producer, drummer, DJ, whatever but it's one of their few pleasures in life. I doubt I would tell them " you suck A!" l'll leave that job for the club booking agents, music critics, fans who use their $ to show support. I wonder what some would say if this topic was about cover bands who slaughter songs and get big $? Too many of them? Lol. Anyway on another note I can't wait for Sound Set. I used to love going to Scribble Jam every year down in Cincinnati to watch my friends compete. Now we have one of the biggest/best hip-hop festivals in the country. I'll always be grateful for that! If you're worried about " wack " rappers, this show in my opinion will feature none. Be there or be square :)

Eannnielson
Eannnielson

The comments on this are pretty interesting to read. I guess I can say in a sense I agree but is it truly anyone's right or place to judge and tell someone their shit is wack? Maybe if they are on the holier-than-thou tip....then go for it bc that shit is just straight annoying and ignorant. But everyone has a right to make music....whether it is the shittiest or greatest sound we have heard...it may be that persons passion and help create a sense of accomplishment because it is their dream and they are honestly and genuinely going for it...regardless of it being wack or not. I see his point but man...from someone, who in alot of ways, set the standards and paved the way and most likely had a heavy influenceopen most of these kids,....a lot of these people were and are your fans. So in the end....I respect where he is coming from....but also have some respect as well...you were that kid, with a dream, at one time too.

Nimo Thehooligan OfSlipmats
Nimo Thehooligan OfSlipmats

I think, what is a bit funny, being a larger population center and all that is Minneapolis/St. Paul (not to mention the largest in the surrounding 4 states), that relatively speaking every "scene" is over saturated if you look closely enough at it...

Being someone who flows back and forth between the grindtime/loud mouth battle leagues, hip hop/electronic dj scenes, plus having been a DJ in several pop rock, alternative, funk, jazz, improv, "jam" projects and shows, there is a HUGE base of artists AND fans everywhere, all the time.... there is music you listen to, and music you dont. If some one now-a-days walked up to me in a confrontational manner over a bad song choice and was a total dick, whats "cool" about that? I wont call you a "hater", i would more aptly call you an "asshole" and you might walk away with a black eye for saying something sideways. 

Calling people out over dis tracks and the like is a different story, as you are trying to out-do/one up another individual on a lyrical/scheme level in RAP.

Hip hop in its origins was born of a gritty, not always friendly place, but still exuded positivity AS WELL as beef/battles...

But these kids in the MPLS scene are soft as warm poo, and, ITS OK! Arguably, the prevalence of the emo/backpacker/conscious genres has MADE it so. Kids wanna talk about and relate to their feelings with others. 

if this was NY, ATL, Mississippi, hell, ANYWHERE IN EUROPE THAT STILL EMBRACES THE 4 ELEMENTS AS STANDARD PRACTICE, it would be a different story. 

raise your hand if you've been to a live, freestyle battle or even heard of a DJ battle of any kind in the last 3 or 4 years....

yeah...

walking up to people and telling them they "suck" in an attempt to "weed them out" is simply not what we do now-a-days and is, again, a good way to wind up arrested or in the hospital in certain circles.

As the homie Alex Frecon stated, its like a social Darwinism.... those who suck or are too lazy, high, stupid etc will not succeed ANYWAY. 

Longevity, persistance, networking, TOURING (which WAAAAAAAAAAAY too many LOCAL cats DONT do, thus, have no good point of reference besides other MPLS rappers or bigger acts).... these things take time, learning, experience... 

Slug, when did you feel you finally "made it"? how old were you? how long did it take? how many times were you told you "sucked"? obviously none of it stopped you, and nor should it stop ANYONE else.

I imagine a different time of course, before social networking, where "selling hand to hand to the true fans" (as Mr. Michael Larsen would put it), handing out fliers, word of mouth etc were all that you had... it was "more work" back then. Actual "paying dues" as opposed to "paying to play". For that, you and Rhymesayers/Doomtree/Stophouse/Interlock have/had much respect regionally, nationally, and internationally. 

At any rate, I feel I am rambling.

In a nut shell, I love our scene, there is room for all, let the dissing and nasty criticism be had in BATTLES, and of course have respect for each other and give constructive criticism to better all of us.

I just cannot envision myself telling some young kid he "sucks", only to check his/her ego at the door and simply make the music that springs forth from them.

Big ups to the homies Knox, Jess, Ackronem, Steve Poons, Botzy, and anyone else doing what they do and working their asses off at finding their bliss. 

