Car accidents kill way more people than hip-hop

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Photo by Erik Hess
Here are some hip-hop fans enjoying themselves at Soundset 2013.

The Door Guy is a veteran of countless clubs around town. People say they've seen it all, but he's seen more. Write to him for everything from live advice to life advice.

Dear Door Guy: What the hell is up with violence and hip-hop? It seems like every time there's a rap concert, someone's getting shot, like at Epic the other weekend. Clubs should consider banning rap shows. What is wrong with people? --No Rap Here


You know, NRH, I was driving the other day and was dumbfounded once again to watch a car ahead of me on a pretty busy road opt to come to a full stop in front of me to make a left hand turn EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A CENTER TURN LANE. I have traveled a lot of places and it seems like people's driving matches their environment. On the East Coast, people drive in cramped little spaces and grab whatever they can. In L.A., people's driving is exactly like their careers -- they go as fast as they can whenever possible but then have to slam on the brakes because everyone's at a total halt and then they don't go anywhere for hours. But here in the Twin Cities, people drive like they're fucking staking a claim to their goddamned homestead.

People pull in front of you on red lights, drive below speed limit in the left hand lane on the interstate, leave ten feet of space between the car in front of them when stopped at a stop light, take selfies of themselves while driving, and DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE TURN LANES. We live in a major metropolitan area, not the Little House on the Prairie, Pa Ingalls. Your combination of feeling entitled to a zone around your car that extends approximately the size of a football field and passive-aggressive sense of "safety" is actually quite dangerous. Moreso than if you were content to, you know, respect the flow of traffic and feel okay with being one of thousands of buzzing little bees getting to their tiny place in the hive. Driving like you have no clue what is going on around you -- fellow drivers, bikers, pedestrians, whathaveyou -- causes accidents, and accidents kill people.

That's what's wrong with people. To answer the rest of your question: Car accidents kill way more people than hip-hop. But nobody is banning cars, or shitty drivers.

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Photo by Tony Nelson
Fans at T.I.'s show at Epic in April.

In fact, I'd go ahead and guess that you don't know a lot about hip-hop, especially here in Minnesota. We're currently living in an era when Picked to Click -- City Pages' yearly poll of local music experts -- is dominated by hip-hop musicians. And did you know, for example, that Minnesota hosts one of the largest hip-hop festivals in the world? Soundset draws tens of thousands of people from all over the world every year. It's an all-day outdoor festival organized and promoted by one of the most hugely successful independent record labels in the country, our own home-grown Rhymesayers. Does it come as a surprise to you, NRH, that people manage to enjoy a full day of hip-hop on multiple stages without anyone getting shot?

Plus, Toki Wright, Brother Ali, and countless other local rappers have spoken out against the gun violence and the larger cultural issues that plague society and contributed to Trayvon Martin's shortened life.


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Fudge
Fudge

The question is dumb, but the response isn't much better.  The old "car accidents kill more people than 'blank,' so maybe we should ban car accidents too" argument has been used for all sorts of arguments, most notably the "guns for everybody!" argument.  It's simple-minded and not at all helpful for gaining any insight on a serious issue.


Between the lines of the questioner's concern about hip-hop violence is a concern about black violence in general.  He's just using "hip-hop" as a stand-in for "black."  And he outs himself as ill-informed on hip-hop since hip-hop isn't just for black people, and there's a ton of non-violent hip-hop.  So he doesn't understand hip-hop and is possibly racist.  Either way, his concern about black violence carries some legitimacy and shouldn't be written off with some cliche about car accidents.

trex1434
trex1434

I worked 4 years as security / Bar tender at a local music venue.  Working there we hosted many different types of music and as a whole local hip hop acts were never a problem.  That being said we would occasionally have outside acts from Chicago based hip hop.  Every single time we hosted one of those shows we had incredibly high levels of violence.  The last show we hosted had 10+ fights and a guy smashed a cinder block of another guys head.  This has resulted in a policy of no hip hop acts outside of local artists.  I don't understand what the problem was but every time we had outside hip hop acts the violence would escalate resulting in the current policy.  No other music genre came even remotely close to their level of violence.

richardconklin
richardconklin

I still think its naive to think that hip hop concerts or more accurately labeled gangsta rap concerts are not more dangerous than any other concert you might attend.  To say otherwise would be a lie. 

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

Well Stated!  Thanks Door Guy

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