Future Bible Heroes: Cry while laughing, laugh while crying
For anyone who has seen the documentary Strange Powers, you know that she and Merritt are a musical package. You don't get one without the other, more often than not. In Future Bible Heroes, Gonson sings Merritt's characteristic witty-yet-melancholy lyrics as the bubbly melodies soar over Chris Ewen's electro-pop soundscapes. Gimme Noise caught up with Gonson just after she dropped her daughter off at preschool.
Gimme Noise: Future Bible Heroes has just released Partygoing. It's been a while.
Claudia Gonson: Yeah, 12 years.
What prompted you guys to start again?
I work, as you know, with Stephin in various bands. There's the Magnetic Fields, Future Bible Heroes, the 6ths, Gothic Archies, and all of his miscellaneous theater, film, and book projects. We just tend to rotate around. We don't like to let any project completely disappear. The release of 69 Love Songs in 1999 ended up sucking up a lot more of our energy in the first half of the new millenia than we had hoped. We put out a Future Bible Heroes record in 1998 (Memories of Love) and then we put out another one in 2002 (Eternal Youth). I think we would have put out another one in the later part, like 2006/2008 but because of Magnetic Fields and 69 Love Songs things just got [pause] delayed.
With all of your projects, did you ever expect the Magnetic Fields to take off before other bands? Which one did you expect people to grab on to?
Honestly, I didn't know. I really say that with honesty. I always knew that the Magnetic Fields was Stephin's personal project that was really reflective of him being the ringleader. But there could have been a song that he wrote with the 6ths that could have had a huge success on a TV show or a movie or an ad, or maybe a Future Bible Heroes song on a car commercial. You just never know. They're all Stephin's lyrics and melodies in the end. I was perfectly happy to give everyone equal opportunity for success.
Is there one group that you feel more heavily involved in?
No. Stephin Merritt. He's my product and my friend and my client. Whatever he does is my focus. Of course I feel very emotionally close to Magnetic Fields and Future Bible Heroes, but I actually feel very close to all of these bands. I feel especially close to Future Bible Heroes because I perform more centrally in it. I feel very close to Magnetic Fields because, in a way, that was the first group to start it all off, the one that gets the most attention now. So we really know that's our main brand, if you want to put it callously.
How long have you and Stephin known each other?
We met in 1983. [laughs] What year were you born?
[mumbles] after that...
We're celebrating 30 years! Crazy, huh? I started officially working with him, playing music, pretty much from the day we met, but I officially started wanting to work and be his manager when I was in college. So more like 1988 or 1987.
How does the music writing process work between the three of you?
Chris makes a lot of music soundscapes. In the old days he would mail, but now he emails them to Stephin who sometimes offers some suggestions, but usually just works with them to make melodic structures. He creates melody lines and lyrics over those instrumental tracks. Then one of us, either Stephin or me, works on vocals.
With songs like "Keep Your Children in a Coma," the lyrics are really witty and humorous. How do you think these songs can be clever and funny without being categorized as comedy?
Stephin always said from his experience with '80s electro-pop that funny lyrics work best with sadder melodies and sadder lyrics work best with upbeat melodies. I always felt that's how he manages to deliver that poignant, bittersweet humor he has. When he wrote 69 Love Songs, I thought that was the funniest record I had heard in my life. I was cracking up after every song, from "I Don't Believe in the Sun" or one of the ones that people might find sad. I was like, "these songs are freaking hilarious." So not that humor needs to be about comedy -- it's not a guy on a stage with a microphone making people laugh. Even that kind of comedy walks on a bit of a fine line of being sometimes about really tragic things and so on. People make jokes out of 9/11. The nature of humor is a very complex little machine. I guess my sense is that Stephin's humor is key to what makes Stephin work, but he works it very carefully so that you're laughing, but also kind of crying. Cry while laughing and laugh while crying.
How much creative control do you have over the lyrics? Let's say Stephin wrote something and you didn't feel comfortable singing it. Would you say something?
It's funny you should ask that question, because I've almost never said that to him in my life. He uses his own inner judgment about whether or not he wants to say something to the world. So he probably wouldn't write something that I find difficult to sing if he didn't already want for the world to hear it. It is true, though, I was originally slated to sign the song "Keep Your Children in a Coma" on the new record. I did do a vocal take on it, and then that night I did request that Stephin be the lead. Because even though everyone loves the song, and my child dances around to it and thinks it's hilarious and all her friends in her preschool dance around, they don't know what a coma is because they're like three years old, they just think it's really funny and they love it. It just occured to me that in 20 years, maybe she might use it against me. So I decided not to be the lead on this one, though i sing all over the song, there's a ton of backing vocals on it. Other than that, I have never said to him, "No, I will not sing this song, I don't approve." We tend to have similar ethics and morals.