ChazinEntertainment
ChazinEntertainment

I believe people are afraid to hate on peoples music for the fear that it will inturn make them hate on there own music, since everyone in minneapolis is a rapper. People try to support others in hopes of them supporting back. Minneapolis is saturated with wack ass rappers. But can you blame us? It only seems fair that a city who birthed a couple of the most succesful indy rappers and record labels has an entire city trying to follow in its footsteps.

Its a problem because since everyone is a rapper, nobody really takes the time to support because there too concearned with there own look. Speaking from a promoters standpoint I can't stress enough how difficult it is to be a succesful promoter and manager in a city where no one wants to pay 10 bucks to see a local cat kill the mic unless they have that mass appeal.

We live in a city where everyone wants to be chief.

I think there is emence amount of talent in minnesota but due to the lack of support resulted from everyone fighting for the spotlight, no one gets credit when due, and people are dying for fans so they don't speak the truth when they hear you spit.

I believe the only solutution is to take your act to the road, gain your fans elsewhere and build your global audience AND THEN come back to the sota like WHAT UP!

But regardless if you like slug or not, he has paved the way and proven that the kid with the mic can make it happen. Respect

Peace

BboyJsun1
BboyJsun1

Oversaturation? Of Hip Hop? Oh you mean music. I'm a Bboy and we need more DJs, graff writers and dancers. Hip Hop is the name of the culture. And you are wack for not knowing it. My point is that there are other types of Hip Hop communities. Get it right! J-Sun

Ackronem
Ackronem

The oversaturation means theres a market. i think its a good thing. I definitively am a bit to blame about giving pseudo respect but I see how that can lead to some issues and im going to change my attitude a bit.

I think anyone has any right to say anything especially if asked if you dont like it dont listen theres better things to do with your time.

Billbrasky
Billbrasky

The best thing that could happen to the twin cities music scene in general... Get rid of this blog as well as Andrea Swenson's blog. I am so sick of hearing about the same 10 artists over and over and over and over and over and over again. Do yourself a favor and go see some music that isn't featured in this blog or on the current. See some acts that aren't part of the "good ol' boy network"

Steve Poons
Steve Poons

If you can't take professional criticism, you're too insecure to hold the mic anyways. Mad love KnoX

Ibstenlund
Ibstenlund

Don't get to thinking "All this music scene needs is for me to tell more people they suck." Then not only do we have shitty acts, we have shitty fans on ego trips.  

Support your friends' music, tell them honestly what you think without being harsh.  Some of my best friends don't like my music much, and I don't like theirs, but we're all very different people trying to do very different things.  So?  We still support each other and we let each other know when something sounds wack. 

Steve Poons
Steve Poons

While I agree that the local scene is completely saturated, I feel that this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Like Guante mentioned, we are a diverse community with many different styles and personalities that have the opportunity to hit fans in different ways.

No matter what city you go to, there will always be some local artists that just plain suck. It's nothing against them personally, they just don't have the natural talent or don't put in the work necessary to improve. I think that we need to establish a line in the sand between a "whack rapper" and a YOUNG rapper. There are plenty of young cats out in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area that are just starting off in their musical journey and they need our encouragement to take that next step.

In my opinion, that is what makes our community so strong. Artists, venues, and fans all support each other. We go out to each others shows on a regular basis with no other purpose than to just show our friends some love. That's a beautiful thing.

At the same time, I think the artists out there that lack the talent or motivation will be weeded out accordingly. If you put out a sub-par product, you will find a lack of love in return.

All in all, I feel the amazing amount of talent in this city FAR outweighs the garbage and I am proud to call this city home. When you break it down though, there is NO WAY IN HELL that we would have as much talented people in this city if it wouldn't have been for Slug. He and Rhymesayers have not only put this city on the map, but they have paved the way and given local artists a successful model to try and follow.

Mad love to the veterans of Twin Cities hip hop.

