Mark Mallman on making Double Silhouette a $10 million album
|Photo by Wilson Webb|
He is constantly creating and reinventing himself. Gimme Noise met him at the Bad Waitress. He handed over the new album, which features a beautiful eerie green sci-fi painting with astronauts on a strange landscape and a spacecraft hovering. We talked about his release show during Sound Unseen 13. It's a perfect match, as Mallman is a also a cineaste, and works on soundtracks for movies and television.
Gimme Noise: Let's talk about the cover art a little bit.
Mark Mallman: Steve Summers, a fine artist, is my cousin. He and I had been working on albums since I was about 10 years old. We had a band called Fork City and we had an album Something Fun on Fork and a song called "Attack of the Hell Hamster." He has always drawn spaceships and monsters and nudes and portraits. He did the artwork for Between the Devil and Middle C, and Invincible Criminal. This time I wanted him to do a painting because he does a lot of paintings of fantasy. This fits all the themes of my record, so this was perfect.
What is the theme of this record?
Lyrically the theme is: how do you find yourself after you break up? There are my standard lyric themes -- hidden book titles in songs, there are references to Minneapolis, there's a lot of my traditional lyrical subject matter, and there's lightning and two people in space. Because I don't really live in reality, so I sort of tend to see the world through a lens. That's why there's always a lot of science fiction stuff in my songs.
I wonder if that lends toward your marathons, your experience of reality, how you experience time and space.
Yeah! I think I'm slowly beginning to realize the reason I do long songs and performance art is because I can get into my reality, get in touch with my personal reality, which is different. I'm just coming to grips with that. I thought it was mental illness, for a lot of years. Then I realized it wasn't. I stopped taking medication, started eating healthy and exercising. I realize I just see the world different. In the last couple of years I've been coming to not fighting it anymore. It's just my own version of the world.
And Marathon 4 was definitely about space, and space travel. In a certain way it was like Alphaville by Jean luc Godard. You know that movie?
I do! In that film -- its set in the future, in space, but it takes place in 1950's Paris. Since the character believes it, you believe it. He's on this spy mission in a city controlled by robots. Marathon 4 was definitely that! It was absurdist. It was definitive statement about technology gone awry, about a human being gone awry. It was a narrative, definitely about space. We were getting a lot of comments as this was viewed worldwide. People were asking, "Why does this seem like the Voyager Mission?"
We had a lot of cameras that were black and white. We were traveling a lot. We were referring to cars as aliens. We even took something like a space walk, which was me taking a keytar into the middle of the desert and we were visited by a UFO on the trip. It was very grounding. It had to be very focused. It wasn't like Marathon 3 where I had the freedom to lose my mind. I could not. In this I had to stay focused. I had to stay on point. I constantly had to deal with the equipment and it was a very tight space. In a way it was like a homemade spaceship, like a playtime. Although we were actually breaking tremendous new ground. It was a lot like landing on the moon and we let that happen. It was landing on the moon in that people are still feeling the impact of what we did. It will continue to happen as we develop Road Rogue further.
What are your next plans, in extension from that, or another marathon?
I feel very strongly about the album. I put a lot of time into it. I'm going to do a traditional few tours and shows behind it. It's getting good airplay and traction behind it. It's doing pretty well. I need to fulfill my obligations to this album. I'm fortunate to be in the position where I'm at the peak of my career. I have a lot of creative choices. I'm at a playful time, where I can be inventive and creative. I don't have any demands on me to constantly be on the road. So I can work on my creative projects, that I always keep under wraps. 2013 is going to really be some very new directions, even more than Marathon 4. Mainly now it's touring behind the record, and resting. Because I didn't expect to do Marathon 4 and the record at the same time. So now I'm in a chill-out place, because all summer was spent in a room.
What can people expect at the show at the Ritz Theater?
I'm going to be doing a few new songs off the record, some solo stuff I've never done. Coming back from L.A. and doing the Zombie show -- I'm really wanting to change everything. I've been doing the same thing for a long time. So this whole year's been about changing things in my life. I thought it would be fun to do a show that is a little different than my other shows. There won't be any stunts. It's just going to focus on the quality of songs and we'll have some Marathon 4 stuff. It's going to be about my record and some of my catalogue. It's going to be traditional. For me that's not normal. This is more like a Red Bedroom style record, which is 2002 era for me. I'm going there, kind of.
That gets at what's different about this record than your earlier material?
I've always been on a quest for fidelity. Making a record that sounds like a $10 million album. We did that, with the help of a lot of people who have faith in me, believe in what I do. Ed Ackerson mixed it. I recorded the piano all over. People donated time and helped. It's different because it's very singular in its message. It's very narrative. It's a very singular, emotionally driven piece. Where some of my albums are like the great '70s rock album. Every angle of retro rock. This one is modern and not addressing the history of music in ways that my other records have. If anything refers to music history, its "Dirty Dishes," - I was influenced by late '70s John Lennon. There is that overtone to some of it.
So there is a narrative running through the songs?
There's definitely a story. The end of "The Man with Music Instead of Blood" says, "If I start at the beginning, then the end would make no sense." That's why these songs are out of order. There's recurring lyrics, recurring sounds... the more you listen, the more you realize the songs exist together as a unit. But it's not like a rock opera. The last song, "Fight the Darkness with More Darkness" sums up the entirety of the whole album, but you don't get there. In a way you could probably play this record backwards and it would make more sense.