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Weaver at the Loom is primarily one man, Dan Smith. It's a common name, but he creates lush new songs that are brilliant individually, and collectively tell a more incandescent story.
Concocted in his basement, his new album,
Before Now, Was Then, Dan blends sounds that conjure up what being in love should be: floating through a dream amongst a dark, blue sky. Ahead of Thursday's release show at Triple Rock, Gimme Noise caught up with Smith.
Gimme Noise: You created your new album in your basement.
What do you think of the parallels that are drawn to another certain
Minnesota artist that did the same thing and made it big?
Dan Smith: Are you talking about Adam Young from Owl City? I think we have
different sounds and different approaches musically, but we may have
similar work flows or lifestyles. I'm pretty reclusive as a person. I
hibernate a lot. It just makes sense to work isolated in a familiar
environment. From what I have heard through the grapevine, Adam Young is
somewhat similar. I think it all just comes down to comfort. Creativity
and performance can flow freely in a comfortable environment. For me
that is my own personal space, i.e. my basement studio. I wanted that
freedom and harmony to be present in the record. I figured setting up
shop in my own sanctuary type atmosphere would be a proactive decision.
Why do you feel you work best when self-producing and engineering? What are the pros/cons of doing everything yourself?
I
don't think self-producing is always best, or for everybody, but it
seems to work for me. It definitely depends how you interact musically.
Some people feed off of the moment and other musicians best. The
collective group becomes something far greater than the individuals on
their own. It is that magic "Beatles" phenomenon. I work kind of the
opposite. I will start with a general idea or vision for a song and it
is difficult for me to flesh it out in a group situation. It took me a
long time realize this. For some people the band dynamic is catalytic,
but for me it seems to be paralyzing. I miss the camaraderie off a band,
experiencing success and failure together. But I work best alone and I
think understanding yourself is the first step to truly actualizing your
potential as an artist.
There's a lot of ambient/dreamy qualities on Before Now, Was Then.
Was this your goal when writing. Was there anyone in particular that
you were listening to when writing that influenced this album?
It was definitely intentional. I naturally
gravitate towards that kind of sonic landscape sound. I don't think
there is anything more to it than why some people like the color blue
and some like green. It just resonates and feels natural to me.
Post-rock was really my first musical love, I think I will always take
some influence from it. Sigur Ros was basically a paradigm in my life,
as well as Radiohead. Those two are permanent influences, but I was
listening to a lot of things while recording the record: Elliott Smith,
M83, the Killers, the Beatles, a whole bunch of film composers, Mogwai, the Album Leaf, Magnet, and many more.
What's the meaning behind the name Before Now, Was Then?
There
was a large gap and many significant life changes that occurred between
the first record and this record. The title was my way of addressing
the change and progression. It is basically a trivial statement about
the past and present. It is meant to imply that the present and past are
equally significant, but that the past is forever gone but the present
is always...well...present, I guess. It is important not to let the past
determine your future. I wanted this record to be its own beast without
pressure to compete with the previous release. I felt it was also
metaphorical for the progression of my own life. I didn't feel like the
same version of the person who wrote the previous release. It just felt
dishonest to pretend and try to replicate it.
How has the music evolved since the first album? Did you feel the pressures of the sophomore slump?
I
didn't really feel the pressure of a sophomore slump, after all, it
wasn't like I was going up against a platinum record or anything. I was
just competing with an EP I wrote throughout college. But I did feel
pressure that the adult world was unavoidable and the cubical was
waiting to catch my fall. I needed the record to succeed and that was
definitely a source of stress and urgency. Musically, the record was
noticeably different than the previous release. My main focus was to
bring a new rhythmic energy to the sound. I wanted a complex rhythm
section to contrast the drawn out drones of the ambience. This all
formed the backdrop and pulse. On top, I wanted solid song structures. I
have always believed that a song should stand on its own. But it is
also fun to start with a strongly defined structure, flesh it out, and
then pull out the main supports and see what happens. If things go
right, you can kind of get the song to "float." That was the sound I
wanted to bring to the record.
What's your favorite track off of the new album?
They
all have moments that I find sentimental. But I think the last track
"Never Really Dying (But Going To Live)" is my personal favorite.
Although you mainly work by yourself, is there anyone local or
national that you would like to collaborate with?
Locally, I really admire Justin Vernon, Dan Wilson, Cloud Cult, and
Halloween, Alaska. But if we are talking internationally and about a
"dying wish" type scenario, it would be my dream to work with Thom Yorke
or Jonsi Birgisson.
You say your interests are love and progress. Can you elaborate on this?
I
don't want to put to much importance on the statement, since in reality
I think it is mainly a reflection of my aversion to social network bio
sections haha. But on the other hand, looking into it a little more, I
think it is an accurate statement about my interests. After doing my
undergrad in philosophy, I started to become very aware of my own
incurable ignorance. I always wanted to figure out everything when I was
younger, but I quickly realized that is impossible. Something about
love and progress always seemed to ring true for some reason though.
Something about those two things always seemed important.
What can we expect at the CD release show?
A good time. I don't want to put any preconceived expectations on it, that usually is the recipe for disaster. I just want everyone to enjoy themselves and maybe a Tallboy too? It's been quite a while since I played live. I'm excited to get back out in the world!
Weaver at the Loom. With Dan Mariska & the Boys Choir, Avian Sunrise, Lions, and Creators. 8 p.m., Thursday, May 10 at Triple Rock Social Club. Click here.
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