KnoX
KnoX

 HATE HATE HATE!!Taste is relative, Wackness is absolutley Universal. Since he's the man of the hour lets use slug as an example also can sneak franz in there since he was mentioned. In my opinion Atmospheres last few joints, patchy for me i liked this one and didnt that one but i could'nt call it wack. it just was'nt my flavor. Franz diego hes not my favorite MC nor am i a fan of his solo music yetinstill hes not wack just not my cup of tea. now the homie always trying to sell me his burnt CD of unmixed, off beat, eyedea mocking, ameture hip hop for 10 dollars needs to be told "Son, thats wack go back to the basement and dont come out till that shit is worth presenting." the information age has everyone so ready before there actually ready because of the access. they have friends thinking he raps "OMG thats soooo cool." and others in silence when the proper thing to do would be to tell him he needs to hit the gym and work on that jump shot if you trying to play with the D1 leaguers. Man i came up spitting on a four track we pulled a kick door to get. Before that to hone our skillz we would loop beats from tape to tape(EXTREMELY TEDIOUS PROCESS) and record songs on that tape recorder with the 12" recordplayer on top. We had to nail each track in one take! overdubs everything homies huddled around a mic and dont get me started on beats, u know how hard it was to find a beatmaker??? smh better chance finding a crack dealer in edina. i say that to say this, that polished  us that developed us, that honed our skills. we would shop our tape and OGz(tc legendz) would tell us that sounds like hot garbage work on your shit. we didnt run home crying all sensative and call them haters... we worked on our shit relentlessly! i dont feel its completely that but this information age has so many resources that they make quantum leaps with out taking the right steps of development. All in the name of "Subjective art" feel that anyone that doesnt say they re dope is a hater! like what? how does that make sense, thats a cop out. What if nobody every challenged your thinking as a child? where would your thoughts be? accept critism stop being so fucking sensative, u wouldnt survive in the early stages of hip hop with that disposition. i can see it now, loring pasta bar... 2025 "MC Noname is DQ'd for hurting MC dredlocks feelings" get the fuck outta here...

jon jon scott
jon jon scott

Shout out Slug, who has always been true to MInneapolis. Thanks G.

R2
R2

I really prefer beats to rapping just my thing.. I love everything going on in the UK. not much in MPLS is that interesting because it's just bland.  I'm sorry it's just my opinion that whoever makes slug's beats needs to be changed up.  I feel like mpls rapper/beatmakers are wayt o incestous.  you all sound the same

Bpupp
Bpupp

Also, every music scene is like that. Not only hip-hop but the electronic music scene as well. Their are too many dj's in this city that will play for free or just play all the time. And nobody has the balls to tell them that their music really just sucks. Their is so many people with actual talent that don't get the chance to play because somehow these people with no taste and no talent sucked someones dick and now they get to play. I believe their are too many politics going on that shouldn't be and Slug is right in saying that people need to stand up and tell people that they truely do suck!

jon jon scott
jon jon scott

Minneapolis area hip-hop has grown in many directions, sometimes a bit too arty, drugged -out, clever, boring, exciting, raucous, loud, abbrasive, intelligent, ignorant and wonderful. Minneapolis creates art of it's citizens reality, dark, sad, quite, politically correct and woefully fun and anti-political, each has a lane. The future is bright....imagine for a second the headline "Does Minneapolis have too many Rock bands?".  I hope we get more of both.

Minneapolis Hip-Hop vs. Any city. I'll take Minneapolis

Bpupp
Bpupp

Sure their are too many rappers in this city, but a lot of them aren't going anywhere past this city. They will dwindle away once they realize they won't get anywhere.

Alexandre Frecon
Alexandre Frecon

Hey Slug,

I don't think you're all that surprised with this kind of, minor backlash you've received, and I do agree that there is a vibrant hip-hop scene in this town. I don't think you need to worry about it being over-saturated, because that would imply that the quality has decreased significantly. As Guante pointed out, that is not the case.

The "wack" artists tend to not get any traction. So a kind of hip-hop darwinism will take care of them. You or I could definitely spend our time telling people they're bad, but in all honesty, I imagine we'd rather focus on our own careers! 

I think you grew up in an age where battling rapping was much more prevalent. Minnesota nice has extended into hip-hop, but also, I feel as though the culture has just straight up changed. This is unfortunate, because beef is awesome. Just ask Mandyapolis, she knows how I feel on this one.

Finally, I don't think you should worry about expressing your distaste, because as you said, criticism can be extremely motivating and helpful. But to be worried how people respond to your criticism is kind of backwards. Being called a "hater" should just be interpreted as their response to your hate. Its their way of battling. Its a lame response, but thats the best they can do!

So just brush it off homey! 

AlexP.S. you're a cotton headed ninnymuggins

Rapple10
Rapple10

If I am with Slug on this, does that mean I am a dickrider?

Mike Herriges
Mike Herriges

In terms of sheer numbers, it's hard to disagree with the notion of the local rap scene being over-saturated. There are hundreds of rappers in the Twin Cities making and releasing music, and probably even more that we've never heard of before. A lot of this music is very good (and stylistically diverse, re: Guante's remarks), while quite a bit of it is crap too. Let's also remember that this "problem" is not a local one, and it's definitely not unique to hip-hop; you can find a seemingly unlimited supply of local bands performing in this city, literally any night of the week.

My question is what does "over-saturated" really mean? I would argue that the Twin Cities rap scene has become over-saturated only once I'm so inundated with crap music that I stop being able to discover new music and buy the albums and attend the shows of the artists that I want to rock with. This has not happened to me yet. Plenty of venues (Hell's Kitchen, Honey, Nomad, Cause, etc.) are hosting more low-profile but still very solid local rap shows on a weekly basis. This provides a nice supplement to the larger local acts and national touring artists who play the First Ave/Entry/etc. shows. Sometimes the problem is that consumers aware of all their options have to choose between attending one stacked concert or the other. And frankly, this is a good problem (from a fan's point of view).

Sabra
Sabra

has somebody told slug that the majority of the work past lucy ford was whack? maybe we include "god loves ugly". still, it's like people buying brand name clothing. they start buying the brand when it becomes fashionable...and then they can't even remember why they are buying it. but they still do. for more money.

the reporter should have thrown in "besides your 19 year-old female, waitress with self-esteem issues, demographic...who else inspires you?".

Sheila
Sheila

I agree with the thrust of Slug's statement. I've thought that since about 2000. So I just go to the shows that I know are going to be good, and not the ones that sound like they might be. Although there is more talent, and I've been pleasantly surprised at the strength of the newer "talent" so to speak. I am actually shocked at how wide the base is. It's all love though and you can't hate this man for being honest. Too many egos make it hard to cut to the core sometimes. Minnesota Nice can equal complacency and overall I've observed that in the shows of all music genres are staged here in many different venues.

Jack Spencer
Jack Spencer

This issue is not only a local one. Music itself has changed immensely since Slug started rapping. Thanks to the ASAPs, the OFs, the Chief Keefs, etc etc etc, many people think they can post some music on the internet and make it. Which is actually true, it is easier to blow quickly. Many of today's buzziest artists have only played a handful of shows and haven't put in the work Slug did, but he was working in a different mode and a different era. The cream always rises to the top though, no matter the situation, we're just more aware of rappers at their nascent stages than ever before. 

We are over-saturated and in my opinion that's awesome. I love that we can tout Kristoff as well as I Self Devine as well as Sick as well as Desdamona as well as Long Doe blah blah blah... I don't want our scene to look one particular way. Love it or hate it, support what you want and criticize what you're not feeling. Let's all get better at this shit. Those truly not about it will fall but those that are should be able to see the opportunity to make good on it. 

Anyway, as usual, Guante already said something so any further comment is kind of unnecessary. 

notahaternoradickrider
notahaternoradickrider

According to slug's logic, my girlfriend is a dickrider cuz she thinks i'ma dope!

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

i've been trying to post a comment for over an hour.it won't let me.

it's like it's trying to protect me.

urbanite
urbanite

@Mike so much ignorance in one comment...

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

thankfully, the culture of trolling the comments page is alive and flourishing.

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

shout out to akiem. i remember the days of booing.and hell yes of course i've been dissed and called wack. it made us go into the basement to work harder on our craft.

ok. now that my original response to the journalist that asked me this has been taken way out of context. let me clarify:i wasn't implying that people should go around telling people they are wack.

i was implying that people should stop being yes men.

too many people give each other props, and then leave the show and talk shit about the people they just gave props to. people give each other props in the name of networking.people give you props in hopes that you'll put them on your next event.people give me props in hopes that in turn i'll give props back.it's the "follow back" mentality.anyone involved in this scene knows what i'm talking about.

and let's eliminate the word wack. i was oversimplifying.what i should have said was, "artists who are not yet ready to be showcasing their material."

big jess made a great point in saying that none of this will have an affect on my career's trajectory.he's right. but it ain't about me. it's about us.

when the toilet gets clogged up by "artists who are not yet ready to be showcasing their material," it takes away from the overall momentum of the scene. i'm proud of this city, and i rep it hard everywhere i go. i constantly do my best to promote our quality local hip hop, even when it's stuff that i'm not affiliated with. but when i talk to heads outside of this town they only know about a handful of our artists, and it's always the same handful of names they know. and everyone in this town complains about how local press only covers a handful of names, and it's the same handful of names everytime. maybe if we unclogged this shit a little bit, we'd see more cream rise to the top?

maybe i'm wrong.i probably am wrong. ha. truthfully, it's not like i went into the interview on some, "let me tell you about how our scene is oversaturated." i was surprised that i was even asked about it.but if my statements make me lose some fans, i'm ok with that.i'd rather be disliked for being myself, than liked for being another yes man.

nonetheless, i love you all.i wanna kiss your beautiful faces.

Mohs
Mohs

LOL!! YEAH! call me a "dickrider" i don't care, that was on point! 

Mohs
Mohs

R2:  if you really feel that way, then I have to believe you just aren't listening to the right beatmakers.  yes, the more recent years have resulted in a much more stripped down sound from Atmos, but there's a LOT more out here than that.  Check:  Ganzobean, West End Productions, BigJess of Unknown Prophets, and Mike The Martyr just to name a few.  These cats got HEAT!!  and they ALL have a nice variety to their repertoires.  just sayin, there's a lot here to love!

Slim Chance
Slim Chance

Well said Jon Jon. I'm going to stop reading this on that note. I love the Twin Cities music scene and I enjoyed reading all the comments.

all you who are truly contributing to the hip hop scene know who you are, and others know who you are.

Peace to Slug, Jess, RDM, Guante, Taylor, and the rest of all us rain drops.

Stay wet

Steve Poons
Steve Poons

"Hip-Hop Darwinism" will take care of em... Love it.

Mike Herriges
Mike Herriges

Or maybe a better way to say it is that we are saturated, but we are not over-saturated.

Jason Dorweiler
Jason Dorweiler

Do you really think all material after 2001 was bad? I think there has been alot of focusing and growing in each album after. It's not hard to hear what inspires music or any art for that matter. I think it's up to you to decide what to make of it, and clearly you have. I forget who said, but once you put out a piece of work, it's not yours anymore...

Sabra
Sabra

p.s. yes, my use of commas at the end is also whack. that was an edit gone all astray.

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

nah b. my logic is that people should be able to voice an opinion without the fear of being called a hater or dickrider.

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

wait.  that one worked. what's the dilly yo?

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

also, i'm too a.d.d. to keep paging through this comments page, so if anyone would like to further discuss this with me, feel free to holler at me on twitter. i'll do my best to be prompt with responses, but bare with me, i'm chasing a toddler around and juggling between rap and an aspiring career as a backup dancer for yo gabba gabba.@atmosphere:twitter

R2
R2

ok ill check out those first 3 thanks

Mohs
Mohs

to build on Jason's first 2 sentences above:  Atmos has evolved in their own direction over time, the fact that my personal evolutionary path differed more and more (beginning pretty much with "paint that shit gold"") doesn't mean it's wack, it's just fine for what it is, but i am more apt to bump "guns & cigarettes", "hola", or "if i were santa claus" (the 2nd verse of "santa claus" are the first lyrics of any genre that said exactly what i felt/thought at a time prior to me becoming a writer/artist) than i am anything off "gold"...sorry, my point is:  just because i don't dig it, doesn't mean it's wack.  to me wack = not quality.  i think a lot of people are equating "wack" with "what i don't listen to" and that, in itself, is wack.

Jen
Jen

Some people just get off on being labeled a hater or something though, and will hate though and through. To those people, fuckem.

notahaternoradickrider
notahaternoradickrider

True dat. Still, my girl is a dickrider through n through. I can't wait till she gets home from second shift.

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

maybe the comment bot knows better than to accept my long winded rant.

Jamie Lynn
Jamie Lynn

HEY!  Gift of Gab toured with Yo Gabba Gabba!

JSunthe1
JSunthe1

Bring back the Puma suits son!

Peace

Slugisdumb
Slugisdumb

damnit. i told the homie i wasn't gonna post a comment here.

peace to RDM, guante, big jess, and knox.real people who have real identities.

anyone who thinks i was hating on our scene should probably read the whole article:  http://passionweiss.com/2012/0...

as for taking shots at my music as a means to discredit my statement, that won't work. i respect your right to anonymously post an opinion, but do the knowledge:i've worked hard to reach a place where a handful of people care about my opinion, whereas, y'all work hard to post comments about my opinion. you on that temp shit, we on that cement shit.

sidenote: don't blame the current. don't blame anyone but me for the songs i write.i write about the crap in my head, for better or for worse. that's how it works.if you're gonna start blaming the people who support, where do you draw the line? i'm afraid our music isn't contained to the twin cities anymore.crazy, right?

ok ok. back.if i was the gambling type, i'd wager that most of the twin town emcees and producers who feel confident and secure about themselves probably aren't too angry with my statements.just a hunch.

thanks for taking the time to read this.i endorse your hate and your love. as long as it's real, i'll take all of the above.-s

southside. 